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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    what does that even mean?

    I live in a suburb and work for a modular building and trailer company

    I also believe in further education for those who want it, further job training for those who want it to make themselves better

    there is this thing called PROGRESS
    And I feel that "to make themselves better" is code for "your way of life is going away and we aren't going to do anything to stop that." Country folks get scared by those kinds of messages from a national politician.

    Anyway, my point is that neither side has really found a way to appeal consistently to this one aspect of the population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    And I feel that "to make themselves better" is code for "your way of life is going away and we aren't going to do anything to stop that." Country folks get scared by those kinds of messages from a national politician.

    Anyway, my point is that neither side has really found a way to appeal consistently to this one aspect of the population.
    its not even code

    IT IS

    nothing is going to bring the paper mill, coal mine, auto plant, diddle factory back to Sheepshagger, West Virginia

    hard truths
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    its not even code

    IT IS

    nothing is going to bring the paper mill, coal mine, auto plant, diddle factory back to Sheepshagger, West Virginia

    hard truths
    Here is what I never really see you factor in...

    I listened to someone this afternoon on a radio show mention that an automated sewing robot could do the work of seventeen factory workers. If you have that along with normal population growth and a country on your southern border that adds even more folks who will need jobs into that equation, it will eventually not work. If you have all of those people competing for the job you are saying you currently have, things will get complicated. Quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojotastic View Post
    I dont agree that doing this would be bad because it feed the Maduro propaganda because for years Chavez/Maduro have been doing that without the United State having to do anything.

    I also can see the point that Coffman is saying, just the last week Maduro said thay if neccesary he will become a dictator so he is able keep Venezuela in good hands and keep the peace.

    Link in Spanish.
    http://www.libertaddigital.com/inter...ca-1276605593/

    But at the same time this would mean another blow for the Venezuelan economy making harder for the people living there to get goods in legal ways.
    Really, if I truly wanted to destroy Venezuela, I can think of little worse than helping solidify Maduro's hold on power. He's doing a bang up job of ruining the country all by himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    And I feel that "to make themselves better" is code for "your way of life is going away and we aren't going to do anything to stop that." Country folks get scared by those kinds of messages from a national politician.

    Anyway, my point is that neither side has really found a way to appeal consistently to this one aspect of the population.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    its not even code

    IT IS

    nothing is going to bring the paper mill, coal mine, auto plant, diddle factory back to Sheepshagger, West Virginia

    hard truths
    Hard Truths need to be faced, especially by someone who prides themselves on their individualism like most country folks make themselves out to be (rightly or wrongly). But I don't think it's as complicated as Scott is making out here. The phrase 'to make themselves better' or 'to better yourself' implies that they aren't good enough now, especially with how it's spun to them as coming from a pinko intellectual progressive SJW liberal socialist who wants the government to take over your life. They've been programmed for decades now to only accept news from 'the right sources' which have consistently lied to them and now it seems like they don't trust the Truth regardless of source because it doesn't feel true.

    It's not just how to approach them, they have to be willing to be approached and from someone close to that pulse let me tell you - most aren't.

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    How about a public school curriculum to prepare kids for the 21st century and beyond? How about vocational training to acclimatize people for 21st century job market? How about environmentally safe and cost efficient 21st century technology to preserve a future for our posterity? I know. It's not going to happen. Our way of life is like this: push a refrigerator off a cliff and tell everyone its defying the law of gravity until it hits the rocks below. How close are we to the rocks, folks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    Hard Truths need to be faced, especially by someone who prides themselves on their individualism like most country folks make themselves out to be (rightly or wrongly). But I don't think it's as complicated as Scott is making out here. The phrase 'to make themselves better' or 'to better yourself' implies that they aren't good enough now, especially with how it's spun to them as coming from a pinko intellectual progressive SJW liberal socialist who wants the government to take over your life. They've been programmed for decades now to only accept news from 'the right sources' which have consistently lied to them and now it seems like they don't trust the Truth regardless of source because it doesn't feel true.

    It's not just how to approach them, they have to be willing to be approached and from someone close to that pulse let me tell you - most aren't.
    Yep, you get it.

    Bottom like the Fox newses of the world are more in line with that individualism.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    its not even code

    IT IS

    nothing is going to bring the paper mill, coal mine, auto plant, diddle factory back to Sheepshagger, West Virginia

    hard truths
    And there is a perception that the country folks care about that. Nope.

    I work in a sub-sub-suburb of Los Angeles, as a biologist. The reason its a good place to be is that there is actual biology to study out in the sticks. There are jobs out here and more keep coming. Amazon just opened up some big distribution centers.

    But this whole Trump versus them thing? Its more about philosophy than economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    You need to look at the whole picture. Yes, Jose might right out of steam and collapse while it is still in the Atlantic. Apparently Wind Shear is weakening the Hurricane, but as of now it is a Hurricane. Hopefully it will falter before getting too close to land, but it might be a day or two before we know if that is going to happen or not.
    The steering wind is messing with it, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
    How about a public school curriculum to prepare kids for the 21st century and beyond? How about vocational training to acclimatize people for 21st century job market? How about environmentally safe and cost efficient 21st century technology to preserve a future for our posterity? I know. It's not going to happen. Our way of life is like this: push a refrigerator off a cliff and tell everyone its defying the law of gravity until it hits the rocks below. How close are we to the rocks, folks?
    I'd be down with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    Do you really hate the woman so much you are blind of how much strength this takes?

    Your hatred frightens me. It can lead to no good.
    I HATE Trump. I dislike Hillary. Sorry you feel triggered and had to assign a word to me to make yourself feel good or get your point across.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    But hey, Hillary's book is selling through the roof and her book tour is selling out. The very definition of being unpopular - not.

    Meanwhile, you're on the internet pretending to be an English aristocrat in a Japanese woman's body.
    I'm happy for her, now take that money and go away.
    Be helpful like the Illuminati. Get off the front page, and let the Democratic party along with Independent Progressives move the country and party in the direction it's always been heading. Left.

    We are not a centrist nation anymore, nor are we Conservative, that's an old mindset Hillary represented. She can go now. let Nina Turner, Tulsi, Paula Jean, Elizabeth, and maybe even Kamala do their thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School Ollie 1962 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    Do you really hate the woman so much you are blind of how much strength this takes?

    Your hatred frightens me. It can lead to no good.
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    But hey, Hillary's book is selling through the roof and her book tour is selling out. The very definition of being unpopular - not.

    Meanwhile, you're on the internet pretending to be an English aristocrat in a Japanese woman's body.
    So...

    Is it actually "Strength", or is it really about making money?

    Inquiring minds would like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    To anyone who's ever been betrayed, lied about, ridiculed, treated unfairly and had their dreams crushed by bullies, I can't think of many things more inspiring than Hillary being back on her feet on that book tour.
    Yeah...

    Being born white in America so you can grow up to talk about minority teens being super predators.

    Really tough break.

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