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    Default Poison Ivy Appreciation

    This is an Appreciation thread for the long time Bats character:
    POISON IVY



    First appearing in 1966 in Batman Vol. 1 issue 181, Ivy was a villain who could control men with just a kiss and could climb up walls like a vine. She gave Batman a kiss and he was hers, in till he and Robin stopped her in issue 183.

    Sometime later she gets the power over plants, after a changing in her origin.


    Her skin can change color and has over the years, from normal to green, and her costume has changed too.

    She has always been the Queen of Plants and even though she is seen as a bad guy she does what she does for her "Babys", her plants. And has sometime even been written as a good person who does bad things or even an anti-hero type of character (in fact she even once to care of a bunch of orphans when they had no where else to go, she kept them safe and protected them), she has always been a favorite in the eyes of many.

    She has been in a lot of Batman family comics over the years, as well as a lot of others. She has been written a lot of times as a best friend to the character Harley Quinn and has worked with her plenty of times.

    Before the relaunch she was in a new title with some other kick butt females (Catwoman and her bff Harley Quinn) called Gotham City Sirens.


    She has recently been a member of the Birds of Prey and is currently in the Batgirl Annual 2!

    Use this thread to talk about everything old and new about the mistress of plant live Poison Ivy, show pictures, talk about issue and debate on things in a nice manner.

    Poison Ivy is my favorite DC character, so lets get this thread restarted!
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    I have mixed thoughts about her Batgirl appearance. On one hand it's great a writer tried to do something thoughtful and substantial with her, other hand though, wow, almost everything about it was cringe inducing. Awkward dialogue, clumsy characterisation, incessant babbling, three cheeses and a cheesy crust. Poison ICE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepenthes View Post
    I have mixed thoughts about her Batgirl appearance. On one hand it's great a writer tried to do something thoughtful and substantial with her, other other though, wow, almost everything about it was cringe inducing. Awkward dialogue, clunky plotting, incessant babbling, three cheeses and a cheesy crust. Poison ICE.
    I have not read it yet, but I was hopeful. But that fact that you have said that makes me a little worried...we shall see.

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    I just read it...it was alright. That Poison Ice stuff was lame. So I guess Ivy's state of mind changes with the seasons? So like she gets more crazy as winter comes? I don't know how I feel about it. Though I like that Ivy did not kill anyone in that issue (well one person, but spoilers), and she was rather a good person in it as well. I got lost around the baby part. I feel like there is so much more to be told about what is going on with Ivy.

    I am for sure going to ask about it and SDCC this year.

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    Other than the 'Poison Ice' line which I agree wasn't the greatest, everything else in Pamela's appearance I really liked and thought the depiction was really strong. And wasn't the fact around her mother something new for the New 52? I felt that this issue could really be a jumping point to start her own title, if DC were so inclined. I know a thing or two about SAD, and while the emotional affectations were exaggerated per the theme with her powers, I still found this new wrinkle for her character inspired.

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    Here is also a list of my favourite Ivy stories:

    Batman #181 - Beware of Poison Ivy (1966)
    Batman #183 - A Touch of Poison Ivy (1966)
    Shadow of the Bat Annual #03 - Poison Ivy Year One (1995)
    Shadow of the Bat #56-58 - Leaves of Grass (1996)
    Batman: Poison Ivy (1997) *Graphic Novel*
    Gotham Knights #14 The Bet (2001) *Back-up*
    Batman: Harley & Ivy #1-3 (2004)
    Batman & Poison Ivy: Cast Shadows *Graphic Novel*
    Solo #6 Poison *Part of Collection*
    Detective Comics #823 Stalked (2006)
    Batman Strikes #38 Pretty Poison (2007)

    As a general rule I like Ivy when:

    > she's is either less killy or extremely crazy killy
    > less sexualized, emphasis on Beauty/cuteness
    > anti-hero
    > in singles or one shots
    > motherly, yet young, immortal
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    My favourite fan images:



    I like her New 52 costume. It is better than most others.



    This is my favourite costume type. Sexy, but not overtly sexy.



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    I'm a huge fan of Ivy when she isn't written as a two-dimensional generic psychopath.

    Her appearance in the new Batgirl Annual was just about perfect. She's a force of nature. She doesn't consider herself human.....but she clearly still is. She wants to save the world.....her only failing on that front is in her methods.

    Great character. Needs more love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by batGRRRl4ever View Post
    Other than the 'Poison Ice' line which I agree wasn't the greatest, everything else in Pamela's appearance I really liked and thought the depiction was really strong. And wasn't the fact around her mother something new for the New 52? I felt that this issue could really be a jumping point to start her own title, if DC were so inclined. I know a thing or two about SAD, and while the emotional affectations were exaggerated per the theme with her powers, I still found this new wrinkle for her character inspired.
    Her mother was brought up before in the new 52 in the issue that Ivy took over. Detective comics 23.1 I think. I believe it was.

    Also glad to see you back!

    Ya it took me a while to get a hold of it but I kinda like her with SAD. Maybe she had it before the powers, then it grew with the powers. It gives her a mental reason for her crazy, other then her being evil. And its something that can be helped, I am sure. So maybe we can get a more hero Ivy now.

    And I agree this would be a great place to start her own title. Like she goes to arkham, gets out, then her new series starts (written by Gail :P).

    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard-01 View Post
    I'm a huge fan of Ivy when she isn't written as a two-dimensional generic psychopath.

    Her appearance in the new Batgirl Annual was just about perfect. She's a force of nature. She doesn't consider herself human.....but she clearly still is. She wants to save the world.....her only failing on that front is in her methods.

    Great character. Needs more love.
    And I think this issue gave her character reasons for her methods. The SADs tell us why she is the way she is. And it gives them the chance to help her get better. And clearly she cares about humans more then she thinks. She does not kill randomly and can show mercy and care.
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    According to wiki "There are many different treatments for classic (winter-based) seasonal affective disorder, including light therapy, medication, ionized-air administration, cognitive-behavioral therapy and carefully timed supplementation of the hormone melatonin." So Ivy can just spend her down time doing some of this, light therapy, medication and the air thing and she can be going some great things to help people and this earth! She can be like a anti-hero now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Torch View Post
    And I think this issue gave her character reasons for her methods. The SADs tell us why she is the way she is. And it gives them the chance to help her get better. And clearly she cares about humans more then she thinks. She does not kill randomly and can show mercy and care.
    Precisely.

    The "Kill all humans" Ivy is a HORRIBLE joke. It's too simplistic. Saying that she can actually feel and care for people and doesn't want to kill EVERYONE instantaneously makes her a deeper, more interesting character.

    That scene of her weeping as she gently euthanizes a good man for being a better father than hers was absolutely TOUCHING. A villain who can tug at your heartstrings like that is made of pure gold as far as story potential goes. Hell, this issue further drove home the fact that Ivy works better as an anti-hero, or at least an anti-villain, than she does as a flat-out bad guy that Batman's supposed to beat up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard-01 View Post
    Precisely.

    The "Kill all humans" Ivy is a HORRIBLE joke. It's too simplistic. Saying that she can actually feel and care for people and doesn't want to kill EVERYONE instantaneously makes her a deeper, more interesting character.

    That scene of her weeping as she gently euthanizes a good man for being a better father than hers was absolutely TOUCHING. A villain who can tug at your heartstrings like that is made of pure gold as far as story potential goes. Hell, this issue further drove home the fact that Ivy works better as an anti-hero, or at least an anti-villain, than she does as a flat-out bad guy that Batman's supposed to beat up.
    I loved that part! Ivy crying made me sad! It was so touching. And I agree! She is a anti-hero or villain at best!

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