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Kaid1015
05-03-2014, 04:07 PM
1) Bloodlusted, PIS/CISless deathmatch in a neutral multiverse
2) Rank these beings from most to least powerful
3) God of Bruce Almighty joins the brawl; how does he do, and where does he rank?

Blackid
05-03-2014, 07:10 PM
Going with 2 first and that would help decide 1. Most powerful would be the Primal Monitor (the canvas as to all things created) AND the Beyonder (Marvel's God on Earth) however i'm edging Beyonder due to fewer feats. 3rd place is Mr. Mxy being a 5th Dimension being (less than the 11th dimension Beyonder and creator of all PM. Finally, MJJ comes in strong but still below Mr. Mxy due to still only being a 3rd dimensional mutant.

1. Going backwards I see MJJ seeing everyone destroyed thinking they are dead suddenly looks up and see's Mxy laughing at him saying how much fun he was having controlling everyone... suddenly looking up at PM staring down at him and realizing he's nothing to them as Beyonder drops the pen down on the PM to end the comic he's been writing.

get it?

3. BA God entering just confuses things more where BAG + Beyonder + PM all discuss what's going on in THEIR respective universes then they clean up and go back to their homes...

Matt the Manly
05-03-2014, 10:38 PM
The Primal Monitor has next to zero feats

MJJ is out of his league the moment one of these guys teleport him

Beyonder is Beyonder

However WF Mxy destroying and recreating the DC multiverse and prominsing to do it again "next Tuesday" should mean he should take this

big_adventure
05-04-2014, 09:34 AM
PR Beyonder is, well, beyond the others. Multiverse-busters poop their pants when the dude shows up.

Matt the Manly
05-04-2014, 10:57 AM
PR Beyonder is, well, beyond the others. Multiverse-busters poop their pants when the dude shows up.
Examples of "multiverse busters" pooping their pants?

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
05-04-2014, 11:36 AM
Examples of "multiverse busters" pooping their pants?

The entirety of Secret Wars, where even the Living Tribunal contracted out (to pre-retcon Molecule Man) to stop the guy, and even that failed.

Matt the Manly
05-04-2014, 11:41 AM
The entirety of Secret Wars, where even the Living Tribunal contracted out (to pre-retcon Molecule Man) to stop the guy, and even that failed.

And examples of the Living Tribunal actually doing something on a multiversal scale. as in not adventures in other universes, flat out affecting the multiverse with his power

big_adventure
05-04-2014, 01:36 PM
And examples of the Living Tribunal actually doing something on a multiversal scale. as in not adventures in other universes, flat out affecting the multiverse with his power

Infinity Gauntlet LOLnopeing, for one. Back when there was only one IG and it was quite badass, not like the later watered-down versions.

Slade1
05-08-2014, 01:45 PM
Infinity Gauntlet LOLnopeing, for one. Back when there was only one IG and it was quite badass, not like the later watered-down versions.

Didn't he only LOLnope it after the gauntlet was disassemled? He didn't do it when he faced Adam Warlock and said that the fight between them would wreck the universe. If he could have done it he would have right there and then.

big_adventure
05-09-2014, 02:03 AM
Didn't he only LOLnope it after the gauntlet was disassemled? He didn't do it when he faced Adam Warlock and said that the fight between them would wreck the universe. If he could have done it he would have right there and then.

The bolded part is kind of the definition of PIS there.

Slade1
05-09-2014, 05:50 AM
The bolded part is kind of the definition of PIS there.

While that is true, there is no basis to say that LT could have just willed the gauntlet from working.

big_adventure
05-09-2014, 07:45 AM
While that is true, there is no basis to say that LT could have just willed the gauntlet from working.

Eh, if one has the power to say "this don't work like that anymore", it is really hard to see why any specific circumstance interferes.

Slade1
05-09-2014, 08:46 AM
Eh, if one has the power to say "this don't work like that anymore", it is really hard to see why any specific circumstance interferes.

Yes, but there is a huge difference in power between the guantlet and the individual gems. Just because he can override the gems doesn't mean he can do the same to the gauntlet.

big_adventure
05-09-2014, 09:53 AM
Yes, but there is a huge difference in power between the guantlet and the individual gems. Just because he can override the gems doesn't mean he can do the same to the gauntlet.

Thing is, he didn't override the gems - he flat out overrode the gauntlet. It being assembled at that moment or not wouldn't seem to change anything. So I'm more inclined to believe him not canceling the thing when Warlock was wearing it is massive PIS (since the story would have ended right then and there - thus, the necessity of the plot induced some stupidity).

Slade1
05-09-2014, 11:01 AM
Thing is, he didn't override the gems - he flat out overrode the gauntlet. It being assembled at that moment or not wouldn't seem to change anything. So I'm more inclined to believe him not canceling the thing when Warlock was wearing it is massive PIS (since the story would have ended right then and there - thus, the necessity of the plot induced some stupidity).

He overrode the gems from forming the gauntlet; not when the gauntlet was assembled. The story was already pretty much over when Warlock had the gauntlet. LT stating that rule at that time would have made no difference to the story. Either it was Warlock backing down or LT overriding the gauntlet; it would have made no difference.

Beyonder
08-14-2014, 02:02 PM
PRE-Retcon Beyonder= Virtual Omnipotence.

Omega
08-14-2014, 05:40 PM
PRE-Retcon Beyonder= Virtual Omnipotence.

You stay out of this!

Beyonder
08-14-2014, 10:17 PM
You stay out of this!

>_> Do you dear oppose BEYONDER!!!

butterfingers158
08-14-2014, 10:50 PM
He proved his power by raising this thread from the dead

Omega
08-14-2014, 11:02 PM
>_> Do you dear oppose BEYONDER!!!

Even the awesome might of Omega must bow to the unquestionable omnipotence of... The Beyonder!

Beyonder
08-15-2014, 04:04 AM
He proved his power by raising this thread from the dead
Lol power of Omnipotence!

Beyonder
08-15-2014, 04:05 AM
Even the awesome might of Omega must bow to the unquestionable omnipotence of... The Beyonder!

U_U Omega you survived longer then I expected.........you are Nigh-Omnipotent!

Hiromi
08-15-2014, 04:46 AM
And examples of the Living Tribunal actually doing something on a multiversal scale. as in not adventures in other universes, flat out affecting the multiverse with his power

It's... kinda his job

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/2614984-2094150-lt2cm.jpg

Matt the Manly
08-15-2014, 06:48 AM
It's... kinda his job

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/2614984-2094150-lt2cm.jpg

Which must have been why he shut off Alt Universe Korvacs universe from the rest of the multiverse rather than destroy it. Must also be why despite leading a team of cosmics vs MC2 Galactus, he couldn't hurt him at all and was BFRd by Reed. He has quite a few low showings....and never again has shown the kind of power required to shut down the original IG

Hiromi
08-15-2014, 12:54 PM
Because isolating a universe off from the multiverse somehow isn't displaying multiversal power? Last Planet Standing was horribly written and didn't even seem to know what the LT actually is much less that Eternity goes crying to him when something happens that the living embodiment of the universe can't handle and so far as I'm concerned about as solid evidence as feats from World War Hulk and that's IF you forget it's an AU to begin with(more on that in a sec). Every Marvel cosmic has examples of PIS and SMvsFL, Galactus gets them all the time. The Tribunal's in an awkward place because of his status as a multiversal being, however feats from alt universes and what ifs are still alt verses and what ifs and so far as I know not considered canon nor are they usable feats on Rumbles.

Beyonder
08-15-2014, 11:22 PM
I don't think LT is Megaverse level.

Ite
08-15-2014, 11:57 PM
The Beyonder easily wins.