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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    The black line (approve) goes up after those statements were made and the red line (disapprove) goes down. His two highest approval ratings (39.7 and 39.5) happened right after the "both sides" and "DACA" announcements.
    I assume that you mean "highest in August," since 39.7 is not higher than the average approval rating in July.

    How much time is supposed to elapse after the arrow "Nice Nazis" points at the peak in the disapproval ratings? The designer has the NN-arrow point pointing right at the peak, and that connotes to me that he's trying to say "this is the disapproval rating right around the time of the statement." If that's not the meaning, it's damned sloppy.

    If the peak in disapproval is not due to the alleged Nice Nazis remark, what is supposed to have caused the peak in the first place? The controversial remarks about transgenders serving in the military on July 26? But hmm, if the persons polled were pissed at that, why would they have done a turnaround and suddenly become pleased at Trump's defense of Nice Neo-Confederates? (This was, as I've said earlier, the actual, rather than the reported, context of Trump's remarks.)

    All of which just demonstrates that polls are dubious, and graphs based on polls even more so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
    Hurricane Jose is really a tropical storm, but the news continues to call it a hurricane. There is no there there unless we say so.
    ... 105 MPH winds make it CAT2.

    Have fun closing your eyes on that one ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    this was the same during the campaign

    every time he says or does something horrible or indecent, his numbers go up among certain people

    I honestly do not trust most polls, its not like they "do" anything
    Longterm data is the most relevant and the only thing you need to know is that Trump has a base of about 33% of the country that either won't abandon him. Which is high enough to make the GOP fear cutting bait with him and enough to make him dangerous in an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    Longterm data is the most relevant and the only thing you need to know is that Trump has a base of about 33% of the country that either won't abandon him. Which is high enough to make the GOP fear cutting bait with him and enough to make him dangerous in an election.
    on that we agree

    he is always going to have that chunk of people behind him no matter what

    not because of what he does, but because of what he represents
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    ... 105 MPH winds make it CAT2.

    Have fun closing your eyes on that one ...
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/storm/...cid=spartanntp
    There is something there. Tropical Storm Jose. Just doesn't have the same impact as Hurricane Jose. But it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
    Hurricane Jose is really a tropical storm, but the news continues to call it a hurricane. There is no there there unless we say so.
    Not sure where you get your data from, but you should study up on this. Hurricane Jose is a Cat 2 now, its' expected to weaken to a Cat 1, after that the predictions aren't as clear. It also isn't clear yet if it will make landfall or turn northward along the coast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Not sure where you get your data from, but you should study up on this. Hurricane Jose is a Cat 2 now, its' expected to weaken to a Cat 1, after that the predictions aren't as clear. It also isn't clear yet if it will make landfall or turn northward along the coast.
    What's the difference between a tropical storm and a hurricane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
    What's the difference between a tropical storm and a hurricane?
    wind speed, primarily
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    wind speed, primarily
    70 - 120mph on up is considered hurricane category?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/storm/...cid=spartanntp
    There is something there. Tropical Storm Jose. Just doesn't have the same impact as Hurricane Jose. But it does.
    You need to look at the whole picture. Yes, Jose might right out of steam and collapse while it is still in the Atlantic. Apparently Wind Shear is weakening the Hurricane, but as of now it is a Hurricane. Hopefully it will falter before getting too close to land, but it might be a day or two before we know if that is going to happen or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
    70 - 120mph on up is considered hurricane category?
    According to the scale I linked to, anything above 74mph is considered a hurricane. Also, the storm has to have a fairly well defined Eye to be a hurricane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
    70 - 120mph on up is considered hurricane category?
    Here's a story "Which Is Worse: Hurricanes or Tornadoes?" from 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    You need to look at the whole picture. Yes, Jose might right out of steam and collapse while it is still in the Atlantic. Apparently Wind Shear is weakening the Hurricane, but as of now it is a Hurricane. Hopefully it will falter before getting too close to land, but it might be a day or two before we know if that is going to happen or not.
    The last tropical storm I remember being in was 1968 on Clark AFB in the Philippines. We called that bad boy a Typhoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
    The last tropical storm I remember being in was 1968 on Clark AFB in the Philippines. We called that bad boy a Typhoon.
    Read this: What is the difference between a hurricane, a cyclone, and a typhoon?
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    I know earthquakes and wildfires better than I know tropical storms/hurricanes/typhoons.

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