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FennerMachine
06-01-2014, 01:53 PM
1. Weakest versions
2. Strongest versions
3. Composite without special equipment such as cosmic cubes, IG etc.

a. Arena fights
b. Fight for control of Earth, neither wants to destroy earth completely
c. Other Earth based heroes and villains get involved to try to mitigate the mess they are making

Anarchist
06-01-2014, 02:07 PM
1. *thinks of Thanoscopter* Apo might actually have a chance
2. Apo gets curb-stomped
3. Apo gets curb-stomped

No matter if A, B or C.

Dark Soul # 7
06-01-2014, 02:10 PM
Weakest versions would be the live action versions of both since they have the fewest feats. Apocalypse wins that one by trapping Thanos inside a giant pyramid while Thanos smirks at the camera.

In all the other fight Thanos beats the living crap out of Apocalypse with a minimum of effort. Then he probably steals all of Apocalypse's tech and stuff. Just to be a dick.

heretic
06-01-2014, 03:34 PM
1. Weakest versionsA) Smart money is on Thanos.
B) Ditto, although home field advantage could mean an upset is even more likely.
C) BM&K if Reed or Strange are having an extremely good day.

2. Strongest versionsA) Stompage.
B) More Stompage
C) Stompage w/ Bigger Body Count

3. Composite without special equipment such as cosmic cubes, IG etc.A) Stompage.
B) More Stompage
C) Stompage w/ Bigger Body Count

master of read
06-01-2014, 08:32 PM
poccy wonders why the universe hates him.

wjowski
06-01-2014, 08:37 PM
...This is going to be painful.

The Watcher
06-01-2014, 09:00 PM
Just a friendly reminder to exercise more judgement on phrasing while stating someone will be utterly and easily defeated.

King of Asgard
06-02-2014, 02:27 AM
The satisfaction that Thanos would gain from victory would quickly dissipate when he remembers how the NYPD arrested him that time.

FennerMachine
06-02-2014, 02:24 PM
From memory so please correct: Apocalypse in 90's animated X-Men was said to be the personification of evil and IF destroyed would just be replaced by something else. Not saying that if Thanos destroys him he will just face the equivalent until defeated by never ending 'Apocalypse's' but he is very powerful. He was effectively immortal compared to the X-Men and other mutants. He was once removed from time/space by a collection of 12 psychics and came back (eventually).
Is Thanos THAT much more powerful?
What might make it a fairer rumble without it being a potential stomp the other way?

master of read
06-02-2014, 03:33 PM
From memory so please correct: Apocalypse in 90's animated X-Men was said to be the personification of evil and IF destroyed would just be replaced by something else. Not saying that if Thanos destroys him he will just face the equivalent until defeated by never ending 'Apocalypse's' but he is very powerful. He was effectively immortal compared to the X-Men and other mutants. He was once removed from time/space by a collection of 12 psychics and came back (eventually).
Is Thanos THAT much more powerful?
What might make it a fairer rumble without it being a potential stomp the other way?

that's more of just what is said about poccy than actually what he is. there is really nothing to suggest that animated poccy is really the personification of evil. as for the psychics feats, he really needed a lot of prep and outside help from other mutants to pull it off.

thanos, OTOH, is what poccy wishes he was. without prep, thanos is a 100+ brick with complete control over his molecular structure, extremely high end TP powers/resistance, powerfully high durability, and matter control. his strength is high enough that he can shatter planets as a side effects of his blows, beat the silver surfer nearly to death and treats high end bricks like hulk, thor, drax the destroyer, and the thing like total and complete jokes.

with prep, thanos has become god on at least 2 different times. the first time, he wiped out half of the total population of the entire universe with a gesture.

really, thanos can pretty much do whatever poccy can do but better.

Surtur
06-02-2014, 05:01 PM
He wasn't the personification of evil, that is a writing error. He was the personification of awesome and of trolling angel. Completely different.

master of read
06-02-2014, 05:03 PM
He wasn't the personification of evil, that is a writing error. He was the personification of awesome and of trolling angel. Completely different.

this. so much this.

Jmacq1
06-03-2014, 10:45 AM
Poccy's only got a chance in the "weakest (Thanoscopter!) vs. weakest (First appearance Poccy?)" scenario, and a SMALL outside chance of "if the heroes get involved" simply because the heroes would consider Thanos the far greater threat than Apocalypse and thus focus their efforts on him...though if Thanos is focused on destroying Apocalypse it's still a Thanos-stomp.

FennerMachine
06-03-2014, 12:00 PM
Hi Jmacq1.
In scenario 'c' heroes AND villains get involved. With your suggestion that Thanos would be the greater threat, would that favour Apocalypse?
Regardless, I think the consensus of feats massively favours Thanos regardless.

byc
06-03-2014, 12:17 PM
There can be no scenario where Apocalypse is a greater threat than Thanos other than by extremely slanted writing.

Like if Apocalypse wakes up in the next minute, all existence is erased.

Thanos takes on beings far more powerful than Apocalypse. Thanos probably only needs 1 punch or 1 energy blast to take out Apocalypse. One of the stronger version of Apocalypse, the Age of Apocalypse version, died when Magneto split him about using his magnetism. Thanos can KO Silver Surfer in one (or a few) hits. Surfer is way tougher than Apocalypse.

FennerMachine
06-03-2014, 12:48 PM
Hi byc.
Exactly!
Thanos being the greater threat would mean that the Earth based heroes AND villains would side with Apocalypse.

Anarchist
06-03-2014, 01:17 PM
Or they could just casually knock down Apo first (there are quite a few heroes on Earth capable of this, especially when they are all together) and then concentrate on Thanos.

master of read
06-03-2014, 01:34 PM
Or they could just casually knock down Apo first (there are quite a few heroes on Earth capable of this, especially when they are all together) and then concentrate on Thanos.

and even then, its a tall order for them

Dark Soul # 7
06-03-2014, 01:57 PM
and even then, its a tall order for them
Thanos might be embarrassed when his band of hanger on losers (aka the Black Order) gets their asses kicked by earth heroes so he quietly buggers off before he can be associated with them.

...no. I did not care for the Black Order. I should stop mocking them in debate threads though. Starting now.

Jmacq1
06-03-2014, 03:09 PM
Hi byc.
Exactly!
Thanos being the greater threat would mean that the Earth based heroes AND villains would side with Apocalypse.

Being against Thanos doesn't mean being with Apocalypse. As noted, the heroes might well deal with Apocalypse on their way to dealing with Thanos.

Bottom line is this: Thanos is a "cosmic" tier character who regularly beats the crap out of Heralds of Galactus (and the most powerful Herald, to boot)...Apocalypse isn't.

master of read
06-03-2014, 04:22 PM
Thanos might be embarrassed when his band of hanger on losers (aka the Black Order) gets their asses kicked by earth heroes so he quietly buggers off before he can be associated with them.

...no. I did not care for the Black Order. I should stop mocking them in debate threads though. Starting now.

why do you think i didnt include them? i know fail when i see it.