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zhris
05-05-2014, 12:16 PM
Taskmaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taskmaster) vs. Cassandra Cain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_Cain)!

Round 1: Unarmed, both combatants have no prior knowledge of each other.

Round 2: Unarmed, but with the full experience of Round 1's fight.

Blackid
05-05-2014, 12:35 PM
You've got a guy who can copy someone vs a girl who can sense and counteract a person. Taskmaster has to be in battle to be able to copy the opponents moves doesn't he? Whereas Cass Cain see's the person attack and precognitively recognizes how to react and attack differently. I'd say Taskmaster can know more of what to do but Cass can react and adapt at the bell.

Round 1 - Cassandra

Round 2 - Taskmaster

Matt the Manly
05-05-2014, 12:43 PM
You've got a guy who can copy someone vs a girl who can sense and counteract a person. Taskmaster has to be in battle to be able to copy the opponents moves doesn't he? Whereas Cass Cain see's the person attack and precognitively recognizes how to react and attack differently. I'd say Taskmaster can know more of what to do but Cass can react and adapt at the bell.

Round 1 - Cassandra

Round 2 - Taskmaster


You are kind of ignoring the fact that Taskmasters knowledge will avail him not at all against a girl who is that much faster, more skilled and can predict his body movements before he does

Matt the Manly
05-05-2014, 12:46 PM
Oh as for the fight, Cassandra Cain wins both rounds

Last I checked Taskmaster was only a low end bullet timer( and that too by burning himself out with the effort) vs a girl who smirks at multiple shots fired at point blank range

For Tasky to do anything at all, he will need to react to her.

Which he cant

Lets be generous and say he hangs in there for a few seconds with his "double time" thing

After that he gets his ass kicked

Blackid
05-05-2014, 12:50 PM
Oh as for the fight, Cassandra Cain wins both rounds

Last I checked Taskmaster was only a low end bullet timer( and that too by burning himself out with the effort) vs a girl who smirks at multiple shots fired at point blank range

For Tasky to do anything at all, he will need to react to her.

Which he cant

Lets be generous and say he hangs in there for a few seconds with his "double time" thing

After that he gets his ass kicked

Of course, I was thinking that thru and really saw Cass being too much to handle but put too much faith in copying in the 2nd round... forgot he's not really a bt.

The Chou Lives
05-05-2014, 12:54 PM
The best Taskmaster ever did was catch a bullet after seeing it done. And even then it was a "lucky break.:

Cass is fast to dodge bullets after they have been fired, while smirking about it.

Cass Cain, I think should win.

Holacik
05-05-2014, 01:23 PM
The best Taskmaster ever did was catch a bullet after seeing it done. And even then it was a "lucky break.:


Tasky dressed as Deadpool:
https://imageshack.com/i/n6tkvaj

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
05-05-2014, 01:32 PM
Tasky dressed as Deadpool:
https://imageshack.com/i/n6tkvaj

Honestly, that could just be aim-dodging/blocking as well, I mean you see her fire, then you see the bullets bounce off the chains.

Note: I'm not arguing for or against the feat, myself. That's just what I'm getting from it.

Holacik
05-05-2014, 01:46 PM
Honestly, that could just be aim-dodging/blocking as well, I mean you see her fire, then you see the bullets bounce off the chains.

Note: I'm not arguing for or against the feat, myself. That's just what I'm getting from it.

...He blocks it with a chain, he would have to time that perfectly.

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
05-05-2014, 02:23 PM
...He blocks it with a chain, he would have to time that perfectly.

Not necessarily.

But like I said, I'm not going to bother arguing the feat, because what I get from it, is different than what seems to be accepted. No muss, no fuss.

Holacik
05-05-2014, 02:34 PM
Not necessarily.

But like I said, I'm not going to bother arguing the feat, because what I get from it, is different than what seems to be accepted. No muss, no fuss.

Well, I'm not going to push it too hard either as he still needs more to prove BT, I just think it's better then the Bullet catch personally.

big_adventure
05-05-2014, 03:24 PM
Well, if we take the thread title seriously - who learns faster - than Tasky certainly is faster than Cass at learning moves he sees - given that his power is to assimilate them instantly.

In a fight, of course, he gets his ass solidly kicked by the much-faster girl who hits harder than he does.

Guy Smiley
05-06-2014, 02:45 AM
Taskmaster has to be in battle to be able to copy the opponents moves doesn't he?

Nope. As I understand it, he learned a lot of his moves from video footage of various heroes. Supposedly he's even managed to teach himself how to do various moves at extremely high speed by fast forwarding the tapes. (Though this apparently takes a ton of effort so can't be kept up for long and isn't anything like "Taskmaster has legit superspeed". Also: Still not fast enough to deal with Cass.)

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
05-06-2014, 10:16 AM
Nope. As I understand it, he learned a lot of his moves from video footage of various heroes. Supposedly he's even managed to teach himself how to do various moves at extremely high speed by fast forwarding the tapes. (Though this apparently takes a ton of effort so can't be kept up for long and isn't anything like "Taskmaster has legit superspeed". Also: Still not fast enough to deal with Cass.)

Yep, this is how he does it. Hell, when he first figured it out as a kid, he did an Olympic level dive into a swimming pool after watching it done, then almost drowned because he didn't know how to swim.

Unfortunately, he still can't get a read on/beat, Deadpool straight up.