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Tandaemonium
06-03-2014, 01:40 PM
Wrath of God/Vengeance of God vs. Voice of God. Begin.

IMO, all Preacher has to do is talk and The Spectre will do what he says.

Anarchist
06-03-2014, 01:43 PM
Well the Preacher-God is not the Presence, so no, that probably won't work.

Tandaemonium
06-03-2014, 01:56 PM
Even if they're not, then the Presence would fall under the purview of God!Actual so The Spectre would still do what he says.

wjowski
06-03-2014, 03:23 PM
Not really. Preacher-verse God was, quite honestly, a bitch who would've gotten his backside thoroughly obliterated by any number of DC-verse entities considerably lower on the cosmic totem poll than the Spectre. Therefore it's doubtful his Voice acting through an even lesser vessel would do much to Spectre.

abmccray
06-04-2014, 06:06 AM
While God was so scared of the Word of God that he gave up his omnipotence to run and hide, it has no feats on a being of that level, so we can't really handwave that kind of power.

Slade1
06-04-2014, 06:10 AM
The hihgest being the Voice worked on was Saint of Killers. Spectre would destroy SoK.

Pendaran
06-04-2014, 07:15 AM
Any Spectre but Nu, who I haven't really seen anything from, could just think at Custer and kill/transmute/whatever him anyway.

Carabas
06-04-2014, 07:26 AM
The hihgest being the Voice worked on was Saint of Killers. Spectre would destroy SoK.The Saint and the Spectre are pretty much the same entity. They seem to have the same kind of powerlevel too, even if they use it in vastly different ways.

Slade1
06-04-2014, 07:29 AM
The Saint and the Spectre are pretty much the same entity. They seem to have the same kind of powerlevel too, even if they use it in vastly different ways.

Every version of the Spectre (except Nu as I don't know his feats) is MUCH more powerful than the SoK. It's not even close really.

Carabas
06-04-2014, 07:31 AM
Not really. Preacher-verse God was, quite honestly, a bitch who would've gotten his backside thoroughly obliterated by any number of DC-verse entities considerably lower on the cosmic totem poll than the Spectre. Therefore it's doubtful his Voice acting through an even lesser vessel would do much to Spectre.
He's the literal biblical God, that gives him a ton of feats. Omnipotence, omniscience, created the creation...

Jesse Custer by the way does not use the voice of God, that's just what some people call it. It's the power of Genesis, a completely different kind of entity entirely.

Carabas
06-04-2014, 07:33 AM
Every version of the Spectre (except Nu as I don't know his feats) is MUCH more powerful than the SoK. It's not even close really.
The Saint Of Killers can kill absolutely everything pretty much at will, including God and the devil. That's hard to beat. I think the Spectre would at least have to get into a fight for those two instead of just point and click, dead.

Slade1
06-04-2014, 08:06 AM
The Saint Of Killers can kill absolutely everything pretty much at will, including God and the devil. That's hard to beat. I think the Spectre would at least have to get into a fight for those two instead of just point and click, dead.

We go by feats here. SoK's God's and the Devil's feats are pale in comparison to the Spectre's.

Carabas
06-04-2014, 09:28 AM
We go by feats here. SoK's God's and the Devil's feats are pale in comparison to the Spectre's.
Examples would be nice.
The Spectre has died. The Saint hasn't. Well, except for that first time before he became the Saint.

Slade1
06-04-2014, 09:35 AM
Examples would be nice.
The Spectre has died. The Saint hasn't. Well, except for that first time before he became the Saint.

Let's see...Spectre has held two universes apart, fought evenly with the Pre-Crisis Anti-monitor and Zero-Hour Parallax, defeated/killed all kinds of people like the Wizard Shazam, Nabu Dr. Fate, Phantom Stranger, Captain Marvel powered by all magic users, fought Michael the Archangel (albeit in a losing effort) etc.

The Saint has no feats that are even remotley close to the above. Also, about the dieing part, Jimmy Olsen hasn't died but Superman has, does that make Jimmy Olsen more powerful than Superman?

Carabas
06-04-2014, 09:39 AM
Let's see...Spectre has held two universes apart, fought evenly with the Pre-Crisis Anti-monitor and Zero-Hour Parallax, defeated/killed all kinds of people like the Wizard Shazam, Nabu Dr. Fate, Phantom Stranger, Captain Marvel powered by all magic users, fought Michael the Archangel (albeit in a losing effort) etc.

The Saint has no feats that are even remotley close to the above. Also, about the dieing part, Jimmy Olsen hasn't died but Superman has, does that make Jimmy Olsen more powerful than Superman?
Considering that the Saint could just shoot the Anti-Monitor and Parallax dead with one bullet kinda makes me not impressed with the Spectre's lethality.

Slade1
06-04-2014, 09:45 AM
Considering that the Saint could just shoot the Anti-Monitor and Parallax dead with one bullet kinda makes me not impressed with the Spectre's lethality.

No he could not. He would need feats to show that he can kill beings of that power level. He shot a Devil that has no feats and a God that was off of his throne and virtually featless. So no, AM and Parallax would just vaporize SoK easily.

Surtur
06-04-2014, 11:15 AM
He's the literal biblical God, that gives him a ton of feats. Omnipotence, omniscience, created the creation...

If he's omnipotent why did he need to rest? Bible God took a day to rest after creating stuff, how was he fatigued at all? He should of had infinite stamina. There is already a flaw right there. Ignoring the fact that any character only gets the feats they show. It's just like any god from any myth, whether it Christian or Greek, etc. They kind of need to live up to the hype, on panel, so to speak. Just like Thor or Zeus don't get feats from the myths, etc.

abmccray
06-04-2014, 01:26 PM
I think I can illustrate this with examples.

The devil in 'Dragon Ball' gets old, has weak reality warping power, can be killed by a really strong kid ramming through his stomach, and ends up being weaker than even Yamcha, in retrospect.

The devil in 'Lucifer' plays around with multiversal energies.

Every 'God' and "Satan' are not the same level of competence, dependent on the source.

If we take Preacher's narration at it's word, and grant that God Biblical feats, it is a single universe creator, less powerful than Michael or Lucifer in 'Lucifer.' Narration says that being on his throne granted him omnipotence, however, since it willingly gave up said omnipotence in the story because it was scared of a being being born that was outside of its control (how does that work if you're omnipotent?), we never got to see what The Word would even do to that powerful of a God (note that he wasn't scared of The Word, he was scared of Genesis, anyway).

The Saint could kill a non-feated Devil and a non-omnipotent God - but since this God had feats less than Spectre, and the Saint couldn't kill him until he was off his throne, he's not going to be able to kill him.

Anarchist
06-04-2014, 01:48 PM
The devil in 'Dragon Ball' gets old, has weak reality warping power, can be killed by a really strong kid ramming through his stomach, and ends up being weaker than even Yamcha, in retrospect.
Eh, King Piccolo is not really what I would use as a *Devil*-counterpart.
King Yemma is much more close to that and even he doesn't quite fit it.

Surtur
06-04-2014, 02:03 PM
Eh, King Piccolo is not really what I would use as a *Devil*-counterpart.
King Yemma is much more close to that and even he doesn't quite fit it.

I would say at one time King Piccolo WAS more or less the devil. In Dragonball anyways. Since, Kami was called "God" more then once, and King Piccolo is his evil side or something like that. I don't see King Yemma as a devil counterpart. I'm pretty sure it was said he can decide where spirits go and hell was not the only option. So more like a grim reaper then Satan really. Or rather, the DBZ version of "Death".

Pendaran
06-04-2014, 03:48 PM
The Saint Of Killers can kill absolutely everything pretty much at will, including God and the devil. That's hard to beat. I think the Spectre would at least have to get into a fight for those two instead of just point and click, dead.

THe Spectre has a variety of powers that activate by him thinking them so. Why is Jesse getting to speak before the Spectre obliterates/transmutes/whatever other thing him with a thought?

abmccray
06-04-2014, 04:23 PM
Eh, King Piccolo is not really what I would use as a *Devil*-counterpart.
King Yemma is much more close to that and even he doesn't quite fit it.

Kami MEANS God in Japanese. "Sama" is a highly respectful term. The guy's name was literally "god, sir."
Daimao means "Demon King." Piccolo's name was "Musical Instrument Demon King" and was the opposite to "God Sir."

In regular old Dragon Ball, Kamisama was literally God, and Piccolo Damaio literally the Devil. It just got retconned later on to "yeah, he was God, but every planet gets assigned a god by ACTUAL gods" when alien stuff came into play.

Enma/Emma/Yemma is based on Yama in Chinese mythology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yama_(Buddhism_and_Chinese_mythology)

Yeoman
06-04-2014, 04:32 PM
Kami MEANS God in Japanese. "Sama" is a highly respectful term. The guy's name was literally "god, sir."
Daimao means "Demon King." Piccolo's name was "Musical Instrument Demon King" and was the opposite to "God Sir."

In regular old Dragon Ball, Kamisama was literally God, and Piccolo Damaio literally the Devil. It just got retconned later on to "yeah, he was God, but every planet gets assigned a god by ACTUAL gods" when alien stuff came into play.

Dr. Gero: That... is significantly more mundane.

Piccolo: Tell me about it.

Surtur
06-04-2014, 05:41 PM
I don't even get why people talk about him killing God..since he was off his throne and not at full power. Wasn't..wasn't this like, a plot point? Feats for God off his throne? He teleport galaxies in that form? Destroy them? Tell me he did something other then get shot by some dude.

Carabas
06-05-2014, 05:12 AM
We go by feats here.
Splendid idea then, matching up the guy who was in one story against the guy who was in 7 decades of stories. The Spectre is always going to win, regardles of actual power levels. It's a rigged game.

Slade1
06-05-2014, 05:48 AM
Splendid idea then, matching up the guy who was in one story against the guy who was in 7 decades of stories. The Spectre is always going to win, regardles of actual power levels. It's a rigged game.

Them's the breaks. Some charcters are just not good for matches on Rumbles. Having said that, SoK and Jesse do have feats, they just have to pitted agaisnt someone on their own power level.

abmccray
06-05-2014, 06:01 AM
Splendid idea then, matching up the guy who was in one story against the guy who was in 7 decades of stories. The Spectre is always going to win, regardles of actual power levels. It's a rigged game.

From what I understand, the Rumbles rules were set up mostly centered around long term comic characters, and set up in a way where favoritism wouldn't decide outcomes - and things could be debated with facts instead.

The flaw to the setup is that long running comic characters are OFTEN more powerful than otherwise comparable film/manga/book/TV/short run comic characters because over time, different authors will come in and give them higher end feats outside of their initial or typical presentation, when this happens enough, it sticks according to Rumbles rules. On the other hand, single authored characters generally stick to presentation and don't get those periods of wank.

There is no "perfect" system because any type will favor one type of character over another, but this works well enough as is just to keep things rather civil.

Farealmer
06-05-2014, 08:35 AM
This would be a point if there weren't people in shorter stories than Preacher that have better feats than anyone in Preacher(Preacher had like 66 issues which isn't a bad run at all). Duration of a story matter less than what the story is about. And fact is many of the characters in Preacher have plenty of feats because they often came in conflict. Those feats and characters just aren't as powerful as people like to claim. Satan, the angels and even "God" are just punks with some power an cred and haven't done a thing to give the scale despite many opportunities for the comic to go there. Fact is SoK failed to kill a vampire and his only "higher" kills are a devil that did nothing but act like a thug outta fist of the north star and a god that was a weak coward with no hints of Omni anything except stupidty. That's the issue here, not run time. It's that people wants to treat him like the be all end all when despite all his appearances he did nothing of the sort.

Jesse is dead, him(and Genesis) got killed by being shot with a normal gun IIRC. Spectre is way beyond that level.

Carabas
06-05-2014, 09:00 AM
Fact is SoK failed to kill a vampire...I do not recall the Saint to ever try to kill a vampire, much less failing to do so.

abmccray
06-05-2014, 09:03 AM
Cassidy got shot and came back to life because of being undead. It was a loophole in how the guns work. Garth Ennis has since said even that was a mistake because he hadn't fully thought out how he wanted things to work at that point, but it did happen. That gives a lot of characters "outs" against the SoK; ie. if Jason Voorhees fought him, the guns wouldn't work, for instance.

Surtur
06-05-2014, 10:07 AM
Cassidy got shot and came back to life because of being undead. It was a loophole in how the guns work. Garth Ennis has since said even that was a mistake because he hadn't fully thought out how he wanted things to work at that point, but it did happen. That gives a lot of characters "outs" against the SoK; ie. if Jason Voorhees fought him, the guns wouldn't work, for instance.

It's funny how the undead had a loophole, but God did not.

Carabas
06-05-2014, 10:22 AM
Cassidy got shot and came back to life because of being undead. It was a loophole in how the guns work.That's not helpful. I still don't remember it. When was this in the story?

That is a loophole the Spectre could abuse though.

wjowski
06-05-2014, 10:39 AM
That's not helpful. I still don't remember it. When was this in the story?

That is a loophole the Spectre could abuse though.

He doesn't need a loophole.

abmccray
06-05-2014, 10:41 AM
That's not helpful. I still don't remember it. When was this in the story?

That is a loophole the Spectre could abuse though.

Very early in it. I forgot where, exactly. Ennis was then hoping you'd just forget about that.

Slade1
06-05-2014, 10:47 AM
That's not helpful. I still don't remember it. When was this in the story?

That is a loophole the Spectre could abuse though.

First of all, this is a fight between the Spectre and Preacher, not SoK. And second, he doesn't need a loophole as he's more powerful than Preacher and SoK combined.

Carabas
06-05-2014, 12:09 PM
I feel the need to point out that "Preacher" is not a superhero name.

Slade1
06-05-2014, 01:30 PM
I feel the need to point out that "Preacher" is not a superhero name.

No, it's not but the OP specified it as "Preacher" and "Word of God" so I'm assuming Jesse.

Primetime Harder
06-05-2014, 03:43 PM
I would like to point out that all of Preacher-verse God's (low) showings are after he abdicated his omnipotence along with the Throne of Creation. While he still possessed a great deal of power, the Saint killing him should really not be touted as a top-tier accomplishment.

Though evidently he never had much in the way of omniscience, given how he completely missed every event that led to his death. What kind of all-knowing being can't see its own f#$%ing death? Feh.

Surtur
06-05-2014, 04:48 PM
At least this will all be beautifully adapted by Seth Rogen!

Carabas
06-05-2014, 05:15 PM
No, it's not but the OP specified it as "Preacher" and "Word of God" so I'm assuming Jesse.Obviously, but it's also not the voice of god, and I don't think it even gets called this in the book. It's always "a voice like god" or words to that effect.

Carabas
06-05-2014, 05:16 PM
I would like to point out that all of Preacher-verse God's (low) showings are after he abdicated his omnipotence along with the Throne of Creation. While he still possessed a great deal of power, the Saint killing him should really not be touted as a top-tier accomplishment.The reason he abdicated in the first place is because he knew Genesis was more powerful than him.

Farealmer
06-05-2014, 05:23 PM
Which considering the poor feats of Genesis it doesn't speak well for god.

Pendaran
06-05-2014, 09:34 PM
None of this really gets around the simple fact that to obliterate/transmute/frankly whatever Jesse, all the Spectre has to do is think. To use his abilities, Jesse has to speak. That's kinda that. As far as the actual fight at hand in the thread that is.

Yes, it's also certainly the case that the things the Spectre has done blow wildly past the various actions of the things in the Preacherverse, particularly when taking into account things like God needing his throne to be all total power having, but still, it's an unavoidable thing.

Lax
06-06-2014, 10:51 AM
If he's omnipotent why did he need to rest? Bible God took a day to rest after creating stuff, how was he fatigued at all? He should of had infinite stamina. There is already a flaw right there.

The word "rest" doesn't necessarily refer to fatigue, it also refers to stopping. The car came to a rest at the bottom of the hill.


At any rate, Pre-Nu Spectre seemed quite a bit above Jesse Custer in general, less ambiguous feats of power.

Primetime Harder
06-06-2014, 11:21 AM
The reason he abdicated in the first place is because he knew Genesis was more powerful than him.

Good point. I guess he never had omniscience or omnipotence then.

DCU vs. Preacher seems like a classic case of "My god can beat up your god."

Carabas
06-06-2014, 04:43 PM
Good point. I guess he never had omniscience or omnipotence then.
No, it was the old question of whether an all-powerful god can make something that's stronger than he is. He could and he did, and he did it out of ego, even knowing the risks.

The Chou Lives
06-07-2014, 03:07 PM
Preacher God is only absolute on the throne. He did beat up Jessie, resurrected Tulip, and made folks immune to Word.

But Spectre is leagues stronger than all. SoK can kill anything alive, but not undead. (Ask Cassidy.)

So yeah, Preacherverse power level is really out there.

Surtur
06-10-2014, 08:33 AM
The word "rest" doesn't necessarily refer to fatigue, it also refers to stopping. The car came to a rest at the bottom of the hill.

Right, so why does an omnipotent need 6 days to create anything? Should of been able to do it in the blink of an eye. Shouldn't of even taken 6 seconds, and not a single soul benefits from stretching out the time for creation.

Farealmer
06-10-2014, 10:05 AM
Right, so why does an omnipotent need 6 days to create anything? Should of been able to do it in the blink of an eye. Shouldn't of even taken 6 seconds, and not a single soul benefits from stretching out the time for creation.
What's this have to do with anything? Other than continue about real life religion when it's specifically banned?

1. Preacher god isn't biblical God, he has not the feats nor the scale. The characters can say all they want the feats simply aren't there. And while i'am not a follower of the religion and thus unfamiliar I am fairly sure God didn't need a throne to do anything he did.

2. An omnipotent being can do what they wish for as long as they wish. If they want to take 6 billion years to blink they can, if they want to create a transhyperdimensionalultramegaversalwhateverthehel l thing in timespans shorter than plank scale they can. It has no real bearing on capacity, just choice. Not that it matters since the PV god is neither omnipotent nor particularly high on the cosmic scale. The Silver Surfer is more impressive honestly save perhaps with ressurection, since I don't know if Surfer ever did that.

Preacherverse god is basically Dr. Manhatten, he gets alota cred but he has none of the feats to put him on the level people say.

Surtur
06-10-2014, 10:19 AM
What's this have to do with anything? Other than continue about real life religion when it's specifically banned?

1. Preacher god isn't biblical God, he has not the feats nor the scale. The characters can say all they want the feats simply aren't there. And while i'am not a follower of the religion and thus unfamiliar I am fairly sure God didn't need a throne to do anything he did.

2. An omnipotent being can do what they wish for as long as they wish. If they want to take 6 billion years to blink they can, if they want to create a transhyperdimensionalultramegaversalwhateverthehel l thing in timespans shorter than plank scale they can. It has no real bearing on capacity, just choice. Not that it matters since the PV god is neither omnipotent nor particularly high on the cosmic scale. The Silver Surfer is more impressive honestly save perhaps with ressurection, since I don't know if Surfer ever did that.

Preacherverse god is basically Dr. Manhatten, he gets alota cred but he has none of the feats to put him on the level people say.

It has to do with the definitions of "omnipotent". An omnipotent doesn't need days to create anything. Sure they can do anything they wish, but then we'd need valid reasons as to why said omnipotent decided to take time to do it, which we don't have. Or in other words, featwise? No, an omnipotent aint creating a universe in the blink of an eye unless they have shown they can.

This isn't just applying to the biblical God, but ANY character said to be omnipotent. Though like you said, the preacher version wasn't omnipotent. In this very topic, it was alluded to he was.

Farealmer
06-10-2014, 10:29 AM
It has to do with the definitions of "omnipotent". An omnipotent doesn't need days to create anything. Sure they can do anything they wish, but then we'd need valid reasons as to why said omnipotent decided to take time to do it, which we don't have.

This isn't just applying to the biblical God, but ANY character said to be omnipotent. Though like you said, the preacher version wasn't omnipotent. In this very topic, it was alluded to he was.

The problem here is you rose to Carabas's false representation of preachergod's capacities. He said preacher god is literally biblical God and thus the feats are the same. They are not, Preacherverse god shows time and again limits which as far as I know simply don't apply to God, to say nothing of the lore differences. Which both makes any debate on him on that level both pointless and a violation of the rules. To use the whole "well this is for future debates with omnipotents" is a false argument as any "omnipotents" on this board are discussed from feats or relation to those that have them on a case by case basis. So debating them here is pointless, offtopic, and a violation of the rules.

Which is why I am bringing this up.

The Chou Lives
06-10-2014, 10:38 AM
God in Preacherverse is simply God in THAT universe. He is met to be Bible's God, but of THAT universe. Real life religion should not count here.

Take for example Jesus did not die and resurrect in Preacher plot, he took drugs to fake his death and lived on to his 40s before getting run over by a cart. (Killed)

Preacher is pretty satire at religion in instances like that.

Surtur
06-10-2014, 10:53 AM
God in Preacherverse is simply God in THAT universe. He is met to be Bible's God, but of THAT universe. Real life religion should not count here.

Take for example Jesus did not die and resurrect in Preacher plot, he took drugs to fake his death and lived on to his 40s before getting run over by a cart. (Killed)

Preacher is pretty satire at religion in instances like that.

Okay, but my point was it is irrelevant either way, because neither God actually does anything to suggest true omnipotence. Even if the creator of Preacher himself came and said "he totally has all the feats from the bible" it still wouldn't change the "not actually omnipotent" thing. It's not really a religious debate, more of a feat debate. If I created a work of fiction right now and had a character that does everything God from the bible does, the character wouldn't still be an actual omnipotent. Or rather, it would just mean I have a flawed understanding of what the word means. Since, we'd still have non-omnipotents from DC and Marvel with vastly better feats.

Farealmer
06-10-2014, 10:58 AM
Okay, but my point was it is irrelevant either way, because neither God actually does anything to suggest true omnipotence. Even if the creator of Preacher himself came and said "he totally has all the feats from the bible" it still wouldn't change the "not actually omnipotent" thing.
"True" Omnipotent is impossible to prove in a feats based system, so that's a given. Which makes any debate on this forum for ANY character on that basis pointless. Which confuses me why you'd bother with it since you should well know this by now. :confused:


It's not really a religious debate, more of a feat debate. If I created a work of fiction right now and had a character that does everything God from the bible does, the character wouldn't still be an actual omnipotent.
It would be a religious debate because it's a tasteless attempt to turn it into a religious debate. Bibilical God is offlimits. Any other God only gets their feats and "X said he can do everything in the Bible" isn't a feat. It's a transparent attempt to debate someone offlimits.


Since, we'd still have non-omnipotents from DC and Marvel with vastly better feats.
DC and Marvel have no omnipotents, that's the point.

Presence, OAA, Infinity Gauntlet, Preretcon Beyonder, etc none of these could ever be proven to be omnipotent on this board. Regardless of how high their feats are.

The Drunkard Kid
06-10-2014, 02:49 PM
Besides, this line of discussion is based on the idea that an omnipotent being needs to act in a way that's understandable or reasonable to things that are so far beneath them as to be fundamentally indistinguishable from inanimate matter (ie, anything that isn't omnipotent).

One might as well all why someone/something that is omnipotent feels like doing anything at all when their time (if they ever get around to making time in the first place) could be just as well, if not better, served by just floating around and reveling in their own raw amazingness and awesometude.

Lax
06-10-2014, 03:21 PM
Right, so why does an omnipotent need 6 days to create anything?

Felt like it? Need is your choice of words.


Should of been able to do it in the blink of an eye. Shouldn't of even taken 6 seconds, and not a single soul benefits from stretching out the time for creation.

Could have done any number of things, including nothing at all.

Who decides should? With omnipotence there's no limit to the power, only in what you do with it. If a googol universes were created in a second you could just as easily ask "Why not a googolplex of universes in a trillionth of a second?" as far as it goes.

It's not like there's a particular rush to do anything, time itself is meaningless.

Tramp Stampede
06-10-2014, 04:22 PM
Alright, alright, I'm doing this. I don't want to get in trouble for potential religious discussion, but I feel like I have something to contribute here.

There's a... minor translation issue with the English Bible. I mean there's a few, but specifically, the word we use for "day" was actually the word "yom" in Hebrew. It can mean a 24 hour period, or the sunlit portion of said period, but it can also mean a generally long age of unspecified time. Yom has like six different meanings, though an actual day is the most common. So, like, translated roughly something like "in the day of the judges" might not actually mean a literal day, just the period of time in which the judges did their thing, however long it happened to be. Other parts of the Bible even complicate it further, saying that a day to God is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day. Heck, there wasn't even a sun until the fourth day or so--would a period of time with no sun and no moon still be considered a day in the technical English sense?

The six days Biblical God spent making stuff were in all likelihood meant to be six stages or periods or segments, not literal actual physical 24 hour days.

Bullet Sniper
06-11-2014, 09:24 AM
If he's omnipotent why did he need to rest? Bible God took a day to rest after creating stuff, how was he fatigued at all? He should of had infinite stamina. There is already a flaw right there. Ignoring the fact that any character only gets the feats they show. It's just like any god from any myth, whether it Christian or Greek, etc. They kind of need to live up to the hype, on panel, so to speak. Just like Thor or Zeus don't get feats from the myths, etc.

Just a note. He wasn't actually resting. It was to mark the 7th day of the week, Sunday. And while absolutely not related to this thread, there are several quotes I can find for the Biblical God in Jewish scriptures where he creates and destroys like a thousand universes before creating our.

Ugh... religion debates in the rumbles.