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Nik Hasta
04-30-2014, 06:45 PM
Hey everyone.

Some of you might know me; I was a regular on the Rumbles board and on the Anime/Manga board for the last eight years or so. I have had the pleasure of calling many of the fine people on this board friends.

So! Imagine my surprise when, at around 2:00 AM UK time, I get a message from a friend telling me that the entire board had been wiped, our accounts deleted and the last eight years of our online interaction deleted. Suffice to say, I was profoundly unamused when I found that this was true.

We were not warned, we weren't even aware of the ugliness that prompted this response from the administrative staff, to me and my friends, CBR had been the same place it had always been. Sure, Rumbles could be a little tough to get used to but we'd just gotten a new crop of users who were learning to ropes and things were fine.

And then it all got wiped.

And I was left, in a slightly drunken state, to come up with a response to all this.

And... it seems I'm done.

This is a goodbye. I can't bring myself to tacitly endorse the hideously unfeeling actions by the administrative staff of just wiping out everything we had, RPGs we played, fights we debated, stories we wrote, respect threads we built and all the other stuff that goes with being an active member of Rumbles. It shows a callous attitude to what we had here and it makes me not want to spend my time on boards run by the same staff.

Yes, I'm not trying to claim that Jonah doesn't have the right to do whatever he wants with the board and everything on it. It's his place, he owns, he pays the bills, he makes all the big calls. But, I had thought that the administrators understood how important this place was to us and I would have thought that they understood that doing this kind of action should have been done with care but this turned out not to be the case.

For the last eight years, I have not spent a day without coming on CBR when I could. I made lasting friendships that dominated my adult life online and I learned a lot about debate, comics, manga and series that I would not know otherwise. This place was a blessing to me and I truly cherish the time I spent here. Even when it was frustrating or annoying or stupid or I didn't win an argument, I would still return because it was an online home to me.

I think the thing that upsets me most is that we weren't warned. There was no preparation for this, it just happened.

Many of my friends will remain. Heck, maybe in the sobering light of the day, I'll come crawling back too but I don't think that this is very likely. This place has changed. The place we called home has, not to be too dramatic, kind of betrayed us. Eight years, just wiped away.

And so, I take my leave.

I thank everyone here for their friendship and interaction, this was a wonderful place to be and there were many great memories to be had.

I thank the Rumbles Moderator Team, many of whom I am honoured to call friends, for being fair, just and infinitely patient with us as we thrashed out the fine points of character vs character battles.

Thank you CBR, you were fun.

I hope that new people find as much joy and satisfaction in this place as I did and that the new ethos of the Admin Staff doesn't make for a place devoid of fun.

Farewell and good luck to all.

--- Nik Hasta

The MunchKING
04-30-2014, 06:47 PM
*pours one out for Nik*

Sharpandpointies
04-30-2014, 06:51 PM
You'll be sorely missed, Nik. I'll be seeing you out there, Pirate King.

Hazard
04-30-2014, 06:52 PM
Like I said on the other thread, sad to see you go.

Also, if there's stuff you really, really want to save it's going to be at this site for the next two weeks:
oldforums.comicbookresources.com

T51R
04-30-2014, 06:53 PM
Seeya Nik, good to have shared the last eight years with you. See you out there!

Estrecca
04-30-2014, 06:55 PM
A nasty loss, this one.

Monstrous Bird of Qin, Ou Ki
04-30-2014, 06:56 PM
I know we've had our differences, but... take care, Nik.

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Guy1
04-30-2014, 07:03 PM
Goodbye my friend. May our paths cross again in the future.

Legato
04-30-2014, 07:05 PM
God speed to ya Nik.

Melchior
04-30-2014, 07:14 PM
It was always nice seeing you around all these years. You'll be missed ye ol' pirate.

Sub-Zero MKA
04-30-2014, 07:25 PM
Fair well, my friend. You'll be sorely missed around here. See you around on RPoL.

Eternal Torment
04-30-2014, 07:33 PM
You're a great guy, Nik. See you, and have a good one, always.

Postmania
04-30-2014, 07:42 PM
Sad to see ya go Nik. May the wind be at your back.

Iron_Twister
04-30-2014, 08:12 PM
Thank you Nik, you are always an awesome pirate to share favorite series with.

You will be missed and I hope to hear from you in other places in the sea that is the internet.

Wolvie616
04-30-2014, 08:19 PM
*21 gun salute*

Froggy
04-30-2014, 08:26 PM
Well I'm glad I got to know you dude

Peace out and I hope I catch you around sometime

Dalak
04-30-2014, 08:33 PM
It was nice knowing you Nik . . .

I guess I'll never find out if you were really a Ninja or not :p

JCAll
04-30-2014, 10:08 PM
It always feels so bleak when CBR burns down. Like a part of all of us go with it and all we can do is scramble to save the pieces. I'm sorry to see you go, but good luck in the future. I hope we'll all still be here if you ever want to come back.

The Chou Lives
04-30-2014, 10:22 PM
Farewell Nik, you are a awesome guy. :Salute.:

Dawn Quixotic
04-30-2014, 11:11 PM
Might as well put my own little monologue here.

Stuff like this is bad.
Nik isn't the kind of guy to throw a fit.
He's not the type to just get mad about something changing and now it sucks.

It really is insensitive.
I see some people upset about certain subforums not being added in again.

This isn't just deleting posts.
When Miburo told me, I figured it was just that.
It's more, it's hurting whole communities.

I really don't want to whine or play mental illness cards but having depression/anxiety/borderline disorder, huge changes like this can be pretty disturbing.
It's not like I can't cope or whatever, but you'd think they'd be a bit more sensitive to the needs of the community and its good members, how much many of us value and depend on things here...
And to change that so suddenly, with no real justification for some of the changes? That's really bad.

Because get this. It's going to happen again. You might have a zero tolerance policy, but they'll still make the posts, and you will have to delete them. It might be some guy who has never made posts here and his first thing is to go into a thread and starting insulting/threatening everyone. So you delete his posts, ban him, no big. Isn't that what we had before?

But now you can't get back all the good things you have taken away.

And yeah, we can say you can talk about the same things elsewhere on site, but it's different when the forum develops a community in its little space and that space is just destroyed.
I visited three forums here... Rumbles, Anime/Manga, and sometimes Wrestling. Two of those are gone completely and the other is no longer allowed an attached chat thread.
Hopefully these will be allowed to come back.

But now I find myself less inclined to come back here.

And again. This isn't rage quitting. This isn't me loudly ranting about how I won't come back out of some sense of drama (and mind you, I'm not even saying I'm leaving like Nik is). I'm just pointing out that for me, CBR is now Dairy Queen without the ice cream. Sure it still has really good hot good, but with my main reason for coming here irrevocably changed and possibly completely lost, I don't quite feel so excited about coming here. It makes me feel really lost.

So if anyone in charge or who has the ear of someone in charge sees this... rethink some things.
This just happened today so obviously not everything is settled and set in stone.
Rethink the organization of the subforums and some things like that. Those seem like some really minor, simple things, (and they are), but I think they'd go a long way for making the transition easier for a lot of people here.

Postmania
04-30-2014, 11:17 PM
The transition really was sudden. I've been drifting away from CBR for a while now, but to go in and see everything gone and the accounts deleted, well, I liked some of that stuff. I liked having our threads in our forums. Just seeing it change in one day, quite unsettling.

Dark Soul # 7
05-01-2014, 12:57 AM
Good bye Nik. The forums will be poorer without you.

GMiller
05-01-2014, 01:02 AM
Might as well put my own little monologue here.

Stuff like this is bad.
Nik isn't the kind of guy to throw a fit.
He's not the type to just get mad about something changing and now it sucks.

It really is insensitive.
I see some people upset about certain subforums not being added in again.

This isn't just deleting posts.
When Miburo told me, I figured it was just that.
It's more, it's hurting whole communities.

I really don't want to whine or play mental illness cards but having depression/anxiety/borderline disorder, huge changes like this can be pretty disturbing.
It's not like I can't cope or whatever, but you'd think they'd be a bit more sensitive to the needs of the community and its good members, how much many of us value and depend on things here...
And to change that so suddenly, with no real justification for some of the changes? That's really bad.

Because get this. It's going to happen again. You might have a zero tolerance policy, but they'll still make the posts, and you will have to delete them. It might be some guy who has never made posts here and his first thing is to go into a thread and starting insulting/threatening everyone. So you delete his posts, ban him, no big. Isn't that what we had before?

But now you can't get back all the good things you have taken away.

And yeah, we can say you can talk about the same things elsewhere on site, but it's different when the forum develops a community in its little space and that space is just destroyed.
I visited three forums here... Rumbles, Anime/Manga, and sometimes Wrestling. Two of those are gone completely and the other is no longer allowed an attached chat thread.
Hopefully these will be allowed to come back.

But now I find myself less inclined to come back here.

And again. This isn't rage quitting. This isn't me loudly ranting about how I won't come back out of some sense of drama (and mind you, I'm not even saying I'm leaving like Nik is). I'm just pointing out that for me, CBR is now Dairy Queen without the ice cream. Sure it still has really good hot good, but with my main reason for coming here irrevocably changed and possibly completely lost, I don't quite feel so excited about coming here. It makes me feel really lost.

So if anyone in charge or who has the ear of someone in charge sees this... rethink some things.
This just happened today so obviously not everything is settled and set in stone.
Rethink the organization of the subforums and some things like that. Those seem like some really minor, simple things, (and they are), but I think they'd go a long way for making the transition easier for a lot of people here.

Very well thought out post...I do agree...I also like that we have two different thread about this topic..One is for positive comments on the change, and the other is about negatvie feedback....Great idea, however, the negative one will be closed in 23 hours or so...

Also, i'm sorry to see you leave, Nik.....

Motown Rage
05-01-2014, 01:08 AM
Hey everyone.

Some of you might know me; I was a regular on the Rumbles board and on the Anime/Manga board for the last eight years or so. I have had the pleasure of calling many of the fine people on this board friends.

So! Imagine my surprise when, at around 2:00 AM UK time, I get a message from a friend telling me that the entire board had been wiped, our accounts deleted and the last eight years of our online interaction deleted. Suffice to say, I was profoundly unamused when I found that this was true.

We were not warned, we weren't even aware of the ugliness that prompted this response from the administrative staff, to me and my friends, CBR had been the same place it had always been. Sure, Rumbles could be a little tough to get used to but we'd just gotten a new crop of users who were learning to ropes and things were fine.

And then it all got wiped.

And I was left, in a slightly drunken state, to come up with a response to all this.

And... it seems I'm done.

This is a goodbye. I can't bring myself to tacitly endorse the hideously unfeeling actions by the administrative staff of just wiping out everything we had, RPGs we played, fights we debated, stories we wrote, respect threads we built and all the other stuff that goes with being an active member of Rumbles. It shows a callous attitude to what we had here and it makes me not want to spend my time on boards run by the same staff.

Yes, I'm not trying to claim that Jonah doesn't have the right to do whatever he wants with the board and everything on it. It's his place, he owns, he pays the bills, he makes all the big calls. But, I had thought that the administrators understood how important this place was to us and I would have thought that they understood that doing this kind of action should have been done with care but this turned out not to be the case.

For the last eight years, I have not spent a day without coming on CBR when I could. I made lasting friendships that dominated my adult life online and I learned a lot about debate, comics, manga and series that I would not know otherwise. This place was a blessing to me and I truly cherish the time I spent here. Even when it was frustrating or annoying or stupid or I didn't win an argument, I would still return because it was an online home to me.

I think the thing that upsets me most is that we weren't warned. There was no preparation for this, it just happened.

Many of my friends will remain. Heck, maybe in the sobering light of the day, I'll come crawling back too but I don't think that this is very likely. This place has changed. The place we called home has, not to be too dramatic, kind of betrayed us. Eight years, just wiped away.

And so, I take my leave.

I thank everyone here for their friendship and interaction, this was a wonderful place to be and there were many great memories to be had.

I thank the Rumbles Moderator Team, many of whom I am honoured to call friends, for being fair, just and infinitely patient with us as we thrashed out the fine points of character vs character battles.

Thank you CBR, you were fun.

I hope that new people find as much joy and satisfaction in this place as I did and that the new ethos of the Admin Staff doesn't make for a place devoid of fun.

Farewell and good luck to all.

--- Nik Hasta


I never had any interaction with Nik, but that was a well thought out and worded goodbye, wishing Nik the best of luck in the future

AJ Valliant
05-01-2014, 03:17 AM
Rumbles was a special place on this board. We self policed a level of civility and culture that no one can externally mandate. An internet culture is such a fragile thing and the one that formed up there organically was rare and genuine. To see it all wiped in reactionary move to a genuinely reprehensible, but narrow, band of transgressors is heart breaking. Nik, you were always fun to talk to and I enjoyed the hell out of Underbelly. I'm sure I'll see Sharp round and about town, the rest of the rumblers I got to know: take care folks, you legitimately improved most days but once the cops come the party is over.

AJ Valliant
05-01-2014, 03:24 AM
And just to be clear: When I say that I will see the Moderator Sharpandpointies "around town" that is an expectation of knocking back a few and pleasant conversation, not a declaration of vendetta. I know we are on red alert around here.

butterfingers158
05-01-2014, 03:27 AM
To Nik, and all those who are choosing to leave CBR

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--JGedZDMI--/mfxzbhxkwyzn7vyijjag.jpg

You will be missed

PapaShogun
05-01-2014, 03:41 AM
Never knew you, but I feel for you. Good luck wherever you go.

Sharpandpointies
05-01-2014, 04:30 AM
And just to be clear: When I say that I will see the Moderator Sharpandpointies "around town" that is an expectation of knocking back a few and pleasant conversation, not a declaration of vendetta. I know we are on red alert around here.

I'll be ready for you, AJ.

*looks around, shifty-eyed*

Tanrage
05-01-2014, 05:48 AM
I wouldn't worry, we all remain terrified of your wife! :p

Robotech Master
05-01-2014, 11:17 AM
Sad to see you go Nik.

I understand though, and may end up joining you. I feel pretty much the same way.

Over the years I did, I think 3, Dark Tournaments on the Rumbles forum, then I bought a house and I've been busy fixing things up and getting things settled, so I never got around to a fourth. Thought maybe I could do another one, but now I'm not sure its worth it.

Good luck in all you do Nik.

mcgaffer
05-01-2014, 12:20 PM
I'm sorry to see you go Nik, thank you for being a friend and don't worry your armada and more importantly your supply of rum will be in good hands.

*Raises a glass and hopefully not for the last time tip's it in Nik's general direction*

Cleric of Hell's Brigade
05-01-2014, 12:31 PM
Have a good one Nik. Hope to see you again sometime. Until then, take care man.

Den
05-01-2014, 02:47 PM
While it doesn't bother me like it does some, it certainly is a shock and I can respect folks who decide this is no longer for them.
Better days to you

wjowski
05-01-2014, 04:44 PM
This is...unfortunate. I know I'm just random poster popping into Rumbles now and then but still, take care.

Tami
05-01-2014, 05:51 PM
I don't want to say goodby. :(

Shade
05-01-2014, 06:52 PM
This really isn't my area but I just have to say if you take all your time and investment over the last 8 years and multiply it by 100 you won't come close to the time, effort, energy and love Jonah and Staff have put in. People seem to either forget or not care that this was a loss for him as well. He's built all this FOR you and charges nothing.

Leave if it makes you happy for sure. Just please, everyone stop acting like this was some callous, uncaring act against you. I guarantee you the pain and stress was greater for the guy who put himself into giving you this place.

Guy Smiley
05-01-2014, 07:34 PM
Man, Nik, I hate to see you go.

When I first found my way to the site a few years ago, my brain started compiling a sort of "who's who" of people I saw a lot of. Some guys I could fit into various categories. "People who know what they're talking about" was an important one, and I fit you into that category pretty darn quickly.

Good luck in all your future endeavors! Maybe we'll see you around again some day?