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    Astonishing Member Bogotazo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
    Pa Kent was the worst character of DCEU, he was saved by Costner's acting.

    Jonathan Kent: You have to keep this side of yourself a secret.

    Clark Kent: What was I supposed to do? Let them die?

    Jonathan Kent: Maybe...

    Seriously? This is the guy who raised Superman?

    What was I supposed to do?
    Just let them die?

    Maybe....there's more at stake here than just our lives Clark, or the lives than those around us.

    I didn't see as many complaints when Pa Kent called Clark dressing as Superman "playing dress up" in Birthright

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
    Pa Kent was the worst character of DCEU, he was saved by Costner's acting.

    Jonathan Kent: You have to keep this side of yourself a secret.

    Clark Kent: What was I supposed to do? Let them die?

    Jonathan Kent: Maybe...

    Seriously? This is the guy who raised Superman?
    I can see why fans hate it. Superman is Superman because of his parents. The Kents play such an important role in Superman that their importance cannot be understated.

    At the same time i am more forgiving then other fans. I don't like this take but it is an interesting take. It strikes home in this 21st Century world where people leave in fear and mistrust. When he says 'Maybe' it simply means that he is a decent person. He wants to protect his son. That's the first and prime motive of any parent. Second, Clark's presence has brought something much bigger then the Kents, Clark and maybe even the lives of the people. He is the answer to the question that 'Are we alone in this Universe?' That question has such a fundamental and deep implications to the world and the society. Religion and man's understanding and his place in the universe is brought into question. Clark is here for a purpose. Jonathan knew that someday he will become 'Superman'. Look at the last montage. Jon knew the inherent goodness of his son's heart. But before Clark acts upon that he must find those answers. In short, he shall not be hasty.

    At the same time he can't say from his heart that he can let the children die. Protecting their children is one thing but allowing others to die? That's unacceptable. Not knowing the answer he says maybe. I like that. He does not say 'maybe' because the kids can die.

    Its real and is an interesting take. I like it but at the same time i don't like it as something which is responsible for creating Superman. Jonathan Kent's fatherly advice is so important for the Superman mythos that such a thing appears to be an anathema for everything that is Superman.

    I get why people hate it. But i can see what they were trying to do. Its bold. Its interesting. Whether it worked or not i can't decide. Pa Kent appears like a real person here. But does he appear like Pa Kent? No. I am always of the view that Superman is such that he takes the best of humanity within him. Such people like Pa Kent of comics exist in real life. Such people existed in 1978 just as they do now. The world needs such people.
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    I watched "Justice League" for the second time yesterday. I still stand for my original opinion on this movie, but I must say that the difference between Snyder's original footage and Whedon's reshoots gets even more glaring in a second viewing. And I'm not talking about CGI, green screen or whatever, I'm talking about tone and quality of direction/writing. This movie looks like a "Zack Snyder movie", but it doesn't FEELS like one. With "Man of Steel" and "Batman v Superman", I left the theater in awe. With "Justice League", I left feeling...empty.
    "Longtime fans will read the book and bitch about it NO MATTER WHAT."
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