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Tami
06-09-2014, 09:04 AM
Rumbler's League - Week Two

Tami (http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?3501-Rumbler-s-League-2014-Spring-Summer-Team-Reference&p=93466&viewfull=1#post93466)

Harry Dresden (The Dresden Files) 6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dresden)+ Book of the Vishanti (Marvel) 7 (http://marvel.com/universe/Book_of_the_Vishanti) + Bob the Skull (Dresden Files) 6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Dresden_Files_characters#.22Bob.22)
Thomas Raith (The Dresden Files) 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Raith)+ Silver Torc (Secret History) 7 (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Silver+Torc) + Sword of Kamuu, The (Marvel) 8 (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Sword+of+Kamuu)
Powergirl (DC) 10 (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kara_Zor-El_%28Earth_2%29) / Meggan (Marvel) 9 (http://marvel.wikia.com/Meggan_Puceanu_%28Earth-616%29) + Access Amalgamation (Marvel/DC) 8 (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Access+Amalgamation)
Daniel X (Daniel X - novel and manga series) 8 (http://danielx.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_X) + Sun Disc (Original Item) 10 (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Sun+Disc)
Molly Carpenter (The Dresden Files) 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Carpenter#Molly_Carpenter) + Norn Stones (Marvel) 8 (http://www.comicvine.com/norn-stones/4055-56330/)
Justine (Dresden Files) 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Dresden_Files_characters#Justine) + Girdle of Aphrodite (Items of Olympus/OC item) 9 (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Items+of+Olympus)+ Kymellian Power Blessing: Gravity (Marvel) 2 (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Kymellian+Power+Blessing)
Ikaris (Marvel) 9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikaris)


Vs

Cthulhu_of_R'yleh (http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?3501-Rumbler-s-League-2014-Spring-Summer-Team-Reference&p=93665&viewfull=1#post93665)

Morgan La Fay (Marvel) (9) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_le_Fay_%28Marvel_Comics%29) w/Book of Many Things (Marvel) (4) (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/bookmany.htm); Book of Eternity (DC) (9) (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Eternity+Book)
Ray (Ray Terrill) (DC) (9) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_%28comics%29) w/Matter Mobilizer (Marvel) (7) (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/mattermobilizeruatu.htm); Red Sword (9) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielding_a_Red_Sword#The_Red_Sword)
Dr. Polaris (Nichol) (DC) (8) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Polaris#John_Nichol) w/Monopole Injection (DC) (8) (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Monopole+Injection)
Domino (Marvel) (4) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_%28comics%29) w/Doomgiver (Book of Swords) (9) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Swords_of_Power#Doomgiver); Leggings of Speed Day-Glo Orange (Hackmaster) (10) (http://s1144.photobucket.com/user/dalakfirebeard1/media/Leggings_zps0e6fe4a4.jpg.html?t=1397029341)
Imp (Worm) (5) w/Ivory Idol of Ikonn (Marvel) (10) (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Ivory+Idol+of+Ikonn)
Deadpool (Marvel) (5) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool) w/Red Lantern Ring (DC) (9) (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Red+Lantern+Ring)
Rogue (Marvel) (5) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_%28comics%29)


Arena: OUTSIDE STAR LABS (http://rumblers-league.wikispaces.com/Outside+S.T.A.R+Labs)

Rules:


No Posting or Voting during the 1st hour and the last hour of this match
No Posting Non-Debate posts here unless absolutely necessary. Non-debate Posts should be posted in the Discussion Thread. If you must absolutely post one, please mark it as a Non-debate post to avoid confusion. No more than 4 MAX allowed in this thread.
Each Team gets 12 Debate Posts
If no Strategy is Submitted, its' a automatic Void and a Win for their opponent.
Two-Player Teams, only one can vote for their team.

Tami
06-09-2014, 09:14 AM
Team Tami

Ready, Set:

All Team Members, if needed and not already done, will activate their powers immediately.
All Team Members with Defenses will raise those defenses for themselves and their team mates, this includes invisibility
The Book of Vishanti Counters All Magical attacks, including Crimson Bands.
All Injuries will be healed; all D-Dumps will be countered.
All actions will be done at highest Speeds possible and to the Best Abilities and at the Fullest Powers of all Team Members
All Team members will aid each other as needed; telepathic links will allow for organized movements.
All Opposing Team Members, once defeated, will be sent to Artics Tor to be ‘Out on Ice’
Proof of Actions will be provided in Debate.



Action:

With the sounds of conflict close by, Team Dresden know they have to act fast. In a heartbeat a Full-Sensory veils, courtesy of the Winter Lady, conceals the whole team. They vanish into the dark, dreariness of the overcast day, into the woods. Three take flight, four on foot.
The Winter Lady senses a psychic attack and zeroes in on its’ source. Harry, with Bob riding inside him, moves in quickly. His Starborn nature and Bob’s help deflecting the psychic assault. Using the Wizards’ Sight he notes the location of Imp “Infreiga!” a storm of ice freezes the girl solid. Molly teleports to that location and transports the girl to Arctis Tor. He then moves quickly away, continuing to seek out the other team. [If Harry does not find Imp first, Thomas will using the sensors’ and Sight of the Torc. Moving in on her at high speed, all he has to do is briefly expose his hand and touch her to render her unconscious. Then again the Winter Lady will add Imp to the Arctis Tor Collection.]

Morgan Le Fay of Team Cthulhu will attempt to launch a magical attack, however it will be hampered by her inability to find her targets. Upon quickly dispatching Imp, Harry and Thomas will team up to go after Morgan, countering her magic and finally blasting her into unconsciousness. [If that doesn't work, glorious will use her innate Magical Abilities and transformational abilities to match Morgan's Powers and Counter them, giving the others time to take her down.]

Sensing a fluctuation in time, the Winter Lady will take action to counter it. Instantly teleporting behind Ray’s massively huge and unwieldy Matter Mobilizer, she will immobilize it into junk by a properly applied ‘Hexus’ or freezing it solid. She will then attack his mind, wiping his memories and making him incapable of fighting any more. She will then send him and his sword to Artics Tor. The Winter Lady will use her own considerable powers of Illusion to distract the opposing team, throw them off their guard and keep them from getting in any first strikes.

Before Dr. Polaris can react, Daniel, under the Winter Lady’s Veil, will sneak up behind him. Using super strength, super speed, and Nova Blasts, he will grab up Polaris and shove him into a created Lead Coffin, sealing him inside. Once inside the Lead Coffin, the Winter Lady will pick him up and send him to Artics Tor with the rest his team.

Glorious will target Domino, assuming that Domino doesn’t overshoot the Arena and end up in South America. In order for Domino to do anything, she needs to get up close and use the sword. Instead of attacking her directly, Glorious will use her Super Speed to keep up with Domino, her Empathic powers to keep track of her, and then use her elemental powers to trap Domino. The sword is used to direct attacks, not entrapments that cause no physical harm.

Before Rogue can make physical contact with anyone, Ikaris will blast her from the sky. As long as he can keep her away from the rest of her team and away from the NPCs, he should make short work of her. If she does manage to copy anyone’s powers, he will keep her busy until either Glorious or Daniel can join him on a two-on-one attack.

That just leaves Red-Deadpool. While the others will be engaged in fighting, Justine will be secretly going after the NPCs. Using her powers of enthrallment on them she will create a small super-powered army, giving them the order to attack Deadpool, all at once. At minimum they should be enough to keep Deadpool busy until the Winter Lady or the Winter Knight has the time to turn him into an Ice Sculpture. [If Deadpool is still an Issue, he will be over whelmed by a combined Blast attack from Daniel, Glorious and Ikaris, then bound in Winter Ice and transported to Arctis Tor.]

Tami
06-09-2014, 09:16 AM
Team Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh

Deceptively Simple, yet Elegant

Notes: All opening moves will be happening at once (with the light-speed capable performing their tasks much quicker, for obvious reasons). All individuals will also be operating to the best of their abilities.

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The Ray of Wonderment and Illusions/ - Will immediately stop time with the Red Sword, before activating the Matter Mobilizer to create an illusion of the team away from the main team, which will at the very least temporarily distract the opponents . He will the unfreeze time so that the rest of the actions on the team can be carried out immediately, before rushing in to combat/distract Glorious Girl.

Launch the Polaris! - Amplified by the Monopole Injection, there is nothing on the opposing side to stop Dr. Polaris from immediately manipulating all of the metal present on the opposing side, either by ripping it away from the user or causing it to explode on their user; he will also actively be catalyzing nuclear reactions to otherwise destabilize and distract the team.

One Lucky Pointy Bastard (Domino) - Will immediately move into position to protect Morgan "All the Books" Faye. Using Doomgiver to reflect all incomings attacks, and even the effects of the Girdle of Aphrodite (as it has done the same to a God attempting to seduce a normal human). With Domino's probability manipulation working in symphony, the probability of an attack getting through to Morgan "All the Books Fay.

Morgan "All the Books" Fay - Will immediately cast the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak on Daniel Ra, to prevent him from stopping time, and to otherwise immobilize him for the duration, before soul-ripping him and turning him against the team. In addition to being protected by Domino with Doomgiver, she, as well as the rest of the team, is also being protected by auto-shielding, thanks to the Book of Eternity, which has also amplified her mystical ability by a considerable amount.

Follow Up: Will immediately follow up the Crimson bands by soul-ripping Justine Amore, at which point she can turn the soul (and presumably the abilities held therein) against its team.

The Imp of Ikonn - Will immediately hammer the opposing side with her Xavier+ level telepathic assault.

Follow Up: Mind Whammy the stragglers!

Red Dead ReDeadpool - Will rush the enemy and attack Harry Dresden and Thomas Wraith.

Follow Up: Not much of one. His job is to zip around and tie up Dresden and Wraith.

Moulin Rogue - Will fly in and attempt to drain the bound Daniel Ra and steal his natural abilities. If successful (don't see why she wouldn't be at this point) she will then use his powers against the Eternal Ikaris.

Notes:

Domino - Will have reflected the effects of the Girdle of Aphrodite, thanks to the "on sight" effect, turning them back on Justine Amore neutralizing her.

Launch the Polaris! - Will have exploded/stolen, all of the metallic artifacts/items present on the enemy team - Silver Torc, Force Rings, Shield Bracelet, Sword of Kamuu, Sun Disk, and the Girdle of Aphrodite.

Imp of Ikonn - Should have, at this point, shut down the opposing side with her high level of telepathic assault.

Morgan La Fay - Will have locked up Daniel Ra preventing him from doing anything with his abilities.

Red Dead ReDeadpool - Will have been actively interfering with Harry and Thomas, allowing for the completion of the other moves.

Moulin Rogue - Will have done things this time!

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
06-09-2014, 02:32 PM
With the sounds of conflict close by, Team Dresden know they have to act fast. In a heartbeat a Full-Sensory veils, courtesy of the Winter Lady, conceals the whole team. They vanish into the dark, dreariness of the overcast day, into the woods. Three take flight, four on foot.

Cool cool. First move is to get away from the group.


The Winter Lady senses a psychic attack and zeroes in on its’ source.

Before or after she gets destroyed by the Xavier+ level telepathic assault?


Harry, with Bob riding inside him, moves in quickly. His Starborn nature and Bob’s help deflecting the psychic assault.

Feats for it resisting a Telepathic capable of slapping Xavier?


Using the Wizards’ Sight he notes the location of Imp “Infreiga!” a storm of ice freezes the girl solid.

Can the Sight be used to dectet something that can't be detected, outside of telepathy and emphatic senses? Can he also do this before the aforementioned Telepathic whammy?


Morgan Le Fay of Team Cthulhu will attempt to launch a magical attack, however it will be hampered by her inability to find her targets.

Since her first move is to cast the Crimson Bands, it'll find Daniel all on its lonesome.


Upon quickly dispatching Imp,

See above.


Harry and Thomas will team up to go after Morgan, countering her magic and finally blasting her into unconsciousness. [If that doesn't work, glorious will use her innate Magical Abilities and transformational abilities to match Morgan's Powers and Counter them, giving the others time to take her down.

How are they getting to her through the auto-shielding, and protection from Domino.


Sensing a fluctuation in time, the Winter Lady will take action to counter it.

Feats for negating time stops?


She will then attack his mind, wiping his memories and making him incapable of fighting any more. She will then send him and his sword to Artics Tor. The Winter Lady will use her own considerable powers of Illusion to distract the opposing team, throw them off their guard and keep them from getting in any first strikes.

Since your first move is to run away, and my first move is to hammer you with an Xavier+ level telepathic assault, stop time, and otherwise throw a sink at you, the first moves are going to happen just fine.


Before Dr. Polaris can react, Daniel, under the Winter Lady’s Veil, will sneak up behind him. Using super strength, super speed, and Nova Blasts, he will grab up Polaris and shove him into a created Lead Coffin, sealing him inside. Once inside the Lead Coffin, the Winter Lady will pick him up and send him to Artics Tor with the rest his team.

Again, you went on the defensive, while I went for a full assault.

Meaning there's nothing to stop Dr. Polaris from stealing/blowing up everything made of metal on your side.


Glorious will target Domino, assuming that Domino doesn’t overshoot the Arena and end up in South America.

With her probability manipulation (i.e. good luck), she'll be fine.


In order for Domino to do anything, she needs to get up close and use the sword.


Instead of attacking her directly, Glorious will use her Super Speed to keep up with Domino, her Empathic powers to keep track of her, and then use her elemental powers to trap Domino. The sword is used to direct attacks, not entrapments that cause no physical harm.

No she does not. Doomgiver reflects incoming attacks aimed at the wielder. Up to and including mental influence from a God with the same power as the Girdle, and otherwise deterring an attack ont he city, because of the effects of the sword and the risk of;

"all the evil he or his followers had ever wielded against anyone in the city would be suddenly returned against him."

It's also done things like make bats eat themselves, had a demon fold itself painfully into its own stomach, and turning despair (an emotion) back at a group of Gods from the setting.

So they should be fine.


Before Rogue can make physical contact with anyone, Ikaris will blast her from the sky. As long as he can keep her away from the rest of her team and away from the NPCs, he should make short work of her. If she does manage to copy anyone’s powers, he will keep her busy until either Glorious or Daniel can join him on a two-on-one attack.

Fair enough.


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In summary, nothing is done on your side to prevent my side from enacting their opening moves. At which point you proceed to attack after the fact. Pending feats for negating time stops, detecting largely undetectable foes and otherwise survive a telepathic siege at Xavier's level and above, or otherwise stopping Morgan La Fay and Domino w/Doomgiver from acting with relative impunity...

I really don't see how you've got a chance here.

Darth Drizzle
06-10-2014, 07:42 AM
Good match here. Got a few questions for both.

Has the Matter Mobilizers illusions worked on people with Super Senses or other sensing type abilities?

What have Harry/Bob deflected Psychic wise to help them here.

How fast are Harry/Winter Lady and what has thr concealment spell protected before.

Has Dr Polaris done fine control of metals at long range like Magneto or is he more fighting and AOE blast type of guy.

Primetime Harder
06-10-2014, 07:42 AM
Can the Sight be used to detect something that can't be detected, outside of telepathy and empathic senses?

That is, in fact, the Sight's primary purpose.

Tami
06-10-2014, 10:31 AM
Non-Debate Post

Still considering my responses. Will post them as soon as I'm ready.

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
06-10-2014, 10:45 AM
Good match here. Got a few questions for both.

Has the Matter Mobilizers illusions worked on people with Super Senses or other sensing type abilities?

In Fantastic Four #48, Uatu used it to hide the entire Earth first with a flaming sky, and then with a debris field from the Silver Surfer. Guy had to physically penetrate the illusion. To find out it was, in fact, an illusion. Surfer definitely has super senses, and other sensing abilities.


Has Dr Polaris done fine control of metals at long range like Magneto or is he more fighting and AOE blast type of guy.

Bit more of a fighter/AoE guy. But he has a level of control enough to manipulate the iron content in a persons' blood, amped by the Monopole injection he was also able to completely disrupt Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle's abilities.


That is, in fact, the Sight's primary purpose.

There feats for it? I'm not the best when it comes to Harry Dresden know-how.

Tami
06-10-2014, 11:36 AM
Way too many feats of using the Sight to list. Here is an good example of how it works from Storm Front GN:

3692

Example; In Turn Coat, he saw Shagnasty, the Naagloshii following him thorough Chicago in broad daylight using the Sight when no one else in the entire city could see him. As in, being completely invisible to everyone and only seen by Harry because he used his Sight.




1/12

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
06-10-2014, 11:43 AM
Way too many feats of using the Sight to list. Here is an good example of how it works from Storm Front GN:

3692

Well that's cool. So it would probably work at detecting her.

Problem with Imp is that her powers also work through people immediately forgetting she's there. To the point where she can slit someone's throat and no one would know who did it. So with the Sight working, they'll have to drop her the split second before they forget, which ... isn't going to happen, what with the telepathic assault, etc. and also because it's not their opening move.

3/12

Tami
06-10-2014, 11:54 AM
Well that's cool. So it would probably work at detecting her.

Problem with Imp is that her powers also work through people immediately forgetting she's there. To the point where she can slit someone's throat and no one would know who did it. So with the Sight working, they'll have to drop her the split second before they forget, which ... isn't going to happen, what with the telepathic assault, etc. and also because it's not their opening move.

3/12

The Problem with the Wizard's Sight is that You never Forget ANYTHING you See with it, EVER! No matter how traumatic it is. And nothing can get that close to him without him sensing it, just as he sensed the Naagloshii following him, and the Sight can be activate with a thought.

2/12

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
06-10-2014, 12:24 PM
The Problem with the Wizard's Sight is that You never Forget ANYTHING you See with it, EVER! No matter how traumatic it is.

Since her power causes people to forget about her. He's going to need feats for resisting memory-erasing effects.


And nothing can get that close to him without him sensing it, just as he sensed the Naagloshii following him, and the Sight can be activate with a thought.

2/12

She doesn't need to get close, also, since your first move is your team running away to hide, and not activating the sight right out of the gate. Imp is still hitting everyone with Bedlam level telepathy before he gets the chance. Meaning it's a moot point.

4/12

Tami
06-10-2014, 02:29 PM
Not my strong suit, but I'll give it my best try:


Team Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh

Deceptively Simple, yet Elegant

Notes: All opening moves will be happening at once (with the light-speed capable performing their tasks much quicker, for obvious reasons). All individuals will also be operating to the best of their abilities.

--

The Ray of Wonderment and Illusions/ - Will immediately stop time with the Red Sword, before activating the Matter Mobilizer to create an illusion of the team away from the main team, which will at the very least temporarily distract the opponents . He will the unfreeze time so that the rest of the actions on the team can be carried out immediately, before rushing in to combat/distract Glorious Girl.

Time Stop Countered by Molly [Daniel too is unaffected]. Any doubts, look to 'Cold Days', Chapter 42 where they talk about One of the Queens Bending Time. Molly is now one of the Queens, as such she has the power to bend, manipulate, alter the flow of Time on a massive scale. Just as Maeve did.

Launch the Polaris! - Amplified by the Monopole Injection, there is nothing on the opposing side to stop Dr. Polaris from immediately manipulating all of the metal present on the opposing side, either by ripping it away from the user or causing it to explode on their user; he will also actively be catalyzing nuclear reactions to otherwise destabilize and distract the team.

Opposing Team (my team) has very little Metal on them, and before Polaris can act Daniel will already have him wrapped up in a lead box. Handy having a low level reality warper on the team.

One Lucky Pointy Bastard (Domino) - Will immediately move into position to protect Morgan "All the Books" Faye. Using Doomgiver to reflect all incomings attacks, and even the effects of the Girdle of Aphrodite (as it has done the same to a God attempting to seduce a normal human). With Domino's probability manipulation working in symphony, the probability of an attack getting through to Morgan "All the Books Fay.


Just makes it easy for Glorious, Harry and Thomas to take them both out at the same time. Probability manipulation has it's limits. It's fien for a single attack, but multiple attacks from multilple directions tax it to the breaking point.

Morgan "All the Books" Fay - Will immediately cast the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak on Daniel Ra, to prevent him from stopping time, and to otherwise immobilize him for the duration, before soul-ripping him and turning him against the team. In addition to being protected by Domino with Doomgiver, she, as well as the rest of the team, is also being protected by auto-shielding, thanks to the Book of Eternity, which has also amplified her mystical ability by a considerable amount.

Harry has the Book of Vishanti which gives him the power to counter the Crimson Bands, plus Bob will immediate analyze any magical attack and come up with a counter that Harry can use.

Follow Up: Will immediately follow up the Crimson bands by soul-ripping Justine Amore, at which point she can turn the soul (and presumably the abilities held therein) against its team.

The Imp of Ikonn - Will immediately hammer the opposing side with her Xavier+ level telepathic assault.

Thomas, Harry and Molly are immune or resistant to Psychic attacks. Doing so sends out a beacon to Imp's location. Imp will be the very first taken out as Harry and Thomas will immediately converge on her, use the Sight to locate her and take her out very very quickly. She is not very fast, and aside from Ikonn and her invisibility has no other powers.

Follow Up: Mind Whammy the stragglers!

Red Dead ReDeadpool - Will rush the enemy and attack Harry Dresden and Thomas Wraith.

Deadpool will be too busy fighting off Batman and Superman's rouges gallery to do anything against anyone, thanks to Justine's Persuasion.

Follow Up: Not much of one. His job is to zip around and tie up Dresden and Wraith.

Moulin Rogue - Will fly in and attempt to drain the bound Daniel Ra and steal his natural abilities. If successful (don't see why she wouldn't be at this point) she will then use his powers against the Eternal Ikaris.

Daniel X is good, but his natural abilities aren't enough to take out Ikaris, even still, Rogue goes down too fast to be a threat. Plus, all of my team are veiled as needed, she'd never find Daniel as she has no power to see the unseen.

Notes:

Domino - Will have reflected the effects of the Girdle of Aphrodite, thanks to the "on sight" effect, turning them back on Justine Amore neutralizing her.

Justine would not use her power on Domino, so the Sword can't deflect them back. It only deflects attacks and those things aimed at the wielder.

Launch the Polaris! - Will have exploded/stolen, all of the metallic artifacts/items present on the enemy team - Silver Torc, Force Rings, Shield Bracelet, Sword of Kamuu, Sun Disk, and the Girdle of Aphrodite.


Harry doesn't need Shield Bracelets or Force rings anymore, the Sun Disc has become one with Daniel, so no,not going to happen. Also no one ever said the Girdle was made of metal. I think it's made of cloth. The Torc, well, I doubt it since Daniel will move too fast to take out Polaris before he ever tries it.

Imp of Ikonn - Should have, at this point, shut down the opposing side with her high level of telepathic assault. Countered

Morgan La Fay - Will have locked up Daniel Ra preventing him from doing anything with his abilities. Countered

Red Dead ReDeadpool - Will have been actively interfering with Harry and Thomas, allowing for the completion of the other moves. Countered

Moulin Rogue - Will have done things this time! Disabled

Hows that?

3/12

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
06-10-2014, 02:31 PM
Still failing to consider that my teams carrying out their moves while your team is in the process of leaving the area. Which means there's nothing done on your side to actually stop the moves themselves until they've already happened.

EDIT: Will address the other things when I have time.

5/12

Tami
06-10-2014, 02:35 PM
Good match here. Got a few questions for both.

Has the Matter Mobilizers illusions worked on people with Super Senses or other sensing type abilities?

What have Harry/Bob deflected Psychic wise to help them here.

How fast are Harry/Winter Lady and what has thr concealment spell protected before.

Has Dr Polaris done fine control of metals at long range like Magneto or is he more fighting and AOE blast type of guy.

Harry alone has countered Sharkface/He Who Walks Before's psychic attacks twice on his own. Including one that disabled the whole Wild Hunt (Cold Days). Bob has shielded both Harry and Karrin from psychic/will assaults by the Red King and his Elite, which without Bob's help left everyone paralyzed (Changes).

Harry is just above Peak Human in speed, the Winter Lady usually prefers to teleport which is blink of an eye quick. Molly, pre-Winter Lady was hiding her self and Andi from a High Level Fomor Wizard who walked right in front of them in narrow corridor and never even sensed them there in "Bombshells". Boosted by the Winter Lady Power and by the Norn Stones, her powers are pretty much perfect as far as Veils go.

4/12

Tami
06-10-2014, 02:43 PM
Still failing to consider that my teams carrying out their moves while your team is in the process of leaving the area. Which means there's nothing done on your side to actually stop the moves themselves until they've already happened.

EDIT: Will address the other things when I have time.

5/12


It was my intent that they are taking action immediately, heading to attack their targets instead of standing around waiting to be attacked.

4/12

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
06-10-2014, 04:56 PM
Time Stop Countered by Molly [Daniel too is unaffected]. Any doubts, look to 'Cold Days', Chapter 42 where they talk about One of the Queens Bending Time. Molly is now one of the Queens, as such she has the power to bend, manipulate, alter the flow of Time on a massive scale. Just as Maeve did.

But she never displayed the power to do so herself? Also, unless Maeve specifically prevented a time stop from happening, I don't see why Molly would suddenly be able to do it.


Opposing Team (my team) has very little Metal on them, and before Polaris can act Daniel will already have him wrapped up in a lead box.

Not exactly. Your team has a considerable amount of metal artifacts and items. Nothing to stop him from blowing them up at the bell. There's also nothing to stop him from blowing up their red blood cells at the bell, not that it was something I had him do in this instance.


Handy having a low level reality warper on the team.

Handy he's already been grabbed by the Bands and had his mind completely ruined by Bedlam.


Just makes it easy for Glorious, Harry and Thomas to take them both out at the same time. Probability manipulation has it's limits. It's fien for a single attack, but multiple attacks from multilple directions tax it to the breaking point.

It's going to reflect everything aimed at her back at the attacker. Technically, you're killing yourself here. And no, if the Sword was capable of defending an entire city at once, just by being in the city, there's nothing saying it can only reflect a single attack.


Harry has the Book of Vishanti which gives him the power to counter the Crimson Bands, plus Bob will immediate analyze any magical attack and come up with a counter that Harry can use.

If the Bands had been cast at Harry, sure. Since they're not, and he's already in the process of being exploded/mind whammied, I don't see how this is helping.



Thomas, Harry and Molly are immune or resistant to Psychic attacks. Doing so sends out a beacon to Imp's location. Imp will be the very first taken out as Harry and Thomas will immediately converge on her, use the Sight to locate her and take her out very very quickly. She is not very fast, and aside from Ikonn and her invisibility has no other powers.


Not anywhere NEAR the level of Bedlam, who is an Xavier/Xavier+ telepath.


Deadpool will be too busy fighting off Batman and Superman's rouges gallery to do anything against anyone, thanks to Justine's Persuasion.

Except for the fact that her tiara has been exploded/effect been reflected back at her by Doomgiver.


Daniel X is good, but his natural abilities aren't enough to take out Ikaris, even still, Rogue goes down too fast to be a threat. Plus, all of my team are veiled as needed, she'd never find Daniel as she has no power to see the unseen.

Fair enough I suppose. I mainly just wanted her to do something this time, instead of be a non-factor.


Justine would not use her power on Domino, so the Sword can't deflect them back. It only deflects attacks and those things aimed at the wielder.

So she's intentionally crippling herself, allowing Domino/Morgan La Fay to operate with impunity? Ouch.


Harry doesn't need Shield Bracelets or Force rings anymore, the Sun Disc has become one with Daniel, so no,not going to happen. Also no one ever said the Girdle was made of metal. I think it's made of cloth. The Torc, well, I doubt it since Daniel will move too fast to take out Polaris before he ever tries it.

Daniel has no notable super-speed does he? Not to mention he's being mindwhammied/held by the Crimson Bands.


Countered

Nope.


Countered

Again, nope.


Harry alone has countered Sharkface/He Who Walks Before's psychic attacks twice on his own. Including one that disabled the whole Wild Hunt (Cold Days). Bob has shielded both Harry and Karrin from psychic/will assaults by the Red King and his Elite, which without Bob's help left everyone paralyzed (Changes).

Nowhere near Xavier/Xavier+ levels.


Harry is just above Peak Human in speed, the Winter Lady usually prefers to teleport which is blink of an eye quick. Molly, pre-Winter Lady was hiding her self and Andi from a High Level Fomor Wizard who walked right in front of them in narrow corridor and never even sensed them there in "Bombshells".

Wizard doesn't mean telepath.


Boosted by the Winter Lady Power and by the Norn Stones, her powers are pretty much perfect as far as Veils go.

The Norn Stones are a nice boost, but not an immediate win. Especially by someone who doesn't have fully realized/manifested abilities.


It was my intent that they are taking action immediately, heading to attack their targets instead of standing around waiting to be attacked.

Which is all well and good.

Still doesn't change the fact that you have no defense against the Xavier/Xavier+ level telepath completely wreck them with a thought. Among other things.

6/12

Dalak
06-10-2014, 07:40 PM
I actually have a copies of the Incarnations of Immortality series, and have been rereading them off and on since high-school. Now I haven't gone back to check this yet, but as I remember the Time Stops used by Death, Fate, etc didn't freeze the other Incarnations unless you were Time. Molly is a mortal granted immortality and vast magical powers by the mantle/office of Winter Lady in a way that's not very different as Winter is a fundamental of the Dresden Universe similar to the Incarnations. With the Norn Stones mixed into that she has a very decent chance of stopping the Time schenanigans in their tracks in my opinion.

I also own the Books of Swords and I can't remember Doomgiver protecting an entire city, I'll have to check that out. It really didn't get many showings before getting destroyed by Shieldbreaker.

As for resisting Psi of Bedlam magnitude, the Bands, and the rest - I'm less sure about that. I'll try and get it straight enough to vote by the time this ends tomorrow.

The MunchKING
06-10-2014, 09:53 PM
I apparently need to finish reading the Dresden series to know how legit these feats are.

And I know there's about 11 hours left, but I'm voting before I go to bed.

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Much as I hate voting for the Psi-Blitz, I'm going with cuthulu this time.

Cleric of Hell’s Brigade
06-11-2014, 04:29 AM
I actually have a copies of the Incarnations of Immortality series, and have been rereading them off and on since high-school. Now I haven't gone back to check this yet, but as I remember the Time Stops used by Death, Fate, etc didn't freeze the other Incarnations unless you were Time. Molly is a mortal granted immortality and vast magical powers by the mantle/office of Winter Lady in a way that's not very different as Winter is a fundamental of the Dresden Universe similar to the Incarnations. With the Norn Stones mixed into that she has a very decent chance of stopping the Time schenanigans in their tracks in my opinion.

I also own the Books of Swords and I can't remember Doomgiver protecting an entire city, I'll have to check that out. It really didn't get many showings before getting destroyed by Shieldbreaker.

As for resisting Psi of Bedlam magnitude, the Bands, and the rest - I'm less sure about that. I'll try and get it straight enough to vote by the time this ends tomorrow.

It won't. However, if say a large city busting blast was directed at the opposing team, Doomgiver would redirect it away, protecting its user so long as the attack would have hit the Sword's bearer as well. Otherwise, so long as you don't target Doomgiver's bearer, it won't activate.

Tami
06-11-2014, 09:22 AM
Very close match. Good one, Cthulhu.

Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh
06-11-2014, 09:53 AM
Wow. Okay then.


Very close match. Good one, Cthulhu.

Yep. Congrats.