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    A book wins critical acclaims and nods, has several teenagers and closeted and proudly out individuals across the world writing in about how much it meant to them, possibly did good in digital and TPB sales.

    And haters be like, "HOW DARE WE GET A FOLLOW-UP TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALL ABOUT ME?!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by DDM View Post
    I guess it says Storm should officially come out too.

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    Off topic but agreed that Storm should have a solo series. She should have had a long running on-going by now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MyriVerse View Post
    So. Obviously Marvel's learned nothing from last year's failures.
    They haven't? I'm pretty sure there's ten or so other X-books starring almost nothing but straight white people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confuzzled View Post
    A book wins critical acclaims and nods, has several teenagers and closeted and proudly out individuals across the world writing in about how much it meant to them, possibly did good in digital and TPB sales.

    And haters be like, "HOW DARE WE GET A FOLLOW-UP TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALL ABOUT ME?!"

    "But what about me?" seems to be the big question we always ask ourselves, and then twist it into a weird personal assault on ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confuzzled View Post
    A book wins critical acclaims and nods, has several teenagers and closeted and proudly out individuals across the world writing in about how much it meant to them, possibly did good in digital and TPB sales.

    And haters be like, "HOW DARE WE GET A FOLLOW-UP TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALL ABOUT ME?!"

    Some one mentioned here that the last trade got 900 orders.I haven't seen anyone argue outside the numbers.

    I don't think anyone is saying don't use the concept, what's being said is rework it. They are relaunching the book a few months later with the same writer. What's going to draw more people in this time?

    Now, if Marvel is just putting this out as some psa they should state this and no one would questioningthe book.

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    Really happy!

    One of my favorite recent books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    They haven't? I'm pretty sure there's ten or so other X-books starring almost nothing but straight white people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    Some one mentioned here that the last trade got 900 orders.I haven't seen anyone argue outside the numbers.

    I don't think anyone is saying don't use the concept, what's being said is rework it. They are relaunching the book a few months later with the same writer. What's going to draw more people in this time?

    Now, if Marvel is just putting this out as some psa they should state this and no one would questioningthe book.
    I think others have said it, but Marvel is most likely hoping that the audience who found the trades will be interested in the new series as opposed to just assuming the general market will somehow respond better outside of that audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    Some one mentioned here that the last trade got 900 orders.I haven't seen anyone argue outside the numbers.
    I'm mostly staying out of this thread (and others) because of how pointless it is to deal with people who will never learn as they continue to spout toxic nonsense, but since you're misinformed and no one has given a proper response yet, I'll explain.

    I'm not sure if that 900 number from Diamond is true as I haven't looked myself. However, even if it is, as many of the bigots on this forum choose to ignore, Diamond numbers are only estimates of books shipped in the direct market. Iceman (and Unstoppable Wasp) are being brought back because they did very well in trade sales outside of the direct market (Amazon, book stores, etc) and, like all numbers from every publisher, we do not have access to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skedatz View Post
    I think others have said it, but Marvel is most likely hoping that the audience who found the trades will be interested in the new series as opposed to just assuming the general market will somehow respond better outside of that audience.
    If we go by the numbers we got the floppies sold 10 times better than the TPB and if those people come the bump is going to be minimal


    Quote Originally Posted by Assam View Post
    I'm mostly staying out of this thread (and others) because of how pointless it is to deal with people who will never learn as they continue to spout toxic nonsense, but since you're misinformed and no one has given a proper response yet, I'll explain.

    I'm not sure if that 900 number from Diamond is true as I haven't looked myself. However, even if it is, as many of the bigots on this forum choose to ignore, Diamond numbers are only estimates of books shipped in the direct market. Iceman (and Unstoppable Wasp) are being brought back because they did very well in trade sales outside of the direct market (Amazon, book stores, etc) and, like all numbers from every publisher, we do not have access to them.
    So the question is, why would the comic companies celebrate these numbers and never show the true numbers?

    Why keep that hidden? If the book is doing that well in those other places why even sell to comic stores where they get low orders?
    Is it to take up space in stores to keep appearances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post
    If we go by the numbers we got the floppies sold 10 times better than the TPB and if those people come the bump is going to be minimal




    So the question is, why would the comic companies celebrate these numbers and never show the true numbers?

    Why keep that hidden? If the book is doing that well in those other places why even sell to comic stores where they get low orders?
    Is it to take up space in stores to keep appearances?
    Ten times better according to Diamond. The sales Diamond doesn't/can't keep track of is probably where Marvel sees the market interest.


    In regards to the numbers, comic companies never have really revealed numbers for reasons all their own probably having to do more with why they charge the way they do and probably wage stuff. It's not like DC doesn't reveal Batman sales because they're embarrassed or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighphi View Post

    Why keep that hidden? If the book is doing that well in those other places why even sell to comic stores where they get low orders?
    Is it to take up space in stores to keep appearances?
    Others have said this already, I already said it and I'm going to say it one more time: No publisher releases their numbers for ANY titles. They are not keeping anything hidden. It simply isn't a practice of the industry to release these numbers. The only reason anyone is calling for them to show them here, and not in the case of all the low-selling titles which star straight white males that get more chances, is because they're insecure enough as to feel threatened by the existence of these books. Frankly, I'm reminded of people demanding to see Obama's birth certificate.

    As to your other questions, Skedatz already answered that part. They're likely hoping for a carry-over from the trade readers so they can have more streams of revenue. You dismissed that because of the 900 number, but as we've already gone over, that number is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confuzzled View Post
    I meant/thought Grace could pick up a more reformed Daken from after his stint on Laura's book. Grace clarified that his take on Daken in the first arc took place before the events in Laura's book, and the Bobby/Daken kiss that "froze" the Seed () was the beginning of the thaw in Daken's edge (...that also sounds like an innuendo).

    But yeah, I encourage pre-ordering the hell out of this anyway.
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    I liked the story, but didn't care much for his Bobby voice. He went from a little awkward to flamboyantly "stereotypically" gay.. It was a little over the top for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Confuzzled View Post
    A book wins critical acclaims and nods, has several teenagers and closeted and proudly out individuals across the world writing in about how much it meant to them, possibly did good in digital and TPB sales.
    you can buy a book without identifying with any of the characters and lol at the "how much it meant to them"...it had a good coming out issue, but it wasn't the best

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    I didn't really find Bobby as stereotypical flamboyant gay so much as I saw him as, "That older guy who always imitates what seems hip and new to today's youth," which is pretty keeping with his character. It isn't like he was going around with feather boas with bright pink belly shirts saying stuff like, "Giiiiiirl! You would NOT believe the makeup and shoe sales I got down on!"

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