Page 3 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 89
  1. #31
    Spectacular Member Wolvie valley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    160

    Default

    The X-men will enter hiatus regardless due to completing a round trip
    Last edited by Wolvie valley; 06-14-2018 at 06:00 AM.

  2. #32
    Astonishing Member Jokerz79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Posts
    3,217

    Default

    I did like the dig Fox made about the Comcast bid being "unsolicited" Disney is definitely going to off their own higher bid this is about more than X-Men, Deadpool, and FF it's about Fox's catalog which Disney wants it wants it for the future and streaming which they know is the future. Also there are some personal things here to consider

    1: Disney HATES Comcast since they tried this same thing with buying Disney in 2004 so they want to beat Comcast.

    2: Murdoch wanted Sky and Comcast spoiling that has to sting and it's fresh that was going to be the legacy at the end of his career just as this merge is for Iger both probably are seething and will want to stop Comcast this isn't as ugly as CBS and Viacom but it's probably close.

    So popcorn anyone?

    Last edited by Jokerz79; 06-13-2018 at 10:31 PM.

  3. #33
    Incredible Member uebersoldat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    992

    Default

    I still can't get over the fact that all these articles never say one thing about the rights for X-Men and FF not being transferable. Where did that rumor originate and is that all it is? Surely with 65b on the line Comcast would know if it wasn't getting the X-Men ahead of time...so it stands to reason that there is no such clause in some old contract from the 90's Marvel sellout.

  4. #34
    Incredible Member Peanutsinspace's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    731

    Default

    Grace Randolph broke down the whole "love triangle" pretty well. Here's her video with the breakdown posted before the AT&T/Time Warner merger. In this video she explains the Fox owned properties.

    Last edited by Peanutsinspace; 06-13-2018 at 10:22 PM.

  5. #35
    Incredible Member Peanutsinspace's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    731

    Default

    Aaand here's the video after the merger was announced.


  6. #36
    Everything Fades Away... butterflykyss's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    9,631

    Default

    I'm just ready for this mess to be done. if anyone thought the xmen were bad under fox just wait until comcast gets their clutches on them, especially if the movies end up anything like their service.
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

  7. #37
    Mighty Member WeaponX's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,674

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by uebersoldat View Post
    I still can't get over the fact that all these articles never say one thing about the rights for X-Men and FF not being transferable. Where did that rumor originate and is that all it is? Surely with 65b on the line Comcast would know if it wasn't getting the X-Men ahead of time...so it stands to reason that there is no such clause in some old contract from the 90's Marvel sellout.
    To your first question I believe it comes from the fact that one of the other rights Marvel sold I can’t remember which one had such a clause in it that sent the rights back to marvel. So it would stand to reason marvel would have put that in all these deals especially since it really is no skin of Fox’s nose to offer it because what do they care if the rights revert back if they’re bought out.

    To the other point it comes down to the fact while we X-men fans view this as the most important aspect of the deal the X-men rights might not even be on Comcast radar as Sky is far more important to them as are the original Star Wars distribution rights and some of the network assets that Comcast can keep that Disney could not due to the fact they already have ABC.

  8. #38
    SSJ Ultra Mega Super God JustAnotherFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    1,317

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by uebersoldat View Post
    I still can't get over the fact that all these articles never say one thing about the rights for X-Men and FF not being transferable. Where did that rumor originate and is that all it is? Surely with 65b on the line Comcast would know if it wasn't getting the X-Men ahead of time...so it stands to reason that there is no such clause in some old contract from the 90's Marvel sellout.
    There are two main reasons why it’s never really mentioned.
    1. Nobody knows whether there is such a clause or not. Only people in the know are the ones who have seen the contracts or are otherwise privy to info about the contracts. So the writers of the articles would only be repeating theories/speculation and further theorizing/speculating without having anything concrete to go on.
    2. In the grand scheme of things the rights to FF & X-Men are small potatos compared to the rest of the package that contains networks and various other valuable IPs. FF/X-Men is the most important part mainly to comic book fans alone. Even Disney probably doesn’t consider those rights as the main reason to get Fox. To them they are probably one of many IPs to be gained from this deal.


    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX View Post
    To your first question I believe it comes from the fact that one of the other rights Marvel sold I can’t remember which one had such a clause in it that sent the rights back to marvel. So it would stand to reason marvel would have put that in all these deals especially since it really is no skin of Fox’s nose to offer it because what do they care if the rights revert back if they’re bought out.

    To the other point it comes down to the fact while we X-men fans view this as the most important aspect of the deal the X-men rights might not even be on Comcast radar as Sky is far more important to them as are the original Star Wars distribution rights and some of the network assets that Comcast can keep that Disney could not due to the fact they already have ABC.
    It would really make sense for Marvel to have asked for that type of clause to be put in there during the renegotiations of the deal so it’s very possible that it exists. But I don’t think that Marvel would have been smart enough or in the position to put it in there during the original writing of the deal since those deals were notably pretty bad for Marvel and they were in financial difficulties at the time.
    But even if that clause about rights reverting to Marvel exists we still don’t whether the rights are set to revert to Marvel in the case of 21st Century Fox being sold to anyone or if the reverting of the rights requires for 21st Century Fox to actually be dissolved and completely absorbed into the company that buys them. In case of Disney it MIGHT be that they fully absorb Fox but Comcast probably would keep the studio intact since it is an established brand that is worth a lot of money in and of itself.
    Last edited by JustAnotherFan; 06-14-2018 at 05:42 AM.

  9. #39
    Astonishing Member Maestroneto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    2,984

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by uebersoldat View Post
    I still can't get over the fact that all these articles never say one thing about the rights for X-Men and FF not being transferable. Where did that rumor originate and is that all it is? Surely with 65b on the line Comcast would know if it wasn't getting the X-Men ahead of time...so it stands to reason that there is no such clause in some old contract from the 90's Marvel sellout.
    Because the rights aren't being transferred. 20th Century Fox bought the X-Men rights and now Comcast might buy 20th Century Fox. Which means the X-Men rights did not move away from 20th Century Fox.

  10. #40
    X-Men & Green Lantern Fan Sam Robards, Comic Fan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    779

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherFan View Post
    ...I don’t think that Marvel would have been ... in the position to put it in there during the original writing of the deal since those deals were notably pretty bad for Marvel and they were in financial difficulties at the time.
    That's what some people tend to forget: Marvel was bankrupt when they made these movie deals. They had to make whatever deals they could to get money to become solvent again, which leads me to highly doubt such a clause exists in these contracts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    Because the rights aren't being transferred. 20th Century Fox bought the X-Men rights and now Comcast might buy 20th Century Fox. Which means the X-Men rights did not move away from 20th Century Fox.
    I can also see this as being true, as much of a potential loophole as it'd be. If the non-transfer clauses did exist, and Comcast decided to disintegrate or rebrand 20th Century Fox upon purchase, then there'd be more to talk about.

    Either way, if Disney doesn't buy Fox now, they'll never get the rights back. Or at least not in time to capitalize on the super hero movie trend.
    What can I say but, "I love comics."

  11. #41
    Incredible Member uebersoldat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    992

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    Because the rights aren't being transferred. 20th Century Fox bought the X-Men rights and now Comcast might buy 20th Century Fox. Which means the X-Men rights did not move away from 20th Century Fox.
    That defeats the entire purpose of such a clause in the contract, if there is one. lol

  12. #42
    The Best There Is Wolverine12's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,214

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    why do the mods keep closing these threads?
    See below

    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    Because the same five people have the same dumb off-topic discussion over and over again.
    This is why

    Quote Originally Posted by uebersoldat View Post
    morelike the same one or two people, one of which has been banned more times than I can remember but keeps coming back to bash the MCU.

    If mods are reading can we just nuke any BS posts that pop up but keep this thread for news on the merger so we don't clutter up other threads such as the Dark Phoenix movie thread?
    It is definitely more than just one or two people and we always step in a stop the b.s. but when we have to step in multiple times over a 300+ page thread and say the same thing to the same people over and over it gets annoying as hell and the thread gets shut down. My suggestion to everyone involved, especially the guilty parties from previous threads that are already posting in this one, is to just ignore what ever the hell OT thread gets posted first, everyone here already knows how you feel about the Fox X-Men vs the MCU and no one cares or wants you to repeat yourself again. If it starts up in this thread I'll just shut it down right away. No more chances on this.
    You brought back Wolverine

  13. #43
    Incredible Member uebersoldat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    992

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponX View Post
    To your first question I believe it comes from the fact that one of the other rights Marvel sold I can’t remember which one had such a clause in it that sent the rights back to marvel. So it would stand to reason marvel would have put that in all these deals especially since it really is no skin of Fox’s nose to offer it because what do they care if the rights revert back if they’re bought out.

    To the other point it comes down to the fact while we X-men fans view this as the most important aspect of the deal the X-men rights might not even be on Comcast radar as Sky is far more important to them as are the original Star Wars distribution rights and some of the network assets that Comcast can keep that Disney could not due to the fact they already have ABC.
    That's good logic. It's still aggravating to see news articles just assume they'll (Comcast or whoever) get the X-Men when they don't know for sure. Maybe the journalists just aren't thinking that far into it?

  14. #44
    Incredible Member uebersoldat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    992

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine12 View Post
    See below



    This is why



    It is definitely more than just one or two people and we always step in a stop the b.s. but when we have to step in multiple times over a 300+ page thread and say the same thing to the same people over and over it gets annoying as hell and the thread gets shut down. My suggestion to everyone involved, especially the guilty parties from previous threads that are already posting in this one, is to just ignore what ever the hell OT thread gets posted first, everyone here already knows how you feel about the Fox X-Men vs the MCU and no one cares or wants you to repeat yourself again. If it starts up in this thread I'll just shut it down right away. No more chances on this.
    Thanks Wolverine12, but if it's just one user that doesn't like the thread he/she could just sabotage/troll it with a throwaway account and get it shut down. That doesn't seem fair so can you give some thought to shutting it down only if multiple parties are involved in any potential XCUvsMCU b.s.?

  15. #45
    Astonishing Member Maestroneto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    2,984

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by uebersoldat View Post
    That defeats the entire purpose of such a clause in the contract, if there is one. lol
    It's in the case of a bankruptcy or a hostile takeover where the studio is broken up in parts.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •