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    For me I would probably say Daredevil. Granted I may be a bit biased, but with the torch it always seemed a bit more antagonistic. ALmost like rivals... playing pranks on each other and the such. Besides, Torch will always seem closer to Thing and the FF than he will Spidey.

    With Daredevil, it was almost like two loners hanging out. Neither had anyone else and they had each other's back when the going gets tough. With Torch? He's usually too busy saving the world or something. In the 60's and 70's they used to team up a bit... but from the 90's on the FF were generally marginalized and I can't think of any great team ups they had.

    as for Wolverine? Spider-man SHOULD hate him. He's the opposite of everything that Spidey stands for... and like the DD/Punisher team ups they should spend half their time telling each other how everything they do is wrong and end up punching each other in the face.... then maybe having a beer. Wolverine should the guy who's useful to have in a fight... but he's not the friend you'd want to set up your cousin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    For me I would probably say Daredevil. Granted I may be a bit biased, but with the torch it always seemed a bit more antagonistic. ALmost like rivals... playing pranks on each other and the such. Besides, Torch will always seem closer to Thing and the FF than he will Spidey.

    With Daredevil, it was almost like two loners hanging out. Neither had anyone else and they had each other's back when the going gets tough. With Torch? He's usually too busy saving the world or something. In the 60's and 70's they used to team up a bit... but from the 90's on the FF were generally marginalized and I can't think of any great team ups they had.
    I don't agree with you. But you make some good points.
    as for Wolverine? Spider-man SHOULD hate him. He's the opposite of everything that Spidey stands for... and like the DD/Punisher team ups they should spend half their time telling each other how everything they do is wrong and end up punching each other in the face.... then maybe having a beer. Wolverine should the guy who's useful to have in a fight... but he's not the friend you'd want to set up your cousin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    Forget Spider-Man, I will never understand why anyone in the superhero community treats Wolverine any better than they do Punisher.
    Exactly! It's just a blatantly obvious thing of Marvel milking the popular characters. Same with Deadpool. When CAPTAIN AMERICA can offer an insane assassin a place on the Avengers... logic is right out the window. Same when Iron Man convinced Captain America... again the most 'no-kill' spotless boy scout in the marvel universe... the one who disbanded the Avengers because they were voting to kill the Supreme Intelligence... that they should have wolverine on the team 'to do what they couldn't'... It was all $$$$

    There is no in-universe reason these characters would ever actually respect each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    Exactly! It's just a blatantly obvious thing of Marvel milking the popular characters. Same with Deadpool. When CAPTAIN AMERICA can offer an insane assassin a place on the Avengers... logic is right out the window. Same when Iron Man convinced Captain America... again the most 'no-kill' spotless boy scout in the marvel universe... the one who disbanded the Avengers because they were voting to kill the Supreme Intelligence... that they should have wolverine on the team 'to do what they couldn't'... It was all $$$$

    There is no in-universe reason these characters would ever actually respect each other
    Pretty much of the the Avengers have blood on their hands. Even Hawkeye was murdering Skrulls left and right during Secret Invasion. It would be pretty hypocritical for them to hold Logan to a standard they don't even live up to. Even Spider-Man. Didn't he say in issue #700 when he attempted to kill Doc Ock that because of his actions today, he could never go back to being Spidey again? And then one relaunch later, it's all water under the bridge!
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    Although I had some Spider-Man comics here and there like every kid years back, I didn't really come around to getting invested in him until I saw that he was so close to Daredevil. That's been dashed against the rocks since about Civil War, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegeta View Post
    Pretty much of the the Avengers have blood on their hands. Even Hawkeye was murdering Skrulls left and right during Secret Invasion. It would be pretty hypocritical for them to hold Logan to a standard they don't even live up to. Even Spider-Man. Didn't he say in issue #700 when he attempted to kill Doc Ock that because of his actions today, he could never go back to being Spidey again? And then one relaunch later, it's all water under the bridge!
    And hell, didn't Wolverine's initial defense of Superior Spider-Man when the other Avengers were appalled by him killing Massacre boil down to, "What are you all getting on your high horses for? Everyone in here has killed when they've been pushed into a corner by the bad guys"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    For me I would probably say Daredevil. Granted I may be a bit biased, but with the torch it always seemed a bit more antagonistic. ALmost like rivals... playing pranks on each other and the such. Besides, Torch will always seem closer to Thing and the FF than he will Spidey.
    That's what best friends to to each other lol.

    as for Wolverine? Spider-man SHOULD hate him. He's the opposite of everything that Spidey stands for... and like the DD/Punisher team ups they should spend half their time telling each other how everything they do is wrong and end up punching each other in the face.... then maybe having a beer. Wolverine should the guy who's useful to have in a fight... but he's not the friend you'd want to set up your cousin with.
    I think Spidey's and Wolverine's friendship started in New Avengers, before that they didn't get along, sure they did team up sometimes, but Spidey made it blatantly clear he doesn't like Logan.

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