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  1. Let's keep it on topic, please.

    Let's keep it on topic, please.
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    Please remember this is a discussion of the...

    Please remember this is a discussion of the Preview, not the entire book.

    Feel free to start a separate, spoiler marked discussion on the entire issue :)
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    Hmm....but where are the bracelets...

    Hmm....but where are the bracelets...
  4. Having spent some time this weekend with Christie...

    Having spent some time this weekend with Christie Marston, she told me how untrue much of Jill Lepore's book is, which is why I admit I'm amused by the award.

    Her article linked here shows a...
  5. This article does a good job of summing up my...

    This article does a good job of summing up my point of view and why I see the change of origin as a problem.

    http://www.themarysue.com/wonder-woman-paternal-narrative/
  6. Okay, let's not debate the definition of 'public...

    Okay, let's not debate the definition of 'public domain' since we all know what is meant by the OP.

    Back on topic, please.
  7. And now I'm going to put on the official hat. ...

    And now I'm going to put on the official hat.

    1. Stay on topic.
    2. Don't make this personal. No psycho-analyzing other posters or challenging them on personal beliefs that have nothing to do...
  8. Because it was 3000 years ago, because it was...

    Because it was 3000 years ago, because it was based on a myth, and because society, especially in the US, is just a bit different today.

    I will, however, point out that there are women's shelters...
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    I just don't know if I want to see a...

    I just don't know if I want to see a remake/reboot.

    I loved the first four seasons (not a fan of the fifth), but with so many of the original cast gone (Richard Biggs, Andreas Katsulas, Jeff...
  10. Hmm...I think you are missing the point, and no,...

    Hmm...I think you are missing the point, and no, I'm not going to get into a 'what would Gaelforce approve of in real life.'

    The Amazons, myth, were women. They isolated themselves 3000 years...
  11. I was sort of...disagreeing with it? ;)

    I was sort of...disagreeing with it? ;)
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    Peggy Carter was created as a love interest for...

    Peggy Carter was created as a love interest for Steve Rogers; a supporting cast member in his book since the 1960s. Betty was created as Bruce's love interest. Pepper was part of Tony's supporting...
  13. If there isn't going to be a fundamental change...

    If there isn't going to be a fundamental change and if he does remember everything he did and is simply acting on them with full recollection and intelligence...

    Then what was the point of the...
  14. When Hera arrives on Themyscira, she is treated...

    When Hera arrives on Themyscira, she is treated with great respect by Hippolyta who kneels, refers to her as 'Queen Hera, my goddess' and Hera refers to herself as the goddess of 'all women.' It's...
  15. I think it's more realistic to show a mix of...

    I think it's more realistic to show a mix of reactions and not paint an entire society with one brush.

    What I find immensely unrealistic is that 3x a century for 30 centuries (and possibly more...
  16. Yet in over 230 years, there hasn't *been* a...

    Yet in over 230 years, there hasn't *been* a female President in the U.S. The fact that, for the Amazons, 3000 years later and women are still a tiny minority among men in positions of power just...
  17. They were tricked, imprisoned, enslaved, beaten,...

    They were tricked, imprisoned, enslaved, beaten, and raped.

    They escaped but in doing so killed their captors and so were sent to Themyscira to guard the Gate to Tartarus as punishment.

    Meaning...
  18. It isn't so much the 'coming from clay' as it is...

    It isn't so much the 'coming from clay' as it is the intentional creation of Diana as an act of the love of her mother.

    Again, as a comparison - Jor-El creates a rocket for his family, loads in...
  19. This isn't a judgement on Diana, it's a judgement...

    This isn't a judgement on Diana, it's a judgement on the focus of a fictional story, which is very far from real life.

    The focus of Diana's origin was initially all about Diana and her mother's...
  20. The clay origin to me was important on several...

    The clay origin to me was important on several levels, most importantly is the mother-daughter bond. Hippolyta longed for a child, and so she sculpted one and prayed that the gods grant her this...
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    I think one of the prime reasons the forced...

    I think one of the prime reasons the forced romance/mother figure is a problem for me is simple.

    It's all we ever seem to get.

    Take GotG for example. Gamora. The most lethal woman in the...
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    Let's dial it down a notch, folks. Several posts...

    Let's dial it down a notch, folks. Several posts have been deleted and next time bans will follow.

    The snark, personal commentary and attitude in some posts was a bit over the top.
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    Folks, Please be careful of book spoilers,...

    Folks,

    Please be careful of book spoilers, especially now that the show has veered so far off the book path (making it far too easy to inadvertently point out 'that didn't happen in the books...
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    Sorry, I believe I either misspoke or you...

    Sorry, I believe I either misspoke or you misinterpreted ;)

    I don't believe she is saying barren=monster. I'm just saying that throughout the films, she went from hard edged assassin to...
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    I agree with him except for the part about...

    I agree with him except for the part about Natasha wanting to be a mother. If that scene stood by itself (her and Banner and her sterility confession), I'd agree with you. But add in that she's the...
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