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  1. No kidding. The guy could negate the Infinity...

    No kidding. The guy could negate the Infinity Gauntlet. If he was killed by The Destroyer, then that hints at something truly dangerous.
  2. I'm thinking the fact the Abstracts disappeared...

    I'm thinking the fact the Abstracts disappeared is a symptom of the collapse and the fact the Universe is dying. That or The Great Destroyer decided to remove them from play so as to prevent them...
  3. Reread this. It's nothing of the sort. Even for...

    Reread this. It's nothing of the sort. Even for Future Franklin this isn't resolved yet due to how the Incursions work.

    Over in the Fantastic Four they've explained that due to Franklin's...
  4. We don't know what pulled the number down to 20...

    We don't know what pulled the number down to 20 ish universes yet. But We can extrapolate from stuff said before that once the multiversal collapse got to a certain point the heat death of...
  5. Wow that was a lot of answers. The big one for...

    Wow that was a lot of answers. The big one for me personally is that this issue shows destroying your own Earth won't save you or really buy you time. The other Universes are gone before the end...
  6. My suspicion is that Fantastic Four 611 is in the...

    My suspicion is that Fantastic Four 611 is in the collection because of where it left Valeria, and not Doom. Valeria has a bigger role to play than we've seen.
  7. A lot of Hickman's stuff will indeed factory in. ...

    A lot of Hickman's stuff will indeed factory in. Of his 616 stuff, Fantastic Four has had a lot of the seeds of what happened in Avengers and should be read going into Secret Wars. Manifold is...
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    J. Hickman's New Avengers and Avengers run, along...

    J. Hickman's New Avengers and Avengers run, along with Secret Wars. If you want you can toss in Avenger's World as the first 14 issues cover what is clearly a lost story set after Infinity but...
  9. I have a lot of faith that Secret War itself will...

    I have a lot of faith that Secret War itself will be awesome. Hickman is a good writer and he's been laying seeds for this all along. He's worked hard to set up something awesome.

    As for the...
  10. I think all this talk about whether the past of...

    I think all this talk about whether the past of these destroyed universes exist misses the point: every model of the universe currently running demonstrates space and time are not seperate things. ...
  11. The Space Time object could be destroyed (past...

    The Space Time object could be destroyed (past and future no longer available) and cast a shadow in some other way that could be observed. Attempting to time travel to the past of a universe would...
  12. The incursion can destroy the universe as a whole...

    The incursion can destroy the universe as a whole and still leave behind a shadow effect after the death. Again what Franklin and the Infinite Avengers story as a whole implies is that space time...
  13. ...and that's the mystery we are left with. What...

    ...and that's the mystery we are left with. What exactly was he afraid of? He mentions the timeline is running short, possibly implying that Thanos has determined the Multiverse has very nearly...
  14. Observe and visit are two different things. ...

    Observe and visit are two different things. That's what I think we're struggling with here. You are right, with a time machine I could visit the star, but I don't have one. and with our...
  15. Again, they didn't come from another Universe,...

    Again, they didn't come from another Universe, but from the inbetween place the Council was located in. It's a subtle point but it is an important one. We know the bridge can take you out to the...
  16. Two possibilities, both meta: 1. The Crystal...

    Two possibilities, both meta:

    1. The Crystal will play a role in at least part of the Cabal showing back up. Given how Maximus was speaking of it it's possible it could be some sort of failsafe....
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    This was a smart win by the heroes. Fighting the...

    This was a smart win by the heroes. Fighting the Cabal head on would have resulted in losses the Earth can't afford right now.

    I do not think we've seen the last of Black Swan. She's a survivor...
  18. We've never seen the Bridge used to travel to...

    We've never seen the Bridge used to travel to another dimension, only to inbetween places. The Bridge is primarily a research and observation tool.

    Also, I don't find the idea of an after image...
  19. No, I don't see that. This was always the arc...

    No, I don't see that. This was always the arc Namor was heading down and he was always going to have that ending. I don't believe this is motivated by studio issues. It was very much story driven....
  20. No, this argument is flawed. The stars we see...

    No, this argument is flawed. The stars we see may not exist as we just see their light. Many of them are likely dead and gone. A similar thing was happening in the bridge issues. They saw the...
  21. Hickman has said fairly publicly how much he...

    Hickman has said fairly publicly how much he loved Secret Warriors and it was a heck of a book. I really love it. The problem was he had a 60 issue outline of plot that came down to about 30ish...
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    Bucky's been explained as he was taken in and out...

    Bucky's been explained as he was taken in and out of cryo-freeze during the Cold War. Black Widow is a bigger issue as she is now tied into being born prior to Cap being frozen and then active...
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    I'm going to chime in here and say that for me...

    I'm going to chime in here and say that for me too, Secret Warriors is among my favorite runs. My one piece of advice to someone reading it is this: At some point before the "Night" arc, read the...
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    Picked this up on a lark. It is fun. There's a...

    Picked this up on a lark. It is fun. There's a lot of potential here if it really is going to have Colson mix and matching the heroes. This could be a really awesome marvel team up book.
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    Yes they will.

    Yes they will.
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