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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Crown View Post
    Brian Azzarello's run was one of best books of the New 52 and one of the best Wonder Woman runs. But now everything was retconned as a "lie" (whatever that means) just to please Greg Rucka's ego and fans who want Wonder Woman to be "the perfect princess from the perfect island full of perfect women". And if someone will refuse to watch "Wonder Woman" just because they used the New 52 origin, well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIFTY-TWO (52) View Post
    Probably because it's just weird. Audiences will see Diana as a clay doll made on the beach and brought to life. Not even the old 70's TV show went there. Frankly, the DCEU is using both origins. The clay doll story is just a cover story for the truth: that she's the daughter of god.
    Super Friends was the only one that used the clay origin that I can recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    Super Friends was the only one that used the clay origin that I can recall.
    The 2009 animated movie also used it.

    Actually, it used what I consider the perfect compromise between the two origins. Hippolyta sculpted a baby. She held it up. Lightning struck the baby. The baby came to life.

    Sure, the movie never explicitly states that Zeus sent that lightning bolt, but come on! Who is the "lightning guy" in Greek myth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I wonder if they're doing this because they want an easy explanation for Diana's divinity or if they just want to stick with that one aspect of the New 52.

    I just hope there's more reason for it, narrative, then wanting to attach a male representation of the patriarchy to a defiantly feminist hero.
    I've yet to meet a feminist who didn't have a father. Hippolyta, herself, is the daughter of Ares in the myths.
    Diana being feminist does not mean she's anti-male.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard-01 View Post
    The 2009 animated movie also used it.
    Yep. Slipped my mind.

    Actually, it used what I consider the perfect compromise between the two origins. Hippolyta sculpted a baby. She held it up. Lightning struck the baby. The baby came to life.

    Sure, the movie never explicitly states that Zeus sent that lightning bolt, but come on! Who is the "lightning guy" in Greek myth?
    Works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard-01 View Post
    The 2009 animated movie also used it.

    Actually, it used what I consider the perfect compromise between the two origins. Hippolyta sculpted a baby. She held it up. Lightning struck the baby. The baby came to life.

    Sure, the movie never explicitly states that Zeus sent that lightning bolt, but come on! Who is the "lightning guy" in Greek myth?
    In the movie, Diana actually tells Steve that her mother formed her from clay and Zeus brought her to life.

    Also, in the JL series, the story was Hippolyta and Hades were her parents (as Hippolyta had a love affair with Hades). He tells Diana that he helped Hippolyta form her from clay. Diana only cares that she was raised by her mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Joe Manganiello's Now Unsure Whether He'll Play Deathstroke In THE BATMAN: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batma...batman-a149719
    Why is no one talking about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlanta96 View Post
    Why is no one talking about this?
    I don't think that there's much to say about this yet to be honest. The 'sky is falling down again!' crowd might get some leverage out of it but no-one else.

    As soon as the movie changed hands, director wise, there were bound to be shake-ups and a slight change in creative direction. Will this affect Manganiello and Deathstroke? Maybe, but we don't know that yet. I don't think people want to jump to conclusions about this. People were declaring doom for the movie after Affleck stepped down, only to look a bit silly when Reeves was announced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlanta96 View Post
    Why is no one talking about this?
    Maybe because there's nothing to talk about? Deathstroke/Manganiello will still be in JL. After that however, the actor doesn't know when he'll be reprising the role. What more is there to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Know View Post
    Maybe because there's nothing to talk about? Deathstroke/Manganiello will still be in JL. After that however, the actor doesn't know when he'll be reprising the role. What more is there to say?
    Exactly. Nobody knows anything yet. For all we know the actor could be getting a phone call from Matt Reeves right at this very moment .

    Extremely unlikely but stranger things have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIFTY-TWO (52) View Post
    Probably because it's just weird. Audiences will see Diana as a clay doll made on the beach and brought to life. Not even the old 70's TV show went there. Frankly, the DCEU is using both origins. The clay doll story is just a cover story for the truth: that she's the daughter of god.
    Not that this will stop me seeing the movie, but I have to question how anyone can think audiences will find the clay origin any weirder than anything else in superhero movies. Or how it is apparently anti male.

    And making the clay origin a lie is not using both origins

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlashingSabre View Post
    So:http://comicbook.com/2017/03/06/wond...dceu-revealed/

    That's a pretty big strike against my interest in the movie. I may end up just skipping it, after all.
    I loved the New 52 version...especially arc about First Born and all - I am glad that Azzarello decided to do that. Hopefully, we will get more of that in the movies (maybe not now, but in WW sequels?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Know View Post
    Maybe because there's nothing to talk about? Deathstroke/Manganiello will still be in JL. After that however, the actor doesn't know when he'll be reprising the role. What more is there to say?
    Maybe a bit of concern that the main villain could be dropping out of the freaking film?
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    I'd be fine with Deathstroke dropping out and rather have a more traditional member of the rogues gallery or from the DCU. I want a more crime/noir/detective Batman movie and less of an Rocksteady inspired Batman. Maybe because I've read a lot of Steve Englehart and Mike W. Barr Batman lately. It's almost been 10 years since the last great Batman movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlanta96 View Post
    Why is no one talking about this?
    I think this is more "wait & see."

    I actually feel relieved any time a DC film in development puts on the breaks.

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