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    Actually, if you look at the page before the one...

    Actually, if you look at the page before the one where Tony tells Namor "Leave, now!", you'll see that he told Namor "Get out of here, Namor" after the T'Challa vs Namor fight and Namor's statement...
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    You're mixing up different things. First, and as...

    You're mixing up different things. First, and as it's been explained repeatedly, it is better to have billions die than trillions of trillions die. Second, everything was "going to end" eventually...
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    Yes they did. This was mentioned by the...

    Yes they did. This was mentioned by the characters in one of the first issues (I think prior/during the alt-Galactus & alt-Terrax incursion). It was followed by a comment saying it would probably...
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    One planet is missing in each of the two...

    One planet is missing in each of the two universes permanently saved from incursions by Namor, which is a whole lot better than the two universes in their entirety being gone (+ the 616-universe)....
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    Each time he destroys an Earth during an...

    Each time he destroys an Earth during an incursion, that Earth's universe is permanently saved from the incursions (although its end will still come sooner than normal) and the other universe lives...
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    I can't believe you just replied to me with a...

    I can't believe you just replied to me with a solicitation spoiler after I specifically said earlier in the thread that I wanted to avoid solicitation spoilers :D

    In any case, I don't think it was...
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    No, they faced the Mapmakers' sidera maris, not...

    No, they faced the Mapmakers' sidera maris, not the Mapmakers themselves. We saw Mapmakers face another Earth's Illuminati and win (although Doom killed one of them), and face the GS and lose. And...
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    I thought I'd make a list of still dangling...

    I thought I'd make a list of still dangling peripheral plot threads, with issue numbers. Anyone who wants to contribute is welcome to do so - I'll update this as we go.

    - NA #8: we see the body of...
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    From a reader's perspective, we haven't seen much...

    From a reader's perspective, we haven't seen much of them looking for other solutions, and I completely share your frustration at seeing them give up entirely (like I said, I think that's completely...
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    Actually, we do see the Illuminati try to...

    Actually, we do see the Illuminati try to find/come up with other options. They were simply unsuccessful in doing so.
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    I know that Strange as a Black Priest is what...

    I know that Strange as a Black Priest is what looks likely given his departure with the helmet and the November solicitations, but I'm hoping it's a bit more subtle than that. For example, he could...
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    The Illuminati tried finding an option 3 but...

    The Illuminati tried finding an option 3 but didn't. You can argue they should have found one all you want, but that's what's in the book. So I'm addressing the situation in the book, namely the...
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    Then blame Hickman, but don't deny the facts of...

    Then blame Hickman, but don't deny the facts of the story as it's been told ,-)
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    You can disagree with what the correct choice is,...

    You can disagree with what the correct choice is, but you can't disagree with the facts I presented about the consequences of each choice. When it comes to what you have control over (i.e. not the...
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    Yes, but that's a different discussion. You can...

    Yes, but that's a different discussion. You can replace Earth 2 by Earth 1 in my post if you'd like. The point is that it is justified to destroy one Earth to save two universes if the only...
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    Ok, the false analogies and misrepresentations of...

    Ok, the false analogies and misrepresentations of the incursion problem are starting to get annoying, so I thought I'd write a detailed post presenting the moral dilemma faced by the characters, just...
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    No, I hadn't read the solicitations and I don't...

    No, I hadn't read the solicitations and I don't intend to. Why not use spoiler tags? I distinctively remember other people asking for the same thing in a past thread. If I'm alone in this, nvm.
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    Do you guys have to spoil future plot elements?...

    Do you guys have to spoil future plot elements? Without even using spoiler tags?
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    By the way, let's not forget that we saw Strange...

    By the way, let's not forget that we saw Strange teleport to somewhere thirty seconds prior to the incursion, and that he wasn't at the meeting with the other Illuminati to discuss their survival.
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    Agreed. I love the scope of this book, but I hate...

    Agreed. I love the scope of this book, but I hate the way Hickman is portraying many of the Illuminati. There is absolutely no way Reed is going to completely give up even trying to find a solution,...
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    I completely agree with this.

    I completely agree with this.
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    Poll: Actually, no, it's not "really just the old...

    Actually, no, it's not "really just the old trolley problem writ large". The reason is that in the trolley problem, it's five people vs a different single person. The two groups (one of five people...
  23. That lasted quite a while, though ,-)

    That lasted quite a while, though ,-)
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    I agree with your view.

    I agree with your view.
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    Well, you thought wrong :p It was an instruction...

    Well, you thought wrong :p It was an instruction given after a specific hijack code, meaning that the suit had to follow it. Stark could perhaps have incorporated a counter-hijack code, but...
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