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    Wonder Woman vs. Caulifla & Kale! Who wins?

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    Does Kale start in her super form? If she doesn't, it seems like a bloodlusted Diana could kill her with a stab before she gets there. Otherwise, I really have no idea what to make of the power levels of the non top tier DB folks anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Morgan View Post
    Does Kale start in her super form?
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    Kale's super form walked through a Kamehameha from Blue Goku and pimp-slapped him trivially. Wonder Woman is very, very dead here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Kale's super form walked through a Kamehameha from Blue Goku and pimp-slapped him trivially. Wonder Woman is very, very dead here.


    It comes down to speed as it often does for DBZ/DBS folk. Diana, regardless her capacity to physically hurt Kale or tank energy blasts is redundant if she can just stab Kale to death via being quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric of Hell's Brigade View Post
    It comes down to speed as it often does for DBZ/DBS folk. Diana, regardless her capacity to physically hurt Kale or tank energy blasts is redundant if she can just stab Kale to death via being quicker.
    Well, like always with DBZ/S folks, speed is an issue, as it's based on scaling and extrapolating more than anything else. But did you see the part about "no-sell a kamehameha from Blue Goku"? She also did the same to his punches, and showed herself to be as fast as he more or less. So, she's likely as fast, and no-sells WAY more than Diana can dish out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Well, like always with DBZ/S folks, speed is an issue, as it's based on scaling and extrapolating more than anything else. But did you see the part about "no-sell a kamehameha from Blue Goku"? She also did the same to his punches, and showed herself to be as fast as he more or less. So, she's likely as fast, and no-sells WAY more than Diana can dish out.
    Don't forget that they both are also capable of saturating the entire ring with massively powerful energy blasts so Diana isn't going to be dodging those blasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric of Hell's Brigade View Post
    It comes down to speed as it often does for DBZ/DBS folk. Diana, regardless her capacity to physically hurt Kale or tank energy blasts is redundant if she can just stab Kale to death via being quicker.
    What's the most durable thing that current Diana has managed to stab?

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    What's the most durable thing that current Diana has managed to stab?
    Nu Darkseid? I think? Don't know if that's current or not lol
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    Kale is at least as fast as Dyspo, whose entire shitck is "I am FTL and can hear muscle movements as well as Shiva can read them".
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    Dyspo's schtick is that he can get a thousand times faster for one movement, and Kale has nothing that brings her near a burst speed that nobody short of Angels could see.

    (Dyspo outside of that 1000x boost being not notably faster than every other high-tier DBS character.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Kale's super form walked through a Kamehameha from Blue Goku and pimp-slapped him trivially. Wonder Woman is very, very dead here.
    Berserk Kale will completely wreck Wonder Woman.

    As in, absolutely destroy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Dyspo's schtick is that he can get a thousand times faster for one movement, and Kale has nothing that brings her near a burst speed that nobody short of Angels could see.

    (Dyspo outside of that 1000x boost being not notably faster than every other high-tier DBS character.)
    The burst of speed is still something they could react to. When Dyspo tried it to finish off Hit, Goku transformed into SSG and flew to that spot and intercepted the punch. Then later, when he tried it again, Hit turned his time intangibility on. That's only if you're talking the bursts he does towards his opponents. Then he does so again against Goku in his Ultra Instinct mode, and it too fails.
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    Yes I believe if Kale stays in her first base form...yes she will lose...BUT !!!...If she goes to Super Saiyan Berserker Form...Wonder Woman is Dead straight up...Period...No questions asked...Bye Bye...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    The burst of speed is still something they could react to. When Dyspo tried it to finish off Hit, Goku transformed into SSG and flew to that spot and intercepted the punch. Then later, when he tried it again, Hit turned his time intangibility on. That's only if you're talking the bursts he does towards his opponents. Then he does so again against Goku in his Ultra Instinct mode, and it too fails.
    Goku specifically said he was predicting his linear movement though so it could be like aim dodging for high tiers. He can realize what the guys about to do and outreact him before he gets going or halfway through. Point being its not clear cut reaction speed

    UI Goku is a different matter

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