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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post

    But Marvel did something with it for decades. They have a proven track record for handling Conan. Do you really think they would spend time and money to get the license if they were then going to half ass it? Do you really think that there are no top notch creative teams that really want to work on Conan?
    Good point.
    When Marvel got the Conan license in the 70s they got a top creative team for the stories.
    Roy Thomas was like the second best writer of Marvel (only behind Stan Lee) and John Buscema illustrated lots of Conan stories.
    John Buscema was like the Jim Lee of the time,he was viewed as a top artist,he was illustrating Avengers and illustrating new series as Silver Surfer before illustrating Conan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamgg View Post
    I will happily buy this and any other future releases they plan on putting out. I used to have the entire first series plus her 1st appearance in What If but sold them all years ago as I got rid of most of my single issues. It will be nice to re-read them. It was a fun series, DeFalco always does a good job, and the art by Frenz & Oliffe was nice to look at as well. Fun stories, done in a throwback style to classic Marvel super-heroics.
    Yeah it was real fresh and a unique title for the time. I hope it still holds up to day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Craig View Post
    Well I thought there were more issues. My memory is foggy as I didn't read it month in/out.

    Maybe an Omni will come.
    Pretty sure Marvel will just release with the volumes with around 15 issue per volume like the first one here. Maybe less in later volumes. First one will collect The What if story issue 0, issue 1/2 and issue 1-15
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteshark View Post
    Good point.
    When Marvel got the Conan license in the 70s they got a top creative team for the stories.
    Roy Thomas was like the second best writer of Marvel (only behind Stan Lee) and John Buscema illustrated lots of Conan stories.
    John Buscema was like the Jim Lee of the time,he was viewed as a top artist,he was illustrating Avengers and illustrating new series as Silver Surfer before illustrating Conan.
    the 70s really was the time for word and sorcery but they might see a potential in it now because of Game of thrones. Not sure about where the movie rights are right now but if this means there is a good Conan movie coming (oh dear the last one was really bad, poor Momoa) and some new comics with top talent then yeah, great, I'm all in. I guess just this all around celebration rubbed me the wrong way, not just here but articles everywhere call it a homecoming like when Spidey went back to them after years of mishandling by Sony.

    Also, I was thinking about this yesterday, but I just can't see a logical reason for Conan to be connected to the MU in any way. Sometimes I can see direct link between pulp and superheroes (Shadow/Batman) but while Conan is an archetype I don't think he directly influenced much in the MU.
    I might be wrong again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balakin View Post
    the 70s really was the time for word and sorcery but they might see a potential in it now because of Game of thrones. Not sure about where the movie rights are right now but if this means there is a good Conan movie coming (oh dear the last one was really bad, poor Momoa) and some new comics with top talent then yeah, great, I'm all in. I guess just this all around celebration rubbed me the wrong way, not just here but articles everywhere call it a homecoming like when Spidey went back to them after years of mishandling by Sony.

    Also, I was thinking about this yesterday, but I just can't see a logical reason for Conan to be connected to the MU in any way. Sometimes I can see direct link between pulp and superheroes (Shadow/Batman) but while Conan is an archetype I don't think he directly influenced much in the MU.
    I might be wrong again
    Conan as far as i know have not influenced much the MU,the stories were not linked to the main MU stories.
    The exceptions were the What If stories.So i guess the new Conan stories by Marvel will be the same as the stories from the 70s.
    Conan being connected in the MU would make for a sword and sorcery comic book in the MU something that would improve the diversity of stories but then again there are other Marvel Super Heroes as Black Knight that can feature in a comic book like that.
    I see Marvel buying back the Conan license as cool,because there are many older Marvel comics of Conan that i always wanted to read and this way i can start collecting them in new Tpbs or Omnibuses.
    New stories of Conan by a top creative team would be great as well.But i think it wold be better if the new stories would be as the stories from the 70s without being connected to the MU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteshark View Post
    Conan as far as i know have not influenced much the MU,the stories were not linked to the main MU stories.
    The exceptions were the What If stories.So i guess the new Conan stories by Marvel will be the same as the stories from the 70s.
    Conan being connected in the MU would make for a sword and sorcery comic book in the MU something that would improve the diversity of stories but then again there are other Marvel Super Heroes as Black Knight that can feature in a comic book like that.
    I see Marvel buying back the Conan license as cool,because there are many older Marvel comics of Conan that i always wanted to read and this way i can start collecting them in new Tpbs or Omnibuses.
    New stories of Conan by a top creative team would be great as well.But i think it wold be better if the new stories would be as the stories from the 70s without being connected to the MU.
    Didn't DH reprint those old MArvel series?

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    I rather enjoyed the Momoa led Conan film. It was about 15min too long but enjoyable.
    I know I'm in a minority camp on that opinion.

    I've floated in/out of reading Conan tales at DH and found some late 80s/early 90s Conan from Marvel in .50 cent bins way back in the day.
    I've never read the classic 70s tales so if getting the rights back means new collections, especially as an Omni, I'm all on board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balakin View Post
    Didn't DH reprint those old MArvel series?
    Dark Horse has reprinted the main Conan series in full as well as many of the supporting series. Full guide here.

    Very excited for all this stuff to hit Marvel Unlimited, as it did for Dark Horse Star Wars material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr`Orange View Post
    That promo picture looks like they are going to pull him in the MU.

    I can only guess that Disney has some movie / TV series planned or they would never have bothered with the comic license.
    Yes, it kind of does look like they want to pull him into the MU or it's just a promotional piece.

    I also think that Disney/Marvel are geared towards putting together a TV series rather than a movie, in particular since the last movie was a flop (what a terrible movie it was) and also one of the main reasons for acquiring Fox was to expand their TV possibilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balakin View Post
    the 70s really was the time for word and sorcery but they might see a potential in it now because of Game of thrones. Not sure about where the movie rights are right now but if this means there is a good Conan movie coming (oh dear the last one was really bad, poor Momoa) and some new comics with top talent then yeah, great, I'm all in. I guess just this all around celebration rubbed me the wrong way, not just here but articles everywhere call it a homecoming like when Spidey went back to them after years of mishandling by Sony.

    Also, I was thinking about this yesterday, but I just can't see a logical reason for Conan to be connected to the MU in any way. Sometimes I can see direct link between pulp and superheroes (Shadow/Batman) but while Conan is an archetype I don't think he directly influenced much in the MU.
    I might be wrong again
    Quote Originally Posted by whiteshark View Post
    Conan as far as i know have not influenced much the MU,the stories were not linked to the main MU stories.
    The exceptions were the What If stories.So i guess the new Conan stories by Marvel will be the same as the stories from the 70s.
    Conan being connected in the MU would make for a sword and sorcery comic book in the MU something that would improve the diversity of stories but then again there are other Marvel Super Heroes as Black Knight that can feature in a comic book like that.
    I see Marvel buying back the Conan license as cool,because there are many older Marvel comics of Conan that i always wanted to read and this way i can start collecting them in new Tpbs or Omnibuses.
    New stories of Conan by a top creative team would be great as well.But i think it wold be better if the new stories would be as the stories from the 70s without being connected to the MU.
    I really don't see Conan in the MU working that well and think it would be kind of awkward. I do think that Marvel will take pretty good care of him and he is a much more popular character than Angela and has serious history with Marvel. I believe they may also start with putting out an Omnibus or two and/or the Epic Collection.

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    Default Marvel Collected Editions Sales - December 2017

    The complete estimated comic book sales figures for December 2017 are in (please note this list only details those comics sold to North American Comics Shops as reported by Diamond). Ive listed below the Marvel OHC/Omnibus/MMWs as well as the larger TPB collections such as the Epic, Ultimate and Complete lines that made the list, detailing the position, title and estimated sales. I havent included any reentries.

    46. Amazing Spider-Man: The Clone Conspiracy TPB - 1,508
    59. X-Men Classic Omnibus - 1,274
    67 Marvel Masterworks: The Fantastic Four HC Vol. 19 - 1,153
    73. Deadpool Classic Vol. 20: Ultimate Deadpool TPB - 1,078
    80. The Punsher Epic Collection Vol. 7: Capital Punishment - 1,024
    88. Black Panther: Panthers Quest - 997
    91. Star Wars Legends Epic Collection Vol. 3: The New Republic - 987
    99. Doctor Strange OHC Vol. 1 - 941
    100. Thor By Jason Aaron & Russell Dauterman OHC Vol. 2 - 931
    104. Captain America By Mark Waid & Ron Garney Omnibus - 896
    112. Black Panther The Man Without Fear: The Complete Collection - 855
    144. Wolverine By Daniel Way: The Complete Collection Vol. 3 - 658
    146. Dark Avengers By Brian Michael Bendis: The Complete Collection - 655
    178. Doctor Strange: Lords of Fear TPB - 543
    184. Guardians of the Galaxy OHC Vol. 4 - 538
    198. Spider-Man Brand New Day: The Complete Collection Vol. 4 - 493
    210. Planet of The Apes Archive HC Vol. 2 Beast On The Planet of Apes (BOOM) - 471
    211. Marvel Mangaverse Complete Collection - 468
    340. Marvel Cinematic Universe Guidebook: The Good, The Bad, The Guardians OHC - 313

    For the sake of comparison, below are DCs Omnibus sales in December 2017:

    Jack Kirbys Fourth World Omnibus - 1,854; Batgirl The Bronze Age Omnibus Vol. 1 - 817; Green Arrow The Golden Age Omnibus Vol. 1 593; Justice League of America The Detroit Era Omnibus - 583

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    For the last year & a half or so I kind of got on a Conan kick. I'd never read any of that material as a kid, and was curious to give it a try. For all intents and purposes, Marvel really made Conan the successful IP he is today. Sure the genesis is there in the REH novellas, but the Marvel guys really fleshed the character out and made him into a pop culture icon starting in the early 1970s. Before Marvel, he was basically a throwaway pulp character. I'd go so far as to postulate that if it weren't for Marvel, Roy Thomas in particular, probably no one in the mainstream would even know who Conan is today.

    So long story, slightly shorter, I decided to give the character a try with some of the DH reprints of the classic 1970s Marvel stories. Over time I picked up second hand copies of the two BWS HCs, and most of the Chronicles of Conan TPBs put out by DH over the years. I also picked up some of the REH novels pre-owned off amazon for cheap.

    I liked most of the comic book material I read so far, but was a bit let down by the presentation in DH's reprints. I'm a long time Marvel Zombie and am familiar with their top notch reproduction of classic stories featured in the Epic, MMW, and Omnibus series of books, so I had high expectations. I couldn't get my head around DH not including covers in their reprints! (At least in the first few collections). Also some of the more modern recoloring was kind of garish in spots. In summary, while it was nice to read these old comics, the presentation just wasn't that great.

    Story-wise from the comics, I mostly liked what I read but Roy Thomas' scripting can be a grind to read over and over, so I would read one volume, move on to something else, then come back to Conan for another volume a few weeks later, etc. I didn't like the REH novellas. I felt they were too "over written" for lack of a better term. And it didn't help the stories were non-linear. In one novella, Conan is a barbarian, in another he's a king, in another he's a pirate. I found them kind of hard to get into on a consistent basis.

    My favorites, out of what I've read, were the Frost Giant's Daughter, the Tower of the Elephant, and some of the later stories Thomas did in his return to the character in the 1990s near the end of Conan's original comic series (the adventures of Conan as a teen, etc). I also liked the Marvel King Conan series featuring Conan as an aged ruler, with his son at his side, but I haven't finished those just yet.

    Really looking forward to Marvel's forthcoming reprints. Marvel did an amazing job getting the MOKFU series back into print after decades of languishing in comic book limbo and I am sure they will do just as well or better with Conan! Now my only conundrum is: do I sell the DH collections & wait for Marvel's, or hold on to them? Ah the life of a comic collector....

    Lastly, Conan is considered part of the mainstream MU ... just in the Hyborean age prior to recorded history. I didn't remember it until I read the CBR article, but he did have some minor sporadic appearances (non-What If) in the mainstream MU modern times. Even an FF issue near the end of the DeFalco/Ryan run. Check it out:

    https://www.cbr.com/conan-marvel-com...st-crossovers/

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    Anyone else experiencing delays with IST in shippings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Fi View Post
    Anyone else experiencing delays with IST in shippings?
    I placed an order a week and a half ago and mine came in no time. Depending on your location maybe delays are due to the winter storms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Fi View Post
    Anyone else experiencing delays with IST in shippings?
    When you say delays, how long have you been waiting? If I recall, you're from Brazil, so I would expect you to have a "longish" wait. I live in Poland and have waited up to around 45 days at one time or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffi Ol D'Arcy View Post
    When you say delays, how long have you been waiting? If I recall, you're from Brazil, so I would expect you to have a "longish" wait. I live in Poland and have waited up to around 45 days at one time or another.
    Yep. I've been purchasing for them for almost a year now and it usually takes a few weeks to get here. But I've placed an order before Christmas and tracking shows it hasn't even been updated once, which means it's still in the US, hasn't even reached the first USPS facility (Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS, USPS Awaiting Item). I've also place another order on January, 8 and they still haven't completed scanning the books for shipment. I guess a few of them might be out of stock, but still. They say on the website that it usually takes 3 business days for that.

    grahamgg is probably on to something. Maybe it's duo to the winter storms and shipping has been put on hold (re the first order, they probably just taking their time with the second one)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffi Ol D'Arcy View Post
    The complete estimated comic book sales figures for December 2017 are in....

    59. X-Men Classic Omnibus - 1,274
    104. Captain America By Mark Waid & Ron Garney Omnibus - 896

    For the sake of comparison, below are DC’s Omnibus sales in December 2017:

    Jack Kirby’s Fourth World Omnibus - 1,854;
    Batgirl The Bronze Age Omnibus Vol. 1 - 817;
    Green Arrow The Golden Age Omnibus Vol. 1 – 593;
    Justice League of America The Detroit Era Omnibus - 583
    X-Men Classic still sold 1200 copies, I'd say that's about what many expected.
    Captain America by Waid however, I had hoped would do 1K at least

    DC
    Considering the 4th World printing errors there are many of us upset for jumping so quickly. DC better have improved it's quality control already. Strong number.
    Pleased at the Batgirl number and the Green Arrow came just shy of what I wanted which was 600.
    With all the CW characters on display in the Detroit Era Omni I'm a but surprised more didn't jump on this one.
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