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    When was this? In Superman, he threw a missile...

    When was this? In Superman, he threw a missile into space. Superman 2 started with that missile freeing the Phantom Zone people, and that's it. Superman 3 had him running from surface to air missiles...
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    According to intent/the script, Chris' Superman...

    According to intent/the script, Chris' Superman got those weird powers in Superman 2 due to using Kryptonian tech, but it was never explained IN the actual movie so you can take it as you will.
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    He also had a hand beam thing.

    He also had a hand beam thing.
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    I'll just call the older one PC sups for the sake...

    I'll just call the older one PC sups for the sake of the thread and presentation.

    PC Sups is stronger (he pushes the moon as his top strength feat)
    PC Sups is fast enough to catch bullets easily...
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    Snyder's original script before it got chopped up...

    Snyder's original script before it got chopped up like crazy by the studio had a much longer plot and section of Superman's resurrection among a lot of other things (the whole movie centered around...
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    I come from a kind of different angle; I went to...

    I come from a kind of different angle; I went to art school and care more about composition and meaning and cinematography and score and how visuals tell a story and subtext as opposed to funny...
  7. The entire MCU and Fox cinematic universe (heroes) vs. DC cinematic Superman

    Justice League spoilers ahead.

    After running it through my head a bit after seeing Justice League, I can't come up with a convincing way in which the Marvel/Fox universe heroes can take out a...
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    Firstly, because it's not a more powerful...

    Firstly, because it's not a more powerful explosion. If the floating city was vaporized or something, it would be, but it wasn't.

    From the movie itself, the floating city had a vibranium core....
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    Wait, what? We know it was an ICBM launched from...

    Wait, what? We know it was an ICBM launched from the U.S. They probably would have used the strongest (450ish) but we can use the weakest (100). That's like asking "what, exactly, type of grenade is...
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    On top of that the Sokovia blast specifically was...

    On top of that the Sokovia blast specifically was created to make the material inside unstable and break it apart. And Thor was somewhere on top of the island when it happened (as was Iron Man).
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    Hell, I'll do the research of the ICBMs in...

    Hell, I'll do the research of the ICBMs in current usage by the U.S.

    Minuteman 3 (which that likely was, by presentation) - 170 kilotons.
    Trident 3 - 100 or 475kt

    So pick one. The lowest is...
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    And as I stated, the standard payload rendered in...

    And as I stated, the standard payload rendered in ICBMs by the U.S. should be more than fair to gauge the missile by, in similar ways that we use pretty standard bullet speeds for handguns and...
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    Standard modern nukes used by the U.S. government...

    Standard modern nukes used by the U.S. government now are 80X more powerful than that used on Hiroshima, so that would be a decent guesstimation for it now. I mean, bombs have been created that are...
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    I remember the Thor v. Superman arguments, and...

    I remember the Thor v. Superman arguments, and most people were saying that Superman was more durable than Thor (point blank nuke to the face after a fight where he was nearly killed and exposed to...
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    Counterpoint - current Vulcan is space debris...

    Counterpoint - current Vulcan is space debris floating around, which will just take Zod time to demolish.
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    A clone ceases to be you the moment it separates...

    A clone ceases to be you the moment it separates from you. You are in different places at the same time, so your experiences shift from that point on. Even the show gets into this.
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    Because the prompt says he is PERSONALLY killing...

    Because the prompt says he is PERSONALLY killing everyone, which sounds like the intent of going one by one and killing people hands on in some kind of way, instead of bringing duplicates (which are...
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    I remember him getting from Europe to the U.S. as...

    I remember him getting from Europe to the U.S. as a one-off feat and one lightning feat that was way faster than he ever moved otherwise, which isn't high end consistent. He's all over the place, but...
  19. Do we grant Kars his laser dodging feat? That's...

    Do we grant Kars his laser dodging feat? That's the kicker.
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    I see this sentiment shared a lot, with IT and...

    I see this sentiment shared a lot, with IT and with Freddy, and I get confused because in both instances, they were beaten by magic and in many cases outside interference from other powers. And in...
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    He dodged a bullet after it touched his skin...

    He dodged a bullet after it touched his skin ONCE. Not sure if that's an outlier or not.
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    We don't have to launch a nuke to explode a nuke....

    We don't have to launch a nuke to explode a nuke. Flash outran an explosion when he saw it coming, if I can recall, not by surprise. And we have oceans that he needs to cross, and he does get tired. ...
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    Nah, Buu didn't try to fight back at all, thought...

    Nah, Buu didn't try to fight back at all, thought it was fun, and wanted to keep "playing." It's not "dominating" when a guy isn't fighting back.
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    I was mostly making a side point there, not...

    I was mostly making a side point there, not disagreeing with you specifically.
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    Midichlorians aren't a scientific approach to the...

    Midichlorians aren't a scientific approach to the Force. It's literally explained that midichlorians are drawn to people with more Force, and they figured out to measure those people with...
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