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Random4
06-10-2014, 12:00 PM
2 geniuses going at it, Reed Richards and Michael Holt

1. who has more raw intelligence/ better scientific, technological feats?

2. who wins in a fight?

Primetime Harder
06-10-2014, 12:02 PM
Reed takes both, unless those T-Spheres do some really crazy stuff.

Random4
06-10-2014, 12:05 PM
Reed takes both, unless those T-Spheres do some really crazy stuff.

does Reed have any scientific/technological feat that match T-spheres?

Random4
06-10-2014, 12:15 PM
Reed takes both, unless those T-Spheres do some really crazy stuff.

so reed takes 1?

master of read
06-10-2014, 12:28 PM
unless i've missed something recently, reed has invented new sciences before breakfast that holt couldn't understand.

Random4
06-10-2014, 12:49 PM
unless i've missed something recently, reed has invented new sciences before breakfast that holt couldn't understand.

so Reed has better scientific/technological feats then Holt?

master of read
06-10-2014, 12:59 PM
so Reed has better scientific/technological feats then Holt?

reed has been scientific/tech feats than almost anyone that DC can put up.

big_adventure
06-10-2014, 01:03 PM
does Reed have any scientific/technological feat that match T-spheres?

You... don't know much about Reed Richards (ThugLife4Ever), do you?

Reed's worst mistakes are better than T-Spheres.

Reed, in 5 minutes and without gear, hijacks the systems used by the ultra-advanced Time Variance Authority and uses them to basically break multiversal time to the extent that the end-of-time-living, time-running, dudes-who-have-a-retcon-cannon-that-does-what-it-says-on-the-label can't even find that his timeline exists.

Reed signs his own timeline to prevent other extremely-powerful time manipulators from going back and screwing with it in any way.

Reed, upon finding out about a multiverse-ending event coming in 30 years, designs a car in an afternoon to go then that protects everyone from the catastrophic effects present there, and, oh yeah, when they need to get out of the car, he whips out belt buckles for everyone to wear that basically grant them Wally West speed to escape the time-dilation effect of the collapsing universe.

Reed, in his spare time, designs a suit of anti-Galactus armor, designed to fight off an attack if the world eater ever comes back. Reed, being the guy with by far the best understanding of Big G in the universe, fully expects this to work.

Reed has a portal in his house that lets him casually surf all realities, and lets him go back and forth to any of them whenever he likes. This bridge reveals, in fact, that Reed Richards is always the smartest person in any universe. They have, in fact, created the Council of Reeds to fix every problem everywhere/when. And they do it, doing things like building suns, building worlds that can provide galaxies with food, all kinds of crazy. Of course, Renegade for Life Reed (616 Reed) blows all of that shit right up, because REED RICHARDS, bitch.*

*Note: this is a massive simplification.

Basically, Reed is the top-end Marvel super-scientist, and Marvel has super-scientists like DC has flying bricks. Sure, both companies have both, but Marvel's scientists are just generally higher-end than DC's, like DC's flying bricks add in lightspeed to be higher-end than their marvel counters.

master of read
06-10-2014, 01:12 PM
You... don't know much about Reed Richards (ThugLife4Ever), do you?

Reed's worst mistakes are better than T-Spheres.

Reed, in 5 minutes and without gear, hijacks the systems used by the ultra-advanced Time Variance Authority and uses them to basically break multiversal time to the extent that the end-of-time-living, time-running, dudes-who-have-a-retcon-cannon-that-does-what-it-says-on-the-label can't even find that his timeline exists.

Reed signs his own timeline to prevent other extremely-powerful time manipulators from going back and screwing with it in any way.

Reed, upon finding out about a multiverse-ending event coming in 30 years, designs a car in an afternoon to go then that protects everyone from the catastrophic effects present there, and, oh yeah, when they need to get out of the car, he whips out belt buckles for everyone to wear that basically grant them Wally West speed to escape the time-dilation effect of the collapsing universe.

Reed, in his spare time, designs a suit of anti-Galactus armor, designed to fight off an attack if the world eater ever comes back. Reed, being the guy with by far the best understanding of Big G in the universe, fully expects this to work.

Reed has a portal in his house that lets him casually surf all realities, and lets him go back and forth to any of them whenever he likes. This bridge reveals, in fact, that Reed Richards is always the smartest person in any universe. They have, in fact, created the Council of Reeds to fix every problem everywhere/when. And they do it, doing things like building suns, building worlds that can provide galaxies with food, all kinds of crazy. Of course, Renegade for Life Reed (616 Reed) blows all of that shit right up, because REED RICHARDS, bitch.*

*Note: this is a massive simplification.

Basically, Reed is the top-end Marvel super-scientist, and Marvel has super-scientists like DC has flying bricks. Sure, both companies have both, but Marvel's scientists are just generally higher-end than DC's, like DC's flying bricks add in lightspeed to be higher-end than their marvel counters.

even his unfinished work on a fictional science he decided to invent when he was a boy makes other big brains in marvel shit themselves.
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Random4
06-10-2014, 01:14 PM
You... don't know much about Reed Richards (ThugLife4Ever), do you?

Reed's worst mistakes are better than T-Spheres.

Reed, in 5 minutes and without gear, hijacks the systems used by the ultra-advanced Time Variance Authority and uses them to basically break multiversal time to the extent that the end-of-time-living, time-running, dudes-who-have-a-retcon-cannon-that-does-what-it-says-on-the-label can't even find that his timeline exists.

Reed signs his own timeline to prevent other extremely-powerful time manipulators from going back and screwing with it in any way.

Reed, upon finding out about a multiverse-ending event coming in 30 years, designs a car in an afternoon to go then that protects everyone from the catastrophic effects present there, and, oh yeah, when they need to get out of the car, he whips out belt buckles for everyone to wear that basically grant them Wally West speed to escape the time-dilation effect of the collapsing universe.

Reed, in his spare time, designs a suit of anti-Galactus armor, designed to fight off an attack if the world eater ever comes back. Reed, being the guy with by far the best understanding of Big G in the universe, fully expects this to work.

Reed has a portal in his house that lets him casually surf all realities, and lets him go back and forth to any of them whenever he likes. This bridge reveals, in fact, that Reed Richards is always the smartest person in any universe. They have, in fact, created the Council of Reeds to fix every problem everywhere/when. And they do it, doing things like building suns, building worlds that can provide galaxies with food, all kinds of crazy. Of course, Renegade for Life Reed (616 Reed) blows all of that shit right up, because REED RICHARDS, bitch.*

*Note: this is a massive simplification.

Basically, Reed is the top-end Marvel super-scientist, and Marvel has super-scientists like DC has flying bricks. Sure, both companies have both, but Marvel's scientists are just generally higher-end than DC's, like DC's flying bricks add in lightspeed to be higher-end than their marvel counters.



so Mr. Terrific is a standard genius, while Reed is a WTF, HOLY *#$&*, PLOT DEVICE HAVING, Super Genius

would this be an accurate description of both

Random4
06-10-2014, 01:16 PM
wasn't reed's brain used to recreate the universe or something

master of read
06-10-2014, 01:20 PM
so Mr. Terrific is a standard genius, while Reed is a WTF, HOLY *#$&*, PLOT DEVICE HAVING, Super Genius

would this be an accurate description of both

pretty much but thats really any dc big brain compared to the really big brains of marvel.

reed is pretty much considered top brain of earth with doom running neck and neck. sometimes he's better than reed. other times, they are about equal. depends really.

then we have valeria richards, who is as smart as her father and god father respectively and she's only 4.

then we got tony who is the top engineer of marvel since not only did he make his armor but made it so it could fit in his bones.

hank pym is up there for his shrinking stuff and various other discoveries. reed and tony often call him up when they need an extra brain.

t'challa is up there too with his applications with vibranium.

hank mccoy is tops too, what with inventing a time machine to bring the old xmen to the present to show current cyke was a asshat he's been.

Pendaran
06-10-2014, 01:26 PM
wasn't reed's brain used to recreate the universe or something

Reed's brain was used as part of conceptualizing and making the universe, yes.

Random4
06-10-2014, 01:32 PM
Reed's brain was used as part of conceptualizing and making the universe, yes.

so what does that show that he has so much knowledge?

Pendaran
06-10-2014, 01:59 PM
so what does that show that he has so much knowledge?

It shows that his intellect is advanced to the point that it can be one half of providing the stabilizing existential underpinnings of the universe itself as far as being able to conceptualize that in his thoughts to the unbelievable depth that would require. That Reed can straight up understand and provide the workings of the universe.

abmccray
06-10-2014, 02:16 PM
wasn't reed's brain used to recreate the universe or something

He also fixed Eternity.

abmccray
06-10-2014, 02:17 PM
reed has been scientific/tech feats than almost anyone that DC can put up.

Really, only Majestic comes close, offhand that I can think of.

Surtur
06-10-2014, 02:29 PM
You... don't know much about Reed Richards (ThugLife4Ever), do you?

What does this even mean?

big_adventure
06-10-2014, 02:32 PM
Honestly, that scene with the Thinker is pure gold - Reed invented a pseudoscience after reading Asimov when he was 12. His shit is so advanced that nobody can understand it. So he invites the one guy (note: leaving out the others who probably also could, but whatever) who can appreciate it, even though it's a zillion light years beyond what the guy can do himself, over to compliment him about it.

Reed Renegade for Life (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkCd5hn3yrI) Richards

big_adventure
06-10-2014, 02:34 PM
What does this even mean?

Pendaran, back in the day, used to tag Reed explanation posts with "Thug Life." Especially the ones about him getting in trouble for breaking time (note: Reed only broke time because Doom made him do it...), his solution to which was breaking time worse.

Surtur
06-10-2014, 02:50 PM
Honestly, that scene with the Thinker is pure gold - Reed invented a pseudoscience after reading Asimov when he was 12. His shit is so advanced that nobody can understand it. So he invites the one guy (note: leaving out the others who probably also could, but whatever) who can appreciate it, even though it's a zillion light years beyond what the guy can do himself, over to compliment him about it.

That scene seems less like an actual compliment and more like Reed Richards using what seems to be a compliment..just to act like a smug dick.

Random4
06-10-2014, 03:21 PM
That scene seems less like an actual compliment and more like Reed Richards using what seems to be a compliment..just to act like a smug dick.

so mr. terrific is like a standard genius..

while reed is a plot device genius?

master of read
06-10-2014, 03:25 PM
so mr. terrific is like a standard genius..

while reed is a plot device genius?

unless holt has feats where aliens, who have mastered space travel and tech that makes marvel earth's tech look like stone age crap, have come to earth to ask for reed's help on tech shit, then yes, this would be a accurate statement.

Pendaran
06-10-2014, 03:53 PM
What does this even mean?

Reed Richards was to be put on trial for breaking time. His solution was to break time /even harder/ while being held for trial. He basically shot his way out of the courtroom he was being tried for murder in.

Also he did so by creating alt timeline versions of himself and the FF just to get shot in his place.

Reed Richards balls nasty.

Random4
06-10-2014, 04:18 PM
so reed has created technologies that match the T-Spheres

Random4
06-10-2014, 04:22 PM
or how about this..holt can travel through 9th dimensions how does reed compete with that

Random4
06-10-2014, 04:34 PM
so its fair to say reed has more quanatative feets

but terrific's best feat beats reed's feat

Primetime Harder
06-10-2014, 04:35 PM
or how about this..holt can travel through 9th dimensions how does reed compete with that

"Only nine? Come back when you're beyond where I was in high school."

master of read
06-10-2014, 04:35 PM
or how about this..holt can travel through 9th dimensions how does reed compete with that

been there. done that. a lot.

Random4
06-10-2014, 04:37 PM
"Only nine? Come back when you're beyond where I was in high school."
has Reed done anything like Holt has done..

master of read
06-10-2014, 04:37 PM
so its fair to say reed has more quanatative feets

but terrific's best feat beats reed's feat

reed's worst feats beat holt's best feats, unless he's done things like creating dimensional gate way to other worlds, discover whole dimensions, invent whole new fields of science, and help to create weapons that blow up planets.

master of read
06-10-2014, 04:38 PM
has Reed done anything like Holt has done..

we've been saying everything that he's done. why do you keep asking these questions expecting a different answer?

Random4
06-10-2014, 04:42 PM
we've been saying everything that he's done. why do you keep asking these questions expecting a different answer?

sorry, but i just thought 9th dimension traveling was a good feat...but your right it seems

Pendaran
06-10-2014, 05:48 PM
so its fair to say reed has more quanatative feets

but terrific's best feat beats reed's feat

No, that would be more you saying that based on nothing.

Reed can have his mind be a basis for the creation of the universe, can master and understand the ultimate nullifier to the point where he uses it to restart the multiverse, can build machines that let him consult with multiple alternate versions of himself across the multiverse in order to advise himself on problems..

If that's Terrific's best feat? That's pretty crap compared to Reed.

master of read
06-10-2014, 05:51 PM
No, that would be more you saying that based on nothing.

Reed can have his mind be a basis for the creation of the universe, can master and understand the ultimate nullifier to the point where he uses it to restart the multiverse, can build machines that let him consult with multiple alternate versions of himself across the multiverse in order to advise himself on problems..

If that's Terrific's best feat? That's pretty crap compared to Reed.

and the UN isn't something that just any joe schmo can use without running the risk of blowing up the universe. the fact that reed can use it well enough to reboot the multi-verse is a way out of holt's paygrade

Daenarys Stormborn
06-10-2014, 06:11 PM
sorry, but i just thought 9th dimension traveling was a good feat...but your right it seems

I'd say the 9th dimension portal/ in and out traveling by Terrific in his short solo run is an insane feat! Just like him opening a sonic black hole is up there. Considering that 5d Imps only get up to the 5 dimension grants high-level reality warping, and I'd say it's way up there. It's not reality warping or anything, but great 'wall' tampering. Of course Reed is just orders of magnitude higher in tech/etc mumbo jumbo.

Incidentally, the scan with the Asimaov predictive math always makes me chuckle from a stroy point because of Civil War. Ha!

Probably a better question is whether people below Reed like Black Panther or Ironman could pull off building a portal to and traveling the 9th dimension. The negative zone is one thing...the 9th dimension is a whole other! Rocket Racoon seems to even be above those two based of the lone issue of Guardians of the galaxy I read... (which isn't really much of a base.) Is that furry animal actually smarter than those two? Feels almost like a squirrel girl kind of situation. I couldn't tell if it was meant to be serious.

Pendaran
06-10-2014, 06:25 PM
Probably a better question is whether people below Reed like Black Panther or Ironman could pull off building a portal to and traveling the 9th dimension. The negative zone is one thing...the 9th dimension is a whole other! Rocket Racoon seems to even be above those two based of the lone issue of Guardians of the galaxy I read... (which isn't really much of a base.) Is that furry animal actually smarter than those two? Feels almost like a squirrel girl kind of situation. I couldn't tell if it was meant to be serious.

I know this isn't going to get a reply, but based on what Reed has done and even been listed in this thread for him, why would he not be able to do something like that? The guy, everything else aside, engineers moebius strip prison dimensions.

The Drunkard Kid
06-10-2014, 07:27 PM
Are higher dimensions in the DCU automatically impossible reality warping areas, or its that something that's unique to the 5th Dimension? I mean, isn't Qward and the Yellow Lantern home base which they travel to and from easily enough located in the 6th dimension, or am I misremembering something?

Pendaran
06-10-2014, 07:33 PM
So, just while we're there, the entire origin of the Reed/Doom rivalry is Doom having built a machine to communicate with his mother in the afterlife, which Reed noted the math on was off (which because retcons was apparently because Ben Grimm fucked with it, but anyway). Reed took that machine and improved it to the point that it both worked and let him physically travel into Heaven itself to try and get the Thing's soul back into his body.

Pendaran
06-10-2014, 07:36 PM
Are higher dimensions in the DCU automatically impossible reality warping areas, or its that something that's unique to the 5th Dimension? I mean, isn't Qward and the Yellow Lantern home base which they travel to and from easily enough located in the 6th dimension, or am I misremembering something?

Qward is the anti matter universe, last I recall.

Slade1
06-10-2014, 07:51 PM
pretty much but thats really any dc big brain compared to the really big brains of marvel.

reed is pretty much considered top brain of earth with doom running neck and neck. sometimes he's better than reed. other times, they are about equal. depends really.

then we have valeria richards, who is as smart as her father and god father respectively and she's only 4.

then we got tony who is the top engineer of marvel since not only did he make his armor but made it so it could fit in his bones.

hank pym is up there for his shrinking stuff and various other discoveries. reed and tony often call him up when they need an extra brain.

t'challa is up there too with his applications with vibranium.


hank mccoy is tops too, what with inventing a time machine to bring the old xmen to the present to show current cyke was a asshat he's been.


I think Metron might be close to him if not equal. He did create the Worlogog, Hourman 1 Million and the Genesis Device.

BTW, who was it that created the Miracle Machine?

Shellhead
06-11-2014, 08:49 AM
2 geniuses going at it, Reed Richards and Michael Holt

1. who has more raw intelligence/ better scientific, technological feats?

2. who wins in a fight?

1. Reed has more raw intelligence and better scientific feats.

2. Pre-Flashpoint Mister Terrific wins the fight. While his black belts in a dozen martial arts are not directly useful in this fight, he should at least be very capable at dodging around. Meanwhile, his several t-spheres are very fast and metallic, capable of smacking Reed with considerable power. And while Reed's elasticity gives some serious resistance to blunt force drama, the t-spheres can also deliver electrical shocks powerful enough to KO Captain Nazi, who has approximately the same power level as Captain "Shazam" Marvel.

Random4
06-11-2014, 10:32 AM
1. Reed has more raw intelligence and better scientific feats.

2. Pre-Flashpoint Mister Terrific wins the fight. While his black belts in a dozen martial arts are not directly useful in this fight, he should at least be very capable at dodging around. Meanwhile, his several t-spheres are very fast and metallic, capable of smacking Reed with considerable power. And while Reed's elasticity gives some serious resistance to blunt force drama, the t-spheres can also deliver electrical shocks powerful enough to KO Captain Nazi, who has approximately the same power level as Captain "Shazam" Marvel.

interesting..

big_adventure
06-11-2014, 12:05 PM
Now, if you give Reed 30 seconds to just rifle through his supply closets, the shoe is on the other foot in the fight and Reed stomps trivially. Because the crap lying around Reed lab blow T-Spheres away.

Random4
06-11-2014, 12:20 PM
Now, if you give Reed 30 seconds to just rifle through his supply closets, the shoe is on the other foot in the fight and Reed stomps trivially. Because the crap lying around Reed lab blow T-Spheres away.

mr. terrific just created a new thing usphere that is suppse to be a back up to the human brain quite a feat

what is reed's greatest feats

Snake-eyes
06-11-2014, 12:26 PM
People have been telling you his feats for the past 3 pages, are you even reading the responses?

master of read
06-11-2014, 01:15 PM
People have been telling you his feats for the past 3 pages, are you even reading the responses?

at this point, i'm having doubts myself.

Blackid
06-11-2014, 02:17 PM
Random4 might just be one of those Cleverbots... his name is hinting at his comments...

big_adventure
06-11-2014, 02:20 PM
mr. terrific just created a new thing usphere that is suppse to be a back up to the human brain quite a feat

what is reed's greatest feats

You are kidding, right? There are a dozen feats listed in this thread for the guy, any one of them just play a whole 'nother sport than Holt's nonsense.

How's this - Reed pulled out some belts that made non-fast people into Wally West fast people, with no downside to using them. And they all wore them for weeks in a row, again, with no downside, no charging issues, no problems at all. These things weren't even really a major plot point - they were throw-ins to the dimensional-stabilizing time-travel car and the plan to undo the singularity at the end of reality created by Galactus, who was being used by a crazy-ass Celestial.

That's a mid-tier feat for Reed - it's amazing and all, but it's not remotely the focal point of the comic. It's more like:

Everyone: "We have to do something!"

Reed: "Let's do it!"

Everyone: "As soon as we step off the car-thing, we'll join the frozen masses in the area of insane time dilation."

Reed: "Oh, no biggie, let me check the glovebox ANNND, cool, I packed the Flash-speed belts. Alright, wear these, and things like time dilation that Gladiator struggles with become things for you to ignore."

Pendaran
06-11-2014, 03:20 PM
mr. terrific just created a new thing usphere that is suppse to be a back up to the human brain quite a feat

what is reed's greatest feats

So basically you're going to ignore the feats listed for you while claiming things completely beneath them are remotely impressive by comparison? No, compared to even, say, multiple posts listing things Reed has done from multiple posters, across multiple pages, in this thread, that's basically garbage.

Man, I really hope you are some kind of ad bot at this point.

Guy1
06-11-2014, 03:37 PM
mr. terrific just created a new thing usphere that is suppse to be a back up to the human brain quite a feat

what is reed's greatest feats

MODERATOR

Random4, seriously, people have told you Reed's best feats and have been doing so all thread. I am requesting that you read the posts and come to the conclusion yourself. Mr.Terrific is good, but Reed is much better due to the fact that his science feats completely beat out Terrific's.

Random4
06-12-2014, 02:51 PM
MODERATOR

Random4, seriously, people have told you Reed's best feats and have been doing so all thread. I am requesting that you read the posts and come to the conclusion yourself. Mr.Terrific is good, but Reed is much better due to the fact that his science feats completely beat out Terrific's.
i know but in DCNU holt has awsome feats

master of read
06-12-2014, 03:07 PM
i know but in DCNU holt has awsome feats

none of which match up to reed's feats.

Pendaran
06-12-2014, 04:12 PM
i know but in DCNU holt has awsome feats

Can you explain how any of them are on the scale of what has been provided for Reed, or are you mostly just going to just keep posting one off replies where you try to ignore them as much as possible?

Random4
06-12-2014, 04:40 PM
Can you explain how any of them are on the scale of what has been provided for Reed, or are you mostly just going to just keep posting one off replies where you try to ignore them as much as possible?

T-Spheres, can travel between Dimensios... Uspheres that are like back up human brains.... has like 14 phds...

these are some of terrifics feats

Matt the Manly
06-12-2014, 04:44 PM
Hows that even particularly better than Lex Luthor or Batman

Snake-eyes
06-12-2014, 04:49 PM
T-Spheres, can travel between Dimensios... Uspheres that are like back up human brains.... has like 14 phds...

these are some of terrifics feats

Reed has been able to do that since the 60's.

Seriously, are you going to just keep ignoring people when they post feats?

master of read
06-12-2014, 05:09 PM
T-Spheres, can travel between Dimensios... Uspheres that are like back up human brains.... has like 14 phds...

these are some of terrifics feats

T-spheres dont compare to belts that give people wally west speed.

reed built a device that lets him travel to all other universe, so thats out.

14 phds is nice. call me when holt creates whole need fields of science when he was just a boy.

Pendaran
06-12-2014, 05:39 PM
T-Spheres, can travel between Dimensios... Uspheres that are like back up human brains.... has like 14 phds...

these are some of terrifics feats

Mind used as half the basis for the universe, physical travel to heaven itself, belts that grant the user Flash scale speeds, machines that let him converse with himself all across the multiverse, master cosmic artifacts to the point of using them to restart and heal the multiverse.

So basically Terrific is inferior to Reed in every way as far as intellect?

edit: I mean I get that you're trolling at this point, or at least, man I hope you're trolling at this point, but it's really uncreative.

Guy1
06-12-2014, 05:51 PM
MODERATOR

Random4, seeing as how you are blatantly ignoring feats now, you can cease posting on this thread.

Yeoman
06-12-2014, 05:55 PM
physical travel to heaven itself


To be fair, Doom did most of the work on that one. Reed just figured out the holes in his math.

Also, Reed typically figures out completely alien technology at a glance and masters it within minutes. He's also more or less on Par with Doom, imporving on his designs, including the above mentioned "go to Heaven" machine and a time Machine that outright violates the inherent laws of time travel for the Marvel Universe (Ie: Most time Travel creates alternate time lines. Doom's outright changes history).

Pendaran
06-12-2014, 05:57 PM
To be fair, Doom did most of the work on that one. Reed just figured out the holes in his math.

Doom's machine was for contacting his mother in the afterlife, Reed fixed and upgraded it to the point of allowing travel to Heaven along with Johnny and Sue. That's a wee bit more of an improvement.

moonknight11
06-12-2014, 09:58 PM
Doom's machine was for contacting his mother in the afterlife, Reed fixed and upgraded it to the point of allowing travel to Heaven along with Johnny and Sue. That's a wee bit more of an improvement.

Kind of like taking a radio and turning it into a portal machine.

Random4
06-27-2014, 12:22 PM
so the general consensus seems its Reed>>>>Terrific in terms of scientific feats

Pendaran
06-27-2014, 12:29 PM
And overall intelligence besides, unless you want to continue that whole "I'm going to ignore almost all the posters in this thread and the feats they posted" thing you did for pages and pages, which is apparently worth performing this board's first necromancy.

Rise, kinda terrible thread, rise!

Pendaran
06-27-2014, 12:33 PM
In honour of the return of necromancy to this blighted land, Redferne walks the Earth once more!

Random4
06-27-2014, 12:34 PM
And overall intelligence besides, unless you want to continue that whole "I'm going to ignore almost all the posters in this thread and the feats they posted" thing you did for pages and pages, which is apparently worth performing this board's first necromancy.

Rise, kinda terrible thread, rise!


well the reason i brought this thread up is terrific is doing some cool stuff in the new 52 and now earth 2 storyline....so i wanted to know how that compared to reed

The Drunkard Kid
06-27-2014, 12:37 PM
Mr. Terrific almost certainly knows more about being a good friend, boyfriend, husband or father than Reed.

Keep in mind that I don't know if Terrific ever even had any friends, family, or significant others, but I'm still fairly confident on this matter.

Pendaran
06-27-2014, 12:37 PM
well the reason i brought this thread up is terrific is doing some cool stuff in the new 52 and now earth 2 storyline....so i wanted to know how that compared to reed

You can feel your posts read that way, sure.

master of read
06-27-2014, 12:40 PM
well the reason i brought this thread up is terrific is doing some cool stuff in the new 52 and now earth 2 storyline....so i wanted to know how that compared to reed

has he done anything that is remotely better than what you've posted? no? then no, reed is still better than him.

Slade1
06-27-2014, 01:18 PM
Why won't people let this thread rest in peace?! There is nothing more that can come from it.

master of read
06-27-2014, 01:20 PM
Why won't people let this thread rest in peace?! There is nothing more that can come from it.

apparently, someone still thinks holt can match up to reed, despite evidence to contrary.

Slade1
06-27-2014, 01:24 PM
apparently, someone still thinks holt can match up to reed, despite evidence to contrary.

Maybe this thread needs to be closed so it doesn't pop up every time Holt creates a new gizmo.

Pendaran
06-27-2014, 01:39 PM
Mr. Terrific almost certainly knows more about being a good friend, boyfriend, husband or father than Reed.

Keep in mind that I don't know if Terrific ever even had any friends, family, or significant others, but I'm still fairly confident on this matter.

Let's be real, that's a low bar for anyone outside of Westeros.

big_adventure
06-27-2014, 02:50 PM
Let's be real, that's a low bar for anyone outside of Westeros.

Or slave traders.

Sasuke Uchiha
06-27-2014, 06:32 PM
kind of a lopsided thread, Reed has many many more publishing years behind him, and as a central if not the central character of the entire franchise, he's done everything a sole smart guy can do in his books, while Michael has been a replacement Mr T for much of his time, and wasn't the inventor/know it all Reed was trumped up to be in his team books. Still im no expert on Michael Holt, outside of his appearances in JSA when PG was chairwoman, and his few appearances in Nu52 Worlds Finest, i'm not a huge fan of his.

Acecool
06-27-2014, 09:40 PM
has Reed done anything like Holt has done..

Here is the thing. Galactus talks to Reed and shows him respect. Nuff said.

4746

master of read
06-27-2014, 09:45 PM
so the general consensus seems its Reed>>>>Terrific in terms of scientific feats

looking back on it, you aren't even suppose to be posting on this thread, ever.

Snake-eyes
06-27-2014, 09:49 PM
so the general consensus seems its Reed>>>>Terrific in terms of scientific feats


Since page 1, which you'd know if you hadn't spent the entire thread ignoring feats.

The Drunkard Kid
06-27-2014, 10:02 PM
Here is the thing. Galactus talks to Reed and shows him respect. Nuff said.

4746
That's really oddly lowbrow dialog from Galactus.

"Let me tell you the password to my wifi!"

Shellhead
06-29-2014, 08:01 AM
That's really oddly lowbrow dialog from Galactus.

"Let me tell you the password to my wifi!"

I had to look twice to see if he had a beer on a coaster on one of those chair arms.

Patchmadripoor
06-29-2014, 09:07 AM
I had to look twice to see if he had a beer on a coaster on one of those chair arms.

All this time, you didn't know?

It's the helmet. The ears swivel down and give him the good cosmic stuff.

The Drunkard Kid
06-29-2014, 09:42 AM
All this time, you didn't know?

It's the helmet. The ears swivel down and give him the good cosmic stuff.

Huh. So Galacta is basically a Cosmic Kelly Bundy, then?

master of read
06-29-2014, 09:53 AM
Huh. So Galacta is basically a Cosmic Kelly Bundy, then?


she's cosmic slut?

SuperCooper
06-29-2014, 10:56 AM
T-Spheres, can travel between Dimensios... Uspheres that are like back up human brains.... has like 14 phds...

these are some of terrifics feats

My Dad's got a PhD, but that doesn't mean he's 1/14th as smart as Mr. Terrific.

No offense, pa. You've got other feats.

StupidMoniker
06-30-2014, 04:28 PM
Why is Reed stretching there? It looks like he and Galactus are just chatting, but for some reason he is going with 10 foot arms and legs.

Shellhead
06-30-2014, 07:10 PM
Why is Reed stretching there? It looks like he and Galactus are just chatting, but for some reason he is going with 10 foot arms and legs.

Jim Shooter didn't want to confuse the readers with any sort of subtlety. The guy who can stretch is going to stretch in every scene, so readers will know that he is capable of stretching.

The Drunkard Kid
06-30-2014, 07:50 PM
she's cosmic slut?

No, of course not. She just has to consciously refrain from slobbering all over every man (1) that she meets and got unexpectedly pregnant and didn't know who the father was(2). She's a very nice and respectable lady.


(1) also every woman, animal, chair, etc...

(2) Herself.

The Drunkard Kid
06-30-2014, 07:54 PM
Jim Shooter didn't want to confuse the readers with any sort of subtlety. The guy who can stretch is going to stretch in every scene, so readers will know that he is capable of stretching.

Nonsense. All scientists instinctively try and make themselves look as big as possible when facing people higher on the cosmic food chain than themselves. That's why Beast keeps getting larger mutations whenever he spends time around his divine and Omega+ teammates, Hulk keeps getting bigger forms, Iron Man armors can occasionally become massive, and just everything about Giant-Man.

In fact, the whole Ant-Man thing is just further evidence that Hank Pym is not mentally stable, even for a super-scientist.

Surtur
07-01-2014, 08:16 AM
Are higher dimensions in the DCU automatically impossible reality warping areas, or its that something that's unique to the 5th Dimension? I mean, isn't Qward and the Yellow Lantern home base which they travel to and from easily enough located in the 6th dimension, or am I misremembering something?

I remember at one point it was implied that the higher the dimension you go the more powerful the beings, with 6th dimensional beings supposedly being stronger then those from the 5th, though I don't think this was ever expanded on.

Matt the Manly
07-01-2014, 08:51 AM
I remember at one point it was implied that the higher the dimension you go the more powerful the beings, with 6th dimensional beings supposedly being stronger then those from the 5th, though I don't think this was ever expanded on.

Im pretty sure Batman kicked the shit out of 2 6th dimensional beings

Shellhead
07-01-2014, 10:47 AM
Nonsense. All scientists instinctively try and make themselves look as big as possible when facing people higher on the cosmic food chain than themselves. That's why Beast keeps getting larger mutations whenever he spends time around his divine and Omega+ teammates, Hulk keeps getting bigger forms, Iron Man armors can occasionally become massive, and just everything about Giant-Man.

In fact, the whole Ant-Man thing is just further evidence that Hank Pym is not mentally stable, even for a super-scientist.

I always thought that the Ant-Man to Giant-Man transition was all about Pym's insecurity. His girlfriend Jan had a crush on teammate Thor, so Hank decided that he needed to become bigger than Thor in every physical way.

Speaking of which, that must have been odd for Thor. After a long life as Norse god, battling all kinds of giants in every realm, he finally joins a team of mortal heroes. And one of those heroes almost immediately develops a way to turn himself into a giant at will, and even has the nerve to call himself Giant-Man.

Random4
10-10-2014, 11:11 PM
as of right now who has greater feats reed or terrific?

Pendaran
10-10-2014, 11:49 PM
Based on anything you have ever brought up for Terrific? Reed by a mile. Is there some reason you revived this months dead thread to ask this question that got answered thoroughly, and was mostly drawn out by you deciding to just ignore multiple posts from multiple posters?

Also, other than trolling, why are you posting on a thread you were told to stop posting in?

Random4
10-11-2014, 12:23 AM
Based on anything you have ever brought up for Terrific? Reed by a mile. Is there some reason you revived this months dead thread to ask this question that got answered thoroughly, and was mostly drawn out by you deciding to just ignore multiple posts from multiple posters?

Also, other than trolling, why are you posting on a thread you were told to stop posting in?

i seriously forgot about that...my apologies

i just wanted to see if anything changed in terms of feats if holt has reached reed level

Pendaran
10-11-2014, 12:31 AM
You somehow "forgot about that" several times now.

master of read
10-11-2014, 07:38 AM
da fuck?!

he STILL thinks this is a fight?

The Chou Lives
10-11-2014, 10:56 PM
as of right now who has greater feats reed or terrific?

Ummm Reed.


Big time.


It being usch a curb stomp, and the fact you brought this thing back to life while ignoring others is a no no.

Slade1
10-12-2014, 08:01 AM
This thread should just be locked.