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  1. Somewhere along the line I think I phrased it...

    Somewhere along the line I think I phrased it wrong. But yeah it wasn't the fact that he punch a cop but the fact that he was playing into Binghamton's hands. That's why he felt shame.



    Yeah I...
  2. Lol whoa relax, I'm not saying I think this for...

    Lol whoa relax, I'm not saying I think this for myself. I'm just saying that it's something that might seriously be considered by Clark during this arc if my interpretations of the descriptions for...
  3. I got it! Issue #45 will be what if more and more...

    I got it! Issue #45 will be what if more and more of the world is being tempted and corrupted (not unlike our own) and the idea of justice changes and Superman is the target because of this. It get's...
  4. You're overlooking the fact that Binghamton...

    You're overlooking the fact that Binghamton essentially had a 'gun" to the collective head of everyone on Clark's block. People could have gotten killed (cops and civilians alike) and Clark wouldn't...
  5. Why are you so hung up on how hard he did or...

    Why are you so hung up on how hard he did or didn't punch him? The fallout I'm speaking of is that of Binghamton spinning the situation so that it was somehow Superman's fault completely, and that...
  6. It's such a cool idea! Even when he's actually...

    It's such a cool idea! Even when he's actually Superman he still think "I can still do better". I remember it was really getting to him during Doomed (closer to the end and a lot at the start) and...
  7. Well to address it a little more I'd rationalize...

    Well to address it a little more I'd rationalize it as Superman not having to worry about anyone outside of himself and maybe his super strong girlfriend having to deal with the retaliation of the...
  8. Lol oh my apologies then. Yeah I agree with you...

    Lol oh my apologies then. Yeah I agree with you 100%. Pak's Superman take is really quite interesting especially when he puts Superman in these sorts of situations (Pak's Superman is due for a mental...
  9. Wow I hadn't even thought of that. Nice catch! ...

    Wow I hadn't even thought of that. Nice catch!



    Do you mean me? I hope you guys didn't take my writing on Superman punching the cop as how I felt about it. No! Dear lord NO! I nearly jumped up...
  10. I'm only speaking from the confines of this run...

    I'm only speaking from the confines of this run and this issue. How other continuities or even other books handle the character doesn't really hold much weight in the confines of this book unless...
  11. This was my favorite part of the issue. It took...

    This was my favorite part of the issue. It took me a second pass over to even get it fully to be honest with you. I had this "oh sh!t, did Greg Pak just get all meta on me" moment that made me smile...
  12. But he would think twice about stoking the fires...

    But he would think twice about stoking the fires of an already tender situation (like a riot). It wasn't just punching a bad cop out.



    But I think the issues are still dealing with that stuff...
  13. Likely because he didn't want to be just another...

    Likely because he didn't want to be just another person in the crowd throwing punches because they were mad, scared, and confused. Superman "called in his chips" and put it on everyone at the riot...
  14. Yes but the point isn't how hard he did or didn't...

    Yes but the point isn't how hard he did or didn't hit Binghamton, but the fact that he punched out a cop at all. Superman himself said that Binghamton being a shadow monster was just an out and he...
  15. "Blame it all on the monster" Action comics #43 (focused discussion)

    Okay so I know Action Comics #44 is coming out in no time at all, but I'd like to take a step back and look at a very specific idea in issue #43. The idea I'm talking about is obviously the fact that...
  16. Oh okay I see. Thanks a lot for sharing. I really...

    Oh okay I see. Thanks a lot for sharing. I really appreciate the insight.



    It's interesting that you both bring up Superman as being this "authority" or this "commanding" figure. That usually...
  17. See part of me understands because there are some...

    See part of me understands because there are some inherent risk to allowing the creative teams to express themselves more, but I think the reward outweighs the risk for the most part. I also think...
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    I'd like to see some retooling to him. I like...

    I'd like to see some retooling to him. I like your idea of him being not a villain but someone who opposes Superman. How about we go the 100% on his senator/political guy idea that the new 52 has....
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    I've just always thought of Thunderbolt Ross and...

    I've just always thought of Thunderbolt Ross and how he does a better job at this as a character when ever I hear Sam Lane. Marvel's even bringing him back for Civil War to play the part of the mad...
  20. I personally think that's just about the worst...

    I personally think that's just about the worst way to go about it with Superman. However make no mistake, I don't agree with the idea of "superstar creator" being the draw. Superman Unchained was...
  21. That's because they didn't write him as a...

    That's because they didn't write him as a particularly interesting guy. Their definition of "just a guy" was only narrow and unimaginative. The Sliver Age wrote him as just a guy all the time. He had...
  22. Agreed! I know right! DC asleep at the...

    Agreed!



    I know right! DC asleep at the wheel lol
  23. Ah and therein lies the issue with the 30 to 40...

    Ah and therein lies the issue with the 30 to 40 something take: he just ends just ends up looking like Superdad. But I'd argue (pretty passionately actually) that it's part of is appeal. The thing is...
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    Thanks! Hmm that does sound like it could...

    Thanks!



    Hmm that does sound like it could be interesting. The Twilight Zone spin sounds really interesting.
  25. I can appreciate that quite a bit (thanks for...

    I can appreciate that quite a bit (thanks for sharing btw). Ideally I don't really see him as a young 20 something either. I think it's a really fun take and has yet to really take flight (so to...
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