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  1. in what way? is it sort of a self-referential...

    in what way? is it sort of a self-referential hand-wave acknowledgement? or do they actually deal with the consequences?

    i'd love to see a writer tackle the real-world impact that a heavenly...
  2. cool, glad to have a rambling partner. ...

    cool, glad to have a rambling partner.

    majority of folklore and myth that i know of are a bit different to franchise fiction, more like hand-me-downs than one long continuation. king arthur gets...
  3. MoS, an example of misuse for me would still be...

    MoS, an example of misuse for me would still be “old man logan”. i like dystopian futures, so i borrowed a copy from a mate and the story left me deflated. the gruesomeness and death-toll seemed to...
  4. i'll just back away slowly then

    i'll just back away slowly then
  5. mmmmmmmmmmmmm

    mmmmmmmmmmmmm
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    I’m somewhat interested in alt Ben’s romantic...

    I’m somewhat interested in alt Ben’s romantic history, but I’m also curious about some of the other contrivances his version of the MU went through. I’m assuming the Aunt May that died in his...
  7. My outsider perspective on all this is that Pav...

    My outsider perspective on all this is that Pav is making great points from a literary and industry point of view, something I think most writers, producers, directors, critics and analysts would...
  8. i tend to measure success in terms of achieving a...

    i tend to measure success in terms of achieving a goal. you could say that the joint goal for the writer, fans and publisher was to keep the spider-girl alive. in that way it was unsuccessful.

    the...
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    it's nice seeing ben again. i'm interested to see...

    it's nice seeing ben again. i'm interested to see how he might have progressed from the 90's version and what his take on the 616 universe would be. in some ways, this is more interesting than...
  10. but...whether wizard survived the mass decline of...

    but...whether wizard survived the mass decline of print media in the 21st century has nothing to do with the--ah--you know what? don't worry about it.

    you seem to be reacting to my term...
  11. cheers zevad. defalco’s dialogue and plotting...

    cheers zevad.

    defalco’s dialogue and plotting was out of step even in the 90s (i remember good ol’ wizard mag taking a few swipes at the time) and he was never my personal cup of tea. not...
  12. i'll let you know right now that i've lived...

    i'll let you know right now that i've lived through a miscarriage. but my personal life and your personal life have nothing to do with a discussion on fiction, mate.

    it was a sub-plot and it was...
  13. The two aren’t comparable. Claremont redefined...

    The two aren’t comparable. Claremont redefined the concept of the X-men. It’s safe to say the entire mythos was changed by him and the X-men would not be what they are today without his contribution....
  14. yes, this would be the point.

    yes, this would be the point.
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    i really liked leonardi's work on the original...

    i really liked leonardi's work on the original run, but here it seemed sloppy.
  16. some responses to what i’ve read saying that x...

    some responses to what i’ve read

    saying that x happened in a story because a writer wants/loves/hates y is an unprovable statement and really nothing more than projecting personal prejudices on to...
  17. thanks for the recommendations, if i'm feeling...

    thanks for the recommendations, if i'm feeling good about the whole superhero thing again after spider-verse, i'll grab some tpbs. i'll admit that when i first heard that he'd introduced the totem...
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    she's in both.

    she's in both.
  19. it depends on how i feel after spiderverse. i've...

    it depends on how i feel after spiderverse. i've heard a lot of great things about the JMS era, and i've heard a lot of complaints. but then...that's pretty much every story isn't it?

    would you...
  20. nah, i was kidding MoS. from what i've seen,...

    nah, i was kidding MoS. from what i've seen, that's not your style. you're pretty fair.

    what i've read of spiderverse so far seems to have more balance than "old man logan", which was one bleak...
  21. i know what you mean- at the time there was a...

    i know what you mean- at the time there was a huge backlash of horrified children and parents. now, all of those grown fans consider it a classic of sorts and that is partly due to the sudden...
  22. i think it's all context cyberhubs. the...

    i think it's all context cyberhubs. the transformer cartoon is an example i was thinking of too...that was mostly an order from on high for merchandising reasons. so while it may not have been for...
  23. so would that mean my tastes are suspect if i was...

    so would that mean my tastes are suspect if i was a fan of that story? ha. as i said, i've been away from comics for a long time so i don't know this story. the last big slaughter type story i read...
  24. hollywood films are notoriously safe. character...

    hollywood films are notoriously safe. character growth over the length of a franchise is risky- you risk alienating what people liked about the first one. the rule of thumb seems to be- if it was...
  25. spider-verse's plot formula seems to be...

    spider-verse's plot formula seems to be essentially the same as watchmen's. that doesn't make it uninteresting or bad in a literary sense, but i can also understand people not having a taste for it....
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