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    Default x-23 appreciation post: my skin has turned to porcelain, to ivory, to steel

    Hi.

    This is the thread dedicated to our favorite member of the wolvie family.

    Created from a damaged genetic sample, X-23 was created to be the perfect killing machine. After breaking out from her creators, her then dying mother gave her the name Laura Kinney.

    Now associated with the X-Men, Laura seeks to leave the assassin behind and become her own person.

    Also, because of today's issue of All New X-Men, I demand fanart of Laura holding an oversized teddy bear

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    “I am vulnerable. Starved for kindness, and when I receive it, I lose my mind.”
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    “When you need to stop an asteroid, you get Superman. When you need to solve a mystery, you call Batman. But when you need to end a war, you get Wonder Woman.”
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    Dangit! RIGHT as I posted my own thread. I even double-checked the boards SEVERAL TIMES before hitting "Post" to make sure no one else got me while I was typing!

    Too bad she's written so badly in that page. It would have been more appropriate if she just went, "RAAAAWR!" or otherwise just growled at the bear.

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    I know right? it was a the same hour
    “I am vulnerable. Starved for kindness, and when I receive it, I lose my mind.”
    — Marjorie Liu, Tiger Eye

    “When you need to stop an asteroid, you get Superman. When you need to solve a mystery, you call Batman. But when you need to end a war, you get Wonder Woman.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by javi150190 View Post
    I know right? it was a the same hour
    Both show 8:27PM for post time on my end.

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    Anyway, the pics I'd used on my thread:




    (Right before Liu screwed the moment up)


    Gotta be one of my favorite pieces of fan art. Dannith absolutely NAILS her.

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    Lack of capitalization in the title has unnerved me.

    I'll be back later though as I love me some X-23 and I feel bad for her that Tyke left the team and she feels like he had abandoned her because she loves him.
    Last edited by Sardorim; 04-30-2014 at 07:03 PM.

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    (Right before Liu screwed the moment up)
    Okay:

    I have a few things to say about that

    Let's face it, comics are weird. It's one of the many reasons why we love them, and as I read further into them I have come to identify severa cathegories of "weird"

    Scary weird: Scott Snyder
    Alienating Weird: Scott LOBDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEE-Sorry (Deep breath) Lobdell
    Head Scratching Weird: Dan Slott, Marjorie Liu and Brian Wood
    Fun Weird: Kieron Gillen, Gail Simone and the Kyost duo
    Gimicky weird: Brian Michael Bendis and the entire editorial of DC comics

    The situation with Laura and Julian is one of the reasons why I consider Liu in the head scratching cathegory. In that type of weird the author does things that makes you wonder what they were intending to do and what was their state of mind.

    If you take Liu's word o why she did what she did I can totally get behind it, but then you get to the actual writting.

    If Laura had said to Juilan the exact thing she later says to Gambit in the same issue ("He meant something to me before") I would have less of an issue, and then there's the fact that Liu admits that the whole scene was from Laura's prespective, making it look less like a break up between the two, and more like a handwave on Laura's part.

    That being said, someone has to fix the writting mess that Hellion has become. Laura literally outgrew him. To quote ASOIAF "Kill the boy and let the man be born"
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    “When you need to stop an asteroid, you get Superman. When you need to solve a mystery, you call Batman. But when you need to end a war, you get Wonder Woman.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoeSacheee View Post
    She's hot.. So.. she is like little sister of wolverine, right? [IMG]http://***********************/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/11/3/smile.gif[/IMG]
    She's his sort of clone (they only had damaged DNA so had to patch in a different person's to grow her, hence her being female), but also his adopted daughter. She is very hot and very damaged as she's had about as bad a life as one could imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoeSacheee View Post
    She's hot.. So.. she is like little sister of wolverine, right? [IMG]http://***********************/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/11/3/smile.gif[/IMG]
    his daughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longshot2000 View Post
    his daughter
    Legally, but we haven't seen much of that dynamic
    “I am vulnerable. Starved for kindness, and when I receive it, I lose my mind.”
    — Marjorie Liu, Tiger Eye

    “When you need to stop an asteroid, you get Superman. When you need to solve a mystery, you call Batman. But when you need to end a war, you get Wonder Woman.”
    — Gail Simone

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    If you want to get REALLY biologically accurate, Laura is the parthenogenetic offspring of Logan's mother, which makes her biologically Logan's sister and technically not actually a clone at all. At least, not one of LOGAN. However their practical relationship is much closer to that of a father and daughter.

    If Laura had said to Juilan the exact thing she later says to Gambit in the same issue ("He meant something to me before") I would have less of an issue, and then there's the fact that Liu admits that the whole scene was from Laura's prespective, making it look less like a break up between the two, and more like a handwave on Laura's part.
    The problem is, we don't even really SEE where and how Laura outgrew him. It all came across as arbitrary and forced (which is why I tend to think it was an editorial mandate as part of severing her relationships with the X-Men prior to shipping her off to Avengers Academy).
    Last edited by Ambaryerno; 04-30-2014 at 07:24 PM.

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