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    It's hard to say; since he didn't really do that,...

    It's hard to say; since he didn't really do that, there's no way to know how it would have turned out. The downside, I think, is that the book might have lost a little focus if it had tried to do...
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    Oh, I see what you're saying. I just don't agree....

    Oh, I see what you're saying. I just don't agree.



    It's not so much causative as it is definitional. War-like ferocity was, culturally, a defining trait of men; it was a big part of what the...
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    It's a fair question, and I do think that without...

    It's a fair question, and I do think that without the backstory in which Zeus rips the Firstbor from Hera's arms, something important would be missing. But, what would be missing? I don't think it...
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    I don't think that the Amazons' ancient...

    I don't think that the Amazons' ancient motivations were, or needed to be, "the point"; I found it pretty much a given, deep in the background, that an all-female society in a patriarchal world felt...
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    double post

    double post
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    Nothing wrong with masculinity as such. But by...

    Nothing wrong with masculinity as such. But by hyper-masculinity, I mean an extreme form of traditionally masculine traits, like the violent aggression Ares represented in myth. So, yeah, the idea of...
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    "Necessarily"? No, of course not; there's no...

    "Necessarily"? No, of course not; there's no doubt that a bad writer could make bad stories out of good conflicts. In general, though, stories are about the development and resolution of conflict, so...
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    Honestly, I'm just talking about Paglia because...

    Honestly, I'm just talking about Paglia because the Marquesse brought her up. I do think tht the Amazons can in effect serve as a parody of Paglia's or MRAs' misconceptions about feminism, but I have...
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    I'm an American man, and I don't see feminism...

    I'm an American man, and I don't see feminism that way. He might be caricaturing Paglia's and the Mens' Rights Activists' misconceptions about feminism; but those misconceptions deserve to be...
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    The Amazons may represent what Paglia or MRA...

    The Amazons may represent what Paglia or MRA people think feminists would inevitably become; but Azz's run shows that they belong to the past, not to modern feminism or to the future.



    In...
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    It depends on whether you think independence and...

    It depends on whether you think independence and autonomy are important attributes to have. They are skilled and they may be content on the surface, but if they've been living as Heph's "charges,"...
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    Except that in Wonder Woman these "embittered,...

    Except that in Wonder Woman these "embittered, inhospitable, uber-masculine women" are not modern feminists or modern anything, but relics of a mythological past--which just highlights, I think, that...
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    It didn't, really. He certainly didn't go on with...

    It didn't, really. He certainly didn't go on with innuendo she was actually warning him about. After issue 19, she yells at him in 21 when he think she's calling him Baby; and I believe the next and...
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    You did indeed, and I pointed out that it's not...

    You did indeed, and I pointed out that it's not so. We seems to be going in circles--but, just to remind you, she protested more than once: she walks away from him in disgust in 18 after his weak...
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    I think we have to separate the questions "is...

    I think we have to separate the questions "is this offensive to feminism?" and "is this offensive to Amazon fans?" It's not the same question, because while it may be that all Amazon fans are...
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    That's true. But, in this case, is the...

    That's true. But, in this case, is the "marginalized group" Amazons, or it it women everywhere?

    If it's just the Amazons, then yes, the bool downplays or takes for granted their reasons to be...
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    Good examples, bortntohula. Marquesse, while I...

    Good examples, bortntohula. Marquesse, while I think it's true that a lot of the supported characters don't live up to feminist ideal (at least until they're influenced by Wonder Woman), it's also...
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    "By itself," sure. But that doesn't mean that...

    "By itself," sure. But that doesn't mean that war, or preparation for war, can't help to bring or maintain peace in a given situation. I wouldn't expect Wonder Woman to solve long-term international...
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    Sticky: OK, here's that consideration, then: the book is...

    OK, here's that consideration, then: the book is probably selling relatively well compared to other books that also have new writers who are still learning their craft. :)

    Of course, most of...
  20. Wow! We've disagreed a bit since issue 35,...

    Wow! We've disagreed a bit since issue 35, Vanguard, so I haven't had a chance to say this--but, "THIS"!

    Well said.
  21. That's true, but Outside is also right; the...

    That's true, but Outside is also right; the sacrificed woman calls Derinoe "mother."
  22. I just looked at those pages and the pages around...

    I just looked at those pages and the pages around them, and I don't see her name. But David Finch did say the sorceress was Hecate.

    Maybe they're both Hecate; she was sometimes depicted as having...
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    Sticky: There was a pretty good couple of paragraphs of...

    There was a pretty good couple of paragraphs of sales analysis on Tim Hanley's blog:
  24. Do we know for sure that this is Hecate? Derinoe...

    I figured they must be in league, since Yellow Eyes prepares the cauldron and Red Eyes calls Donna forth from the cauldron, right? But Red Eyes is the one on the throne, and preparing the cauldron...
  25. Part of Circe's general motivation--not for...

    Part of Circe's general motivation--not for hating Wonder Woman specifically, but for assembling her army and generally being villainous--seems to be to gain her freedom. She said she made her deal...
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