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  1. I'd say that in many Secret Service agents that...

    I'd say that in many Secret Service agents that sense of duty stems from love of country, whether or not they love a particular president. But in 30, Aleka describes their motive for facing Hera not...
  2. And I did and do recognize that. They're loving...

    And I did and do recognize that. They're loving towards each other--and that's what Diana saw and learned from day in and day out. She certainly didn't learn kindness towards ousiders from their...
  3. I'll say again that Hippolyta's way of bringing...

    I'll say again that Hippolyta's way of bringing up her daughter, based on what we saw, modeled Diana's understanding of love as based on "submission" or "faith in the strength of another" (as she...
  4. Right--and Diana observed people being pretty...

    Right--and Diana observed people being pretty kind and respectful, since she only observed Amazons interacting with Amazons, not with outsiders, for most of her life. She probably did hear Amazons...
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    Maybe, but I think the real issue is that it's...

    Maybe, but I think the real issue is that it's hard to please WW's hardcore fans without repulsing most comics fans, and vice versa. For instance, whereas a dark, violent Batman can please both...
  6. I was thinking of the first post on the thread,...

    I was thinking of the first post on the thread, where you paraphrased Azz and Chiang as saying "I know that they said they didn't want to do any research." But I'm glad we agree that there's evidence...
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    Poll: That is correct, sir. Of course it...

    That is correct, sir.



    Of course it doesn't. But it doesn't need to not have it, either. It's one word, and not really very consequential either way. The amazing thing is that we've spent so...
  8. I think what they said was that they didn't want...

    I think what they said was that they didn't want to get too deep into the continuity and details of any particular prior run--not that they didn't do nay research into the character's history at all....
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    Poll: Give me a little credit for giving you a little...

    Give me a little credit for giving you a little credit, Awonder. I knew you weren't blaming WW for how she's written. It goes without saying that the creators make the choices for the characters.
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    Poll: I do dismiss it as evidence that "WW was starting...

    I do dismiss it as evidence that "WW was starting to put up with Orion's behavior and has accepted being called by a bodypart," as chlj1 claims, because I just do not think you can blame someone...
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    Poll: We don't always have to talk about only what's on...

    We don't always have to talk about only what's on the page; I just want to be clear about what's on the page and what isn't (whether it's speculation, or ancient mythology, or interviews, or...
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    Poll: That panel, which I mentioned a couple of posts...

    That panel, which I mentioned a couple of posts ago, is from issue 21, so it's consistent with my point that he doesn't (as far as I can remember or find) call her Legs after issue 21 and before 34. ...
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    Poll: Awonder, That was a clever, funny post. So...

    Awonder,

    That was a clever, funny post. So pardon me for trying to break it down. I guess I'm just feeling ornery. :)



    This is true. But we don't know whether Orion would have been written...
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    Poll: This isn't accurate. I can think of at least...

    This isn't accurate. I can think of at least three times when she protests his disrespectful treatment of her; she protests his "cute when you're angry comment" by saying "ugh," turning her back on...
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    It could also be because the writer doesn't...

    It could also be because the writer doesn't expect the Aka to comprise a large portion of his audience. Why should the writer tell us, the audience, what someone else could learn from us? We might...
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    Poll: To "catch" an innuendo doesn't mean what you seem...

    To "catch" an innuendo doesn't mean what you seem to want it to mean; it does not mean to like the innuendo or find it attractive or appealing. It just means to notice it and understand what's...
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    Poll: I certainly agree it's not what most women would...

    I certainly agree it's not what most women would do, or what anyone should do in our reality. It might be what someone raised in a warrior culture would do when she needs to teach another warrior...
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    Poll: He's not her love interest. She makes quite clear...

    He's not her love interest. She makes quite clear to him in 17 that she will not be treated with disrespect. When he comes back in 22, he tells her not to call her "baby" (because she thinks he's...
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    Is Dessa being dishonest with Diana? I don't...

    Is Dessa being dishonest with Diana? I don't think we've seen that the Amazon's are truly in revolt yet though a couple of them, at least, may be headed that way. After issue 31, I'll be disappointed...
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    By this logic, why wouldn't I think that the...

    By this logic, why wouldn't I think that the reason you disliked Azz's run is that (as you mentioned recently) you loved Odyssey? I don't actually think that, by the way; I assume the reasons that...
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    Around here? About as many people as those who...

    Around here? About as many people as those who aren't aware that you did not appreciate his run.




    No--but though your post that I responded to started with a claim about people who joined the...
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    I'm sure you honestly think it deserves it, but...

    I'm sure you honestly think it deserves it, but how can even you know if you would have felt the same way if the book came out right after Jiminez? You don't even have to know this; your opinion is...
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    If I were thinking of people had said so...

    If I were thinking of people had said so outright, I probably would have said "are," not "may." But, just as you "find it hard to imagine" that people first drawn to WW by Azz would like this run, I...
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    Poll: It might have been. But it didn't happen. I...

    It might have been. But it didn't happen.

    I respect your passion about this, but I'm wondering: Do you realize that, whatever Azzarello's original intentions, "pairing Orion with WW," romantically...
  25. Yes it is. Thanks for posting it, SonofBaldwin....

    Yes it is. Thanks for posting it, SonofBaldwin. It's really observant of small but salient details, and makes a great case even for some criticisms with which I don't necessarily agree.

    I thought...
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