View Poll Results: Who is your favourite 616 Marvel LGBT character?

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  • ANOLE [Victor Borkowski]

    21 3.19%
  • BLING! [Roxanne ‘Roxy’ Washington]

    12 1.82%
  • CULLEN BLOODSTONE

    19 2.88%
  • DAKEN AKIHIRO

    37 5.61%
  • HULKLING [Theodore ‘Teddy’ Altman]

    33 5.01%
  • KARMA [Xi’an Coy Mahn]

    35 5.31%
  • KAROLINA DEAN

    39 5.92%
  • LOKI LAUFEYSON, God of Mischief

    56 8.50%
  • MOONDRAGON [Heather Douglas]

    35 5.31%
  • MYSTIQUE [Raven Darkholme]

    99 15.02%
  • NORTHSTAR [Jean-Paul Beaubier]

    52 7.89%
  • PRODIGY [David Alleyne]

    19 2.88%
  • RICTOR [Julio Esteban Ricter]

    33 5.01%
  • SHATTERSTAR [Gaveedra-7]

    40 6.07%
  • WICCAN [William ‘Billy’ Kaplan], the Demiurge

    129 19.58%
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  1. #12811

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    So, based on a response Rosenberg made to some tweets I did criticizing New Mutants: Dead Souls, it doesn't look like Karma's going to be a big player in the last two issues. I complained about the fact that the story he's telling belongs to Karma, and he said there are reasons the story isn't about her. And ugh. There's no good reason for it not to be about her. Her dead brother who she killed comes back from the dead seeking vengeance against her, and somehow the story isn't about her? It's not like queer women of colour get a lot of stories from Marvel in the first place, and now a story that belongs to one gets handed off to a white girl instead? I love Illyana, but this ain't her story. She's got a shit-ton of stories of her own that can be told. (I still want an Illyana/Kitty road trip comic.) Giving her one that belongs to one of Marvel's few queer women of colour is total bullshit.

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    Maybe that's not Karma?
    I mean, I dunno, the story isn't OVER yet.
    I've got my JUSTICE-FOR-KARMA-outrage-pooh ready for slinging BUT ONLY when the story ENDS COMPLETELY and we learn ALL THE DETAILS. Until then I'm not going to preemptively key gnash and tweet snarl.
    Those industry folk get enough nonsense "attacks" from the "fans" as it is.

    Like, during Secret Wars there were a lot of titles that were a bit misleading in who the focus characters would be -- like the Runaways book and Inferno, for example, but despite my own belief of who SHOULD be the focus, those stories proved entertaining.

    Don't get me wrong, once again, I TOTALLY understand the vantage point and the argument and I'm already wearing my feminist button and my equality blazer and I've bought my tickets to the "WTF" show, should this wind up being nonsense, but its not over so I'm just sidelining with the rest of the pleebz till such fury fires are appropriately lit.
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    So Rictor didn't actually die, yay. Doesn't really change the fact that what was ostensibly a funeral issue for Julio was less about him, his life and his loved ones, and more about Magik and everyone comforting Magik.

    We're 4 issues in to a 6 issue miniseries, and Xi'an still hasn't had an active role in the plot. Even if this is all some sort of master plan she's orchestrated that doesn't make it better that she's taken a backseat behind Illyana for the majority of this story. Get off of her demon dick already.

    And as an aside have I expressed my displeasure about Tran's boring new skinless look? It takes away any distinguishing features he had like being a Vietnamese Male or the pink psychic power signature he shared with his sister, and makes him as generic as possible.

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    "Get off her demon dick already" gives me life. Thanks Bee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    Iceman's book is coming back this September, still written by Sina Grace.

    https://news.marvel.com/comics/89958...his-september/
    I skipped on iceman because I found the art to be sub-par and the stories seemed more soap opera-y than superhero-y, which works for some, but not for me. However, with the art change and the brief synopsis this looks like a book I can get into an I'm happy. Iceman used to be one of my favorite x-men until the whole controversy about him being gay. Since then I feel like everybody is trying to reestablish him and make their mark instead of being the fun dorky guy I used to have. I hope this is a return to form.

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    Hey since Iceman is coming back and we know Sina Grace wasn't pleased about the overall execution the first time around. Do you think he's gonna try and flesh out the Iceman/Dakken Ship more? I mean we know he ships it. I personally am just happy it's coming back I enjoyed this comic.

    Now just give me a YA reboot and I'm happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    Hey since Iceman is coming back and we know Sina Grace wasn't pleased about the overall execution the first time around. Do you think he's gonna try and flesh out the Iceman/Dakken Ship more? I mean we know he ships it. I personally am just happy it's coming back I enjoyed this comic.

    Now just give me a YA reboot and I'm happy.
    Hopefully not.
    I've been wondering whether Guggenheim was setting up the possibility of a Bobby/new Pyro pairing, but I think probably not.
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    Ditch Dakken. He's my boy but let Bunn keep him for a while so we don't end two of him running around the planet again.

    Quote Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare View Post
    Hopefully not.
    I've been wondering whether Guggenheim was setting up the possibility of a Bobby/new Pyro pairing, but I think probably not.
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    Bobby should ditch both Daken and new Pyro. He can do better

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    Seeing that Iceman is coming back made me dance around my office earlier. I cannot wait.

    I'd like to see Daken back, but further down the line. Let's keep seeing him get redeemed elsewhere before he comes back. Still not sold on him being THE love interest, but I'm not against it either. I still wanna see a Northstar affair, cos I just love soap opera style drama in my books!

    Guggenheim can just piss off. I've just no time for him or Rosenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiamatty View Post
    I disagree. A writer who reveals a main character as asexual is going to get some controversy for it, but future writers aren't going to get heat just for using the character after that. Future writers not understanding what asexuality even is is a concern, but I don't think it would be likely to be too big an issue. And it's not going to be particularly limiting. Shit, it doesn't even prevent romantic stories, since asexuals are still capable of romantic feelings. (Hell, there's even Grey Ace, people who experience some sexual attraction.)

    Ace supporting characters are good, too, of course. But I don't think Nadia being asexual would cause the problems you think it would.
    I disagree back.

    Agree to disagree I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Guggenheim can't wr...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    Ditch Dakken. He's my boy but let Bunn keep him for a while so we don't end two of him running around the planet again.



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    Quote Originally Posted by legion_quest View Post
    Seeing that Iceman is coming back made me dance around my office earlier. I cannot wait.

    I'd like to see Daken back, but further down the line. Let's keep seeing him get redeemed elsewhere before he comes back. Still not sold on him being THE love interest, but I'm not against it either. I still wanna see a Northstar affair, cos I just love soap opera style drama in my books!

    Guggenheim can just piss off. I've just no time for him or Rosenberg
    Tamaki's version of Daken is close to Taylor's but then Bunn is planning to have him join Magneto's new crew. Let the villains keep him. Bobby should've learned his lesson from Xavier hooking up with Mystique and Scott hooking up with Emma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    Tamaki's version of Daken is close to Taylor's but then Bunn is planning to have him join Magneto's new crew. Let the villains keep him. Bobby should've learned his lesson from Xavier hooking up with Mystique and Scott hooking up with Emma.
    Oh, I didnt know that. That's depressing. I want neither Mags or Daken as villains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
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    Guggs can't write. Just, like, at all. The guy's a total hack, one of the worst writers Marvel's ever had. He's down in the dregs with Chuck Austen.

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