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    That's the problem with arguing about things in...

    That's the problem with arguing about things in story because none of this is real or the news. Anything could happen if the writer deems it so. I just have a major issues with how Superman was...
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    I feel like I'm repeating myself a bit but again...

    I feel like I'm repeating myself a bit but again my point was it was contrived that Superman killed him even if accidentally and of course there were alternatives that wouldn't break the story. You...
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    There have been some interesting discussions of...

    There have been some interesting discussions of why that's not a good thing. I'll touch on why that's not a good thing in this film instead. MOS demands that what is happening is realistic of a alien...
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    My best idea? Capture him using magic, Star Labs...

    My best idea? Capture him using magic, Star Labs tech, Kryptonian tech keep him in a place like Dr. Fate's tower and use him for training. Superman gets accolades for being the best superhero and he...
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    Doomsday is a mindless killing machine whose only...

    Doomsday is a mindless killing machine whose only comprehension of anything is to kill it and its always been contrived when they make Superman kill him. Every time I've seen it I, with my limited...
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    Because that's the story. See that to me...

    Because that's the story.



    See that to me is over simplification because Superman isn't just an IP, he is or really was important to our culture. Superman and writing his name in all caps use...
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    I guess I'm just rooted in place on how...

    I guess I'm just rooted in place on how deliberate mischaracterization and exacerbating an already widely unappealing aspect of a character other writers were using that you don't even like so much...
  8. The more Superman media I consume, the more I'm...

    The more Superman media I consume, the more I'm okay with this happening.
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    Superman is pretty good to Batman in terms of not...

    Superman is pretty good to Batman in terms of not zaaping him from the sky but how is everything else heroic or respectful? He's Superman! Day 1 Superman from the 30s is fighting corrupt gov't, not...
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    Forgive me, as I read this story years ago but in...

    Forgive me, as I read this story years ago but in pieces over a long stretch of time because the art was like eye vomit in my opinion and because of his treatment of Superman but what is respectful...
  11. I missed it then. Where does it say that?

    I missed it then. Where does it say that?
  12. I love "This is Clark Kent", it's a really...

    I love "This is Clark Kent", it's a really beautiful piece to me up until 2:20. After that point it kinda hallows out for me. I plan on finding a animator and simulating the choose your character...
  13. Here lies Superman...DC's #1 bad guy.

    Here lies Superman...DC's #1 bad guy.
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    I'd also love to see Baka, Krypto, Supergirl,...

    I'd also love to see Baka, Krypto, Supergirl, Superboy, Steel and Powergirl all together. Superman and Baka could even have their own adventures.
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    Martian Man Hunter The Legion The Flash...

    Martian Man Hunter
    The Legion
    The Flash
    Captain Marvel
    The Question
    Vixen
    Dr. Vertias
  16. Superman reminds me of the Punisher here....

    Superman reminds me of the Punisher here. Especially with the tattered cape and blood splattered on his boots and floor. *sigh* And then there's all this Superboy influence but we're getting that a...
  17. Here's is what soooo many missed somehow: Zod:...

    Here's is what soooo many missed somehow:

    Zod: "If you destroy this ship you destroy Krypton!"
    Superman: "Krypton had it's chance!"
    *Zaaps the genesis pods, the only means of reviving their...
  18. Really? Passing judgement and committing genocide...

    Really? Passing judgement and committing genocide against an entire species, obliterating his entire culture gives no wrong impression? That's what Superman would do? That's who Hopeman is? He...
  19. No, when I said "You had your chance!" I was...

    No, when I said "You had your chance!" I was referring to "KRYPTON HAD IT'S CHANCE!" from MOS. Which is the largest media to give the most people the wrong impression.
  20. That's exactly why I can clearly imagine writers...

    That's exactly why I can clearly imagine writers doing this. Not killing or committing genocide (which is where that line is from) is Superman being a wuss and he's pathetic for it. Taking away...
  21. We're in, "You had your chance!" era Superman so...

    We're in, "You had your chance!" era Superman so yeah I can see some writer doing this.
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    Whoa, when did this happen? Did this happen?? I...

    Whoa, when did this happen? Did this happen?? I did read something once about Alan Moore claiming that if he ever wrote Superman again he'd make Luthor Superman's ex because of Connor. Not sure if...
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    For a lot of people, especially before all the...

    For a lot of people, especially before all the policing, these very forums were thought of the exact same way and probably still is. And anyway I wrote that quote and someone posted it there. No...
  24. Poll: It should have been a top 10 Superman story and...

    It should have been a top 10 Superman story and because it reached for it, in some ways succeeding in delivering some really stunning and lofty moments it gets my vote. Plus that art is what got me...
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    No, you really, truly cannot.

    No, you really, truly cannot.
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