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    Quote Originally Posted by Danileriver23 View Post
    ok, soooo I didn't read thunderbolts where I'm assuming everything with bucky and kobik happened; is bucky REALLY dead or MIA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danileriver23 View Post
    ok, soooo I didn't read thunderbolts where I'm assuming everything with bucky and kobik happened; is bucky REALLY dead or MIA?
    That's the $20,000 (or whatever the amount, depending upon inflation) question that's being left up into the air during the SE Event; although the 'fate' of Kobik was resolved (and not in a most pleasant way) within THUNDERBOLTS #12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    He also turned Darren Cross into Yellowjacket at the tail-end of his Ant-Man run.

    It also probably played a part in why Claire Temple showed up in his Sam Wilson run. Or Red Skull becoming more associated with Hydra.
    Things are starting to make a whole lot more sense now. That would probably make him one of the most MCU influenced writer that I can think of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danileriver23 View Post
    ok, soooo I didn't read thunderbolts where I'm assuming everything with bucky and kobik happened; is bucky REALLY dead or MIA?
    They're "dead"

    But we all know Bucky's deathproof so

    Personally believe Kobik saved Bucky and he's rooted deep into Hydra right now waiting for his chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rui no onna View Post
    In the meantime, my fairytale ending post-Secret Empire.

    http://milady-666.tumblr.com/post/15...buckynat-kobik





    Those are cute, haha.

    SE has been going on for 1 year in comic book time? WTF? So Bucky has been dead for 1 year? That's interesting.

    Also, we don't know if Clint and Natasha are having a relationship or if they're just pretty close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post
    Those are cute, haha.

    SE has been going on for 1 year in comic book time? WTF? So Bucky has been dead for 1 year? That's interesting.

    Also, we don't know if Clint and Natasha are having a relationship or if they're just pretty close.
    Well, they've been shown kissing, so I'm guessing it's a relationship.

    The weird thing is, in #2, we have them bringing up Bucky's death as a possible motivation for why Natasha is acting like this, so it's just really hard to gauge what's going on as far as relationships and memories are concerned. Especially when Natasha calls him "Bucky" instead of James.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post
    Those are cute, haha.

    SE has been going on for 1 year in comic book time? WTF? So Bucky has been dead for 1 year? That's interesting.

    Also, we don't know if Clint and Natasha are having a relationship or if they're just pretty close.
    Yeah, they are. I absolutely love the fanart. Lol, I think Chris Samnee reblogged it on his Tumblr and mentioned he had to do a double-take (probably because the art looked a lot like his). XD

    I forgot where the 1-year was mentioned but yeah, there was a pretty long gap between the events of SE #0 and SE #1. Clint and Natasha, I feel, are two people who were drawn together and who comfort each other after their losses. That said, I dunno but I also kinda get the feeling there's a certain ruthlessness in Natasha that while she considers Clint a very close friend and holds deep affection for him, she's not above manipulating him to act as leader for the Underground.

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    I like Natasha better with Bucky--not Clint. Love this fan-art, too.

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    Wow, whoever drew that fanart should go pro! That's great!

    Though I can't see that scenario happening. Even if Nat and Buckaroo are together after SE, there's no way they'll be playing happy families with Kobik. Two reasons, one, she's too damn dangerous (once they fix things, she's surely getting dismantled again). And two, Natasha Romanoff, a mother? I just can't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Wow, whoever drew that fanart should go pro! That's great!

    Though I can't see that scenario happening. Even if Nat and Buckaroo are together after SE, there's no way they'll be playing happy families with Kobik. Two reasons, one, she's too damn dangerous (once they fix things, she's surely getting dismantled again). And two, Natasha Romanoff, a mother? I just can't see it.
    Probably, more like handler.

    I can imagine her being a mom. Not the domesticated pancakes type, though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Well, they've been shown kissing, so I'm guessing it's a relationship.

    The weird thing is, in #2, we have them bringing up Bucky's death as a possible motivation for why Natasha is acting like this, so it's just really hard to gauge what's going on as far as relationships and memories are concerned. Especially when Natasha calls him "Bucky" instead of James.
    How many times did they show them kissing? Because SE#2 is the only one I'm aware of, and Clint seemed to be taken by surprise like it wasn't a common thing they do often. He even felt suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimJ87D View Post
    How many times did they show them kissing? Because SE#2 is the only one I'm aware of, and Clint seemed to be taken by surprise like it wasn't a common thing they do often. He even felt suspicious.
    It was kinda implied in SE #1. In SE #2, Clint seems more suspicious because they were just arguing about killing Steve that's why he wasn't expecting her to just kiss him.
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    "Who wouldn't go out with the Black Widow? I'd strangle a litter of kittens for one dinner with her!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterboy View Post
    That would be really cool to see as a legitimate cover .

    Unless it already has been and I'm just forgetting .

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    Perkins is great. I really would like to see him drawing a Winter Soldier series someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterboy View Post
    Perkins is great. I really would like to see him drawing a Winter Soldier series someday.
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    Very close to Steve Epting art, I like it.

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