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  1. We kinda have that now. Mighty Avengers is the...

    We kinda have that now. Mighty Avengers is the Avengers book you want if you're not a fan of Hickman's run. It's a more classic Avengers style book. It's just people are unwilling to try it...
  2. I'll add in, I've loved Hickman's Marvel run as a...

    I'll add in, I've loved Hickman's Marvel run as a whole. My one caveat is that when people say they don't think Hickman is writing a very "Avengers" book, I understand. His Avengers run has been...
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    I totally understand what you're saying here. ...

    I totally understand what you're saying here. IIRC, and I may be wrong, in F4 603 Sol's Anvil actually does kill one of the 4 celestials and knocks out the combined form. That isn't exactly an...
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    Poll: Bendis does a decent job with Ultron prior to Age...

    Bendis does a decent job with Ultron prior to Age of Ultron. The Ultron Imperative (Mighty Avengers Vol 1 1-6?) is fairly good. His Age of Ultron prelude (Avengers vol 4 12.1) is good. Ultron vs...
  5. I have it all digitally too. Good stuff.

    I have it all digitally too. Good stuff.
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    There's an awesome scene in Fraction's Iron Man...

    There's an awesome scene in Fraction's Iron Man run that illustrates what Reed means. It is about issue 4 of Invincible Iron Man I think. Tony and Reed are playing chess on multiple boards when...
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    New Avengers and Avengers have one issue left...

    New Avengers and Avengers have one issue left each. The alien invasion story will likely wrap up here, but the Incursion story and a lot of its threads will go into Secret Wars.
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    Of course with the Starbranded Reed all we have...

    Of course with the Starbranded Reed all we have are suppositions. We see him for is what... a few panels? IIRC he has literally zero dialogue nor do we see him really cut loose with his powers.
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  9. Wait, it isn't that simple. Druid did die in...

    Wait, it isn't that simple. Druid did die in Avengers World but that isn't the end of that story. He is still around thanks to dying in proximity to a City of the Dead. In fact, dying so he could...
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    Considering that's all I'm reading from Marvel...

    Considering that's all I'm reading from Marvel right now, I'm totally fine with that.

    It's also possible that there's an enemy of my enemy thing going here where Steve comes back mad as hell but...
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    If that's your sticking point, it's also pretty...

    If that's your sticking point, it's also pretty easy to handwave. Could be as easy as the Reed Richards Starbrand just sucked. Folks have made the point that he simply may not have been creative...
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    I'd hoped that would play out too before the end,...

    I'd hoped that would play out too before the end, and it still might, but I do seem to recall reading Secret Wars 1 would open with it.

    I too was prepared to be disappointed, but we've seen a lot...
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    The Richard's Starbrand was taken out by the...

    The Richard's Starbrand was taken out by the Celestials, but that doesn't mean much really. Take the world's strongest man and hit him with a bazooka, he goes boom. We assume invulnerability goes...
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    When it comes to the Pantheons, comics have...

    When it comes to the Pantheons, comics have taught me not to count on them at all. They rarely help when you'd want them to do so, and fail when they do help.
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    I do agree, Hickman is giving a Master's class on...

    I do agree, Hickman is giving a Master's class on incorporating in Universe continuity and adaptability. I've enjoyed the heck out of his use of Odinson and Rogers.
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    I agree. Thor finding himself worthy, even if it...

    I agree. Thor finding himself worthy, even if it is at the worst possible moment to find yourself suddenly worthy, was a great moment.

    I haven't said this yet, but I really did enjoy this issue. ...
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    It's early in the FF run, like FF 4 or FF 5. ...

    It's early in the FF run, like FF 4 or FF 5. Three of the Reed Richards come through the Bridge and decide on using Sol's Anvil as a way to get home. One of the Reeds references that they'd used...
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    Beyonders aren't completely all powerful or even...

    Beyonders aren't completely all powerful or even immortal. Hickman establishes they can be beat waaayyyyy back in F4.
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    Not effortlessly. The clear message from Pym is...

    Not effortlessly. The clear message from Pym is that the wipe out of the Cosmic Abstracts took time and the Tribunal took more than one. Also to be clear, the Nihili didn't kill their Beyonder,...
  20. I don't think it becomes a time loop. The...

    I don't think it becomes a time loop. The Reed/Doom destroys his Universe without any prompting from outside his timeline. Franklin and Val put Doom in place to create the new Universe because they...
  21. Except Hickman has been saying this idea has been...

    Except Hickman has been saying this idea has been in the back of his head as long back as Secret Warriors and was clearly planned as the follow up arc to his Forever story in F4. This has been laid...
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    Saw this thread near the top and had to ask this:...

    Saw this thread near the top and had to ask this:

    Suppose Marvel called up and offered you the chance to revisit any storyline in Marvel history with a Secret Wars one shot tie in. What would you...
  23. See, Beast may think that, but again we have seen...

    See, Beast may think that, but again we have seen whole Universes die before. As I pointed out, it happens in F4 605.1. It happens in the Ultimate Galactus Trilogy. I'd argue Age of Ultron's...
  24. This part doesn't work. Destroying a Universe...

    This part doesn't work. Destroying a Universe using the Phoenix Force wouldn't be enough to start the collapse. Ultimate Reed Richards destroyed a universe to power his Ultimate Nullifier back in...
  25. FF Fantastic Four 605.1 (written by Hickman so...

    FF Fantastic Four 605.1 (written by Hickman so likely very relevant) shows a Doom/Richards hybrid get ahold of his universe's Infinity Gauntlet. He is opposed by his universe's Avengers, loses...
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