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    12-08-2017, 10:03 AM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Scott and Madelyne's relationship only works if you read her as being Jean reincarnated. Otherwise, Scott comes off like an obsessed creep. How...
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    12-07-2017, 10:20 AM
    Should Emma be forgiven? That'd be up to her victims. She certainly deserves a trial. Magneto got one. So should she.
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    12-07-2017, 10:10 AM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    I loved that mini-series. Some of Lobdell's best work IMO. Gene Ha's art was gorgeous, too. It always irked me that the X-office pretty much...
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    12-07-2017, 09:41 AM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    From the story in question: With Christopher in his arms, Scott goes over to Jean, and they embrace, while Rachel looks on in agony. ‘Look at...
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    12-06-2017, 02:36 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    He'd actually interacted with Rachel a fair amount when they were both X-Men at the same time. He just didn't know that she was his (alt. future...
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    12-06-2017, 02:11 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Canonically, Scott didn't know who Rachel was until Days of Future Present, specifically X-Factor Annual #5. He took the news better than Jean did.
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    12-06-2017, 01:00 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Yes. See the Further Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix mini-series.
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    12-06-2017, 12:58 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Easy: they want to avoid Jott. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Alonso and/or Quesada made Scott's death a prerequisite for the X-office...
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    12-06-2017, 12:51 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Lobdell had Scott confront Corsair about this in Uncanny X-Men #391. Not enough, unfortunately.
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    12-06-2017, 12:49 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Lt. Shea from his First Flight trilogy of novels. I've long suspected that he based Madelyne Pryor in part on his mom.
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    12-05-2017, 08:17 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    After his restoration to adulthood, he was written by Claremont as being physically in his mid-30s. I'm not sure other writers, particularly after...
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    12-05-2017, 08:09 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    When I say "boy scout", I'm referring to who he was circa 1997. After his main character arc was complete, but before the merger with Apocalypse and...
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    12-05-2017, 07:55 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Until Morrison, Emma was generally written as older than the O5, but younger than Xavier/Banshee/Shaw. I always read her as being 40ish with the O5...
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    12-05-2017, 07:41 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    If we're judging Cap and his decision-making in-universe, I think it's irrational to hold him accountable for knowledge he couldn't have possibly had...
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    12-05-2017, 07:16 PM
    It was that or let him die.
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    12-05-2017, 07:09 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Yep. Fair enough.
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    12-05-2017, 07:00 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    I disagree. Up on the Helicarrier with the rest of the Avengers, convinced from the get-go that Cap was wasting his time talking to Scott. ...
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    12-05-2017, 05:21 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    It's directly relevant. The U.S. hadn't recognized Utopia as a sovereign state, and it was sitting right off the coast of California. A significant...
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    12-05-2017, 04:31 PM
    Yep. Six years after the Dark Phoenix Saga, Jean was resurrected and remained a central character of the X-Men franchise up through Morrison's...
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    12-05-2017, 03:20 PM
    In theory, Nate Grey. In practice, Cable. Nate was a more streamlined character with more potential. Ellis and Grant were starting to play with...
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    12-05-2017, 03:09 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Cap's intent was to take her into protective custody, not arrest her for a crime. Given the power of the Phoenix, it wouldn't. Cap hadn't...
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    12-05-2017, 02:48 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Feel free to add me to your Ignore List. Alternatively, if you think you've got a legitimate case, you can request that the mods ban me. You can...
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    12-05-2017, 01:15 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Your analogy doesn't hold. Utopia sat off the coast of San Francisco, and many of its inhabitants--including its leader--were U.S. citizens. Also,...
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    12-05-2017, 12:41 PM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    I am an X-Men fan. I'm even a Cyclops fan (just not of his post-Morrison incarnation). And, I've been both for over 25 years. I've been discussing...
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    12-05-2017, 11:26 AM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    By that point, Cap was choosing a lesser evil. Hope had no desire to rule the world as the P5 were trying to do. She was on board with ending the...
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    12-05-2017, 10:44 AM
    FUBAR007 replied to a thread Cyclops Appreciation in X-Books
    Had Scott been innocently minding his own business, you'd have an argument. They'd already tried talking Scott down multiple times, and it...
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