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    Honestly, I think the wings are probably the strongest part of the design, which I guess is a good thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Yeah...I think that's got to be my least favorite Silver Swan design.

    The black, blue, and silver just don't really gel together all that well.
    It is a mess of colors, but the thing that bothers me the most about this look is the blue tights she seems to be wearing (they make it look like she's wearing skin-tight bluejeans).

    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    At least itís not a silver bikini.

    Is it possible to say I like the idea but not the concept?
    Honestly, while I'm happy the silver bikini is out, I would've loved to see something akin to this design:



    Quote Originally Posted by Pinsir View Post
    I get that red hair is sexy/cool/hip 'n all, but really? Another red headed Wonder Woman villain?
    Her skin seems unusually pale. Circe's Rebirth design is a pale redhead, too. And of course there's Giganta. At least as Frontier pointed out, Cheetah's a blonde now.

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    It'll be interesting to see how she is re-villain-ized. IIRC Jimenez had her deprogrammed and un-cyber-ized and sent off into a happy future - but that was one or two realities ago.

    I don't think we've seen her previously in the DCnU or Rebirth, unless I'm missing/forgetting something.

    I like Vanessa and the Kapatelises, but it seems like a missed opportunity to relaunch with a new Helen Alexandros version of the Swan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Honestly, I think the wings are probably the strongest part of the design, which I guess is a good thing...
    I kind of like the power-converter-hover disc-y things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    Her skin seems unusually pale. Circe's Rebirth design is a pale redhead, too. And of course there's Giganta. At least as Frontier pointed out, Cheetah's a blonde now.
    This is kind of what I was thinking too - perhaps a little to Circe-ish.

    Perhaps that has something to do with her transformation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonderScott View Post
    It'll be interesting to see how she is re-villain-ized. IIRC Jimenez had her deprogrammed and un-cyber-ized and sent off into a happy future - but that was one or two realities ago.

    I don't think we've seen her previously in the DCnU or Rebirth, unless I'm missing/forgetting something.

    I like Vanessa and the Kapatelises, but it seems like a missed opportunity to relaunch with a new Helen Alexandros version of the Swan.
    It was Rucka who had Diana save Vanessa, actually. And I think she had a great send off in issue 600, so it's kinda sad to see her brought back just to be an enemy again.

    And I 100% agree with you: it should've been Helen.

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    Also, regarding the design, what's with the lose buttocks straps on the costume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    It was Rucka who had Diana save Vanessa, actually. And I think she had a great send off in issue 600, so it's kinda sad to see her brought back just to be an enemy again.

    And I 100% agree with you: it should've been Helen.
    Ahhh, I'm remembering that now. Thank you. I *think* Jimenez may have drawn that portion of #600 and that's why I thought that.

    I get what they were trying to do with the familial aspect between Nessie and Diana, but yeah they should have started fresh with Helen.

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    I wonder how this will go
    Last edited by AmiMizuno; 12-21-2017 at 01:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    It is a mess of colors, but the thing that bothers me the most about this look is the blue tights she seems to be wearing (they make it look like she's wearing skin-tight bluejeans).
    I could buy it if she was deliberately trying to rip Cassie off .
    Honestly, while I'm happy the silver bikini is out, I would've loved to see something akin to this design:

    I definitely think a battle dress works better for Silver Swan then...whatever the heck we're getting.
    Her skin seems unusually pale. Circe's Rebirth design is a pale redhead, too. And of course there's Giganta. At least as Frontier pointed out, Cheetah's a blonde now.
    Circe's still sporting her New 52 design.

    I guess Circe's look from the Godwatch arc was as underwhelming for DC as it was for the fans.
    Quote Originally Posted by WonderScott View Post
    I get what they were trying to do with the familial aspect between Nessie and Diana, but yeah they should have started fresh with Helen.
    If they really wanted to start fresh I agree they should've used Helen, but it looks like Robinson is deliberately playing up Perez continuity by using Nessie here.

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    This is Vanessa Kapatlis, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    This is Vanessa Kapatlis, right?

    Attachment 59797
    This image is Valerie Beaudry from the Perez run. (Her "negligee" costume is not unlike the one worn by the Helen Alexandros Silver Swan in the 70s.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonderScott View Post
    This image is Valerie Beaudry from the Perez run. (Her "negligee" costume is not unlike the one worn by the Helen Alexandros Silver Swan in the 70s.)
    What does Vannesa costume look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    What does Vannesa costume look like?
    Here's Helen Alexandros from the 70s.

    Helen.jpg

    Here's Vanessa Kapatelis from the Jimenez run.

    Vanessa.jpeg

    Here's Vanessa (I think) from Rucka's run.

    vanessa+diana.jpg

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    So Vanessa Silver Swan wasn't Perez's arc wasn't Perez?

    Quote Originally Posted by WonderScott View Post
    Here's Helen Alexandros from the 70s.

    Helen.jpg

    Here's Vanessa Kapatelis from the Jimenez run.

    Vanessa.jpeg

    Here's Vanessa (I think) from Rucka's run.

    vanessa+diana.jpg


    All of these are great. I know they probably wanted to do something different but how should they have done it?
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