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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarek View Post
    dumbduck, I wish it were that simple. I understand your feelings on the matter but it is not just a matter of reasoning or reverting anything. We can counter some of the hate filled rants in social media but WB/DC is a huge industrial enterprise that has far bigger concerns than ANY perceived comic book pairing. It is not in their radar. There is no entity to reason to. Not one writer to convince. The choices have already been made.
    My advice would be to not worry about it too much. Comic book stories evolve. They are fickle. Ebb and flows, my friend. For instance, before the new52 we had but glimpses. Now you can read an ENTIRE series dedicated to our pairing and that cannot be undone. It is in print. It is being SOLD. It exists. Right now, the ship is not sailing in our direction but, like before, it could steady its course in the future. Not tomorrow mind you, but the medium evolves. In the meantime, BUY the comics that you enjoy. READ the stories that bring you happiness. WATCH the movies/series that you want. Stay positive. Get solace from the sm/ww stories you hold dear the most (and there are plenty to choose from).

    We have some really really amazing panels, stories, animations and fan art that support what we like. I find it amazing! It is not a weird idea. It is different and unique. How cool is that?
    Relish it. And once you do, you will find that everything else is but noise.
    Co-signed.

    Guys we had freaking variant covers that many classic couples never got decades plus merch. They still pushing merch. Freaking Hot Topic had our couple plastered all over for a while. Which canon couple gets that? Not many apart from Batcat and JokerHarley. Together with SuperWonder these are the 3 most marketable DC couples. No contest there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieHard200904 View Post
    It doesn't matter, people have been protesting online at another comic book publisher known as Marvel comics over One More Day. There were still sales, and they have no problem keeping BND as a status quo.
    That may be the case for the core stuff, but they've actually never gotten rid of Peter and MJ's marriage. Before Renew Your Vows was a thing, the daily comic strip had been keeping it going, and still does.

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    People, when I say reverse, it's to try to convince DC to allow 52 Clark and Diana to be their own characters. I personally don't even need a book, just to know that they are out there together in the multiverse. With everything that's coming, I can't believe DC couldn't let us keep them, something to hang on to, something to call our own.

    I don't know what's going to happen in JLAction, but if they end Clark and Diana there we'll be the only ones without a 'real' representation of our 'ship.

    Some of you said that maybe in the future DC will revist Diana and Clark again, or maybe a 'verse with someone 'like' 52 Clark and 'like' 52 Diana. Why? Why, when these characters resonated so much with us? Why delete them from existance and start from scratch when we loved these characters for 5 years?

    That's all I'm saying. I don't need main continuity or even a book, just to know that they were/are real.


    EDIT: No idea what's going to happen in direct to home videos. James Tucker gave us some hope, but a good course of action would be to ask him and other people involved to at least allow their version of Clark and Diana to have a better send off, together, if the worst comes to pass.
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    It's called... "Champion of the oppressed."

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    I don't think they can have a send off in an ongoing narrative, the story/characters must go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    I don't think they can have a send off in an ongoing narrative, the story/characters must go on.
    You're talking about the DTHVideo movies? James Tucker said they wouldn't be 'rebirthing', but if they do, maybe we could keep the New52 Diana and Clark as separate versions that came from their own 'verse there.
    It's called... "Champion of the oppressed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbduck View Post
    You're talking about the DTHVideo movies? James Tucker said they wouldn't be 'rebirthing', but if they do, maybe we could keep the New52 Diana and Clark as separate versions that came from their own 'verse there.
    Sorry, but it doesn't make sense. They are the "official" versions of SM and WW in the DCAU, they can't be retconned as some doppelgangers from elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbduck View Post
    People, when I say reverse, it's to try to convince DC to allow 52 Clark and Diana to be their own characters. I personally don't even need a book, just to know that they are out there together in the multiverse. With everything that's coming, I can't believe DC couldn't let us keep them, something to hang on to, something to call our own.

    I don't know what's going to happen in JLAction, but if they end Clark and Diana there we'll be the only ones without a 'real' representation of our 'ship.

    Some of you said that maybe in the future DC will revist Diana and Clark again, or maybe a 'verse with someone 'like' 52 Clark and 'like' 52 Diana. Why? Why, when these characters resonated so much with us? Why delete them from existance and start from scratch when we loved these characters for 5 years?

    That's all I'm saying. I don't need main continuity or even a book, just to know that they were/are real.
    Curious, why would you need validation from DC? Personally, I just ignore canon stories and continuity that I don't like. I suggest just ignoring whatever DC is doing in Rebirth (hit them where it hurts - their wallets) and stick to New 52 comics and Elseworlds.

    Heck, I am and have always been a huge Dramione shipper (Draco and Hermione from Harry Potter) and I knew that's pretty much got a snowball's chance in hell of happening in canon. Didn't mind. That's what fanfic is for and there are literally thousands of well written Dramione fanfics (and even more of the not so well written ones ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Sorry, but it doesn't make sense. They are the "official" versions of SM and WW in the DCAU, they can't be retconned as some doppelgangers from elsewhere.
    But with the multiversity the possibilities are endless... I see what you're saying. I'd accept that they wouldn't be the 'official' versions. But I understand if the rest of the fandom wouldn't (accept it).

    I understand what you're saying. It didn't fully hit me until now.
    Last edited by dumbduck; 03-20-2017 at 01:03 PM.
    It's called... "Champion of the oppressed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbduck View Post
    But with the multiversity the possibilities are endless... I see what you're saying. I'd accept that they wouldn't be the 'official' versions. But I see if the rest of the fandom wouldn't (accept it).
    It isn't a matter of fandom acceptance, it doesn't make sense from a creative/narrative standpoint. They'll never go for that route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    It isn't a matter of fandom acceptance, it doesn't make sense from a creative/narrative standpoint. They'll never go for that route.
    They went, or are going to come very close to it with 52 Supes though.
    It's called... "Champion of the oppressed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbduck View Post
    They went, or are going to come very close to it with 52 Supes though.
    Superman's treatment in Last Days/Rebirth is another kind of nonsense. I'll better judge the whole stuff after the conclusion of Reborn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dumbduck View Post
    They went, or are going to come very close to it with 52 Supes though.
    But they're aren't going that route with New 52 Clark since it was revealed him and Superdad are the same man split.

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    In the various interviews about the Wonder Woman movie, Patty Jenkins showed a lot of love for the Donner's Supes movie and the Superman character ispired her approach to Diana. "She's my Superman," Patty said.
    I guess she wouldn't have problem to have Superman and Wonder Woman talk to each other. :-)

    And that's what happens if two Donner's fans (Patty and Geoff) make a movie together...







    Superman will also sort of have a role in Diana's present day arc because he's the biggest plot device of the entire DCEU. :-)

    "And in Justice League, she’s fully evolved into someone who’s embraced mankind, partly through Superman’s sacrifice. She’s like, ‘All right, I’ve got to pick it up.’ ”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/m...east/95949150/

    Remind me of Infinite Crisis: "... the last time you really inspired anyone was when you were dead." :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    That may be the case for the core stuff, but they've actually never gotten rid of Peter and MJ's marriage. Before Renew Your Vows was a thing, the daily comic strip had been keeping it going, and still does.
    I have no idea what you are talking about. Like I said, alternate universes. Not in the main 616. Newspaper and RYV are separate realities like the Millerverse is not the Rebirth universe. Please read what I said before you bother posting.
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    Jean Paul Gaultier refers to Superman and Wonder Woman as the Super Power Couple

    Promo for the fragrances: https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3fzGTDC0y/

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