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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew101281 View Post
    How do we fight voter suppression?
    Win elections that'll put lawmakers into place that can fight against them.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.c7e621b8ffd2

    Yet geography alone doesn’t explain Republican dominance in many states. Political geographers from Stanford and Carnegie Mellon found, for instance, that there was “less than a one in one thousand chance” that the map passed by Wisconsin Republicans, which gave them 60 percent of the seats in the State Assembly, was based on where Democrats lived. “The partisan asymmetry in the existing map,” they wrote, “. . . was carefully and deliberately created, not a result of the natural clustering of voters in Wisconsin.”

    The same was true in Pennsylvania, where University of Michigan political scientist Jowei Chen discovered “a small geographic advantage for the Republicans, but it does not come close to explaining the extreme 13-5 Republican advantage” in the state’s congressional delegation. Indeed, Pennsylvania Republicans went to almost comic lengths to contort political boundaries for partisan advantage, drawing one district, nicknamed “Goofy Kicking Donald Duck,” that spanned five counties and 26 municipalities, and at one of its narrowest points ran through the parking lot of a seafood restaurant in the town of King of Prussia.
    Decent WaPo article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    That's very young for a Republican candidate, isn't it? They're usually old white men.
    Consider this: Stacey Dash is older than Ted Cruz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    Consider this: Stacey Dash is older than Ted Cruz.
    Well, you are going by the fake age he gave himself to have an alibi for the first Zodiac killer crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post
    Well, Trump is at Pennsylvania to promote a Republican candidate and it's insanity as per usual. Check out this tweet storm with video for the details.

    Highlights include calling Chuck Todd a son of a bitch, calling Warren Pocahontas yet again, wanting to exceute drug dealers, and signalling out a black female congresswoman to say she has a low IQ. Poor WBE. So much insanity to report on in one single night.
    He also criticized Ronald Reagan and somehow took credit the Olympics being nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post
    Well, Trump is at Pennsylvania to promote a Republican candidate and it's insanity as per usual. Check out this tweet storm with video for the details.

    Highlights include calling Chuck Todd a son of a bitch, calling Warren Pocahontas yet again, wanting to exceute drug dealers, and signalling out a black female congresswoman to say she has a low IQ. Poor WBE. So much insanity to report on in one single night.
    If Barack Obama went off like Trump did on a campaign stop (let's get real here, Trump never STOPPED campaigning, makes him feel like a big man), Republicans, conservatives, right wingers and Faux News talking heads would be whining like five year olds denied cookies before dinner.

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    I dislike Conservatives more and more daily. Yes, I'm using a blanket statement and lumping them all in together.


    Every time a Republican warbles "thoughts and prayers" to counteract talk of gun control, my first thought is, "How much money did he/she take from the NRA?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Which is why the Pennsylvania GOP has been hellbent on killing a recently remade electorate map which kills their gerrymandered advantage.

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    67 NRA-Approved Politicians Voted For New Florida Gun Control Bill: Report

    Or 68, if you include Gov. Rick Scott’s signing of the legislation. Well, that's certainly interesting.

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    GOP: Actually, There Are Lots Of Women In The White House, Like Our Wives

    Donald Trump loves women so much that he married three. I know, right? And you can't convince me Hope Hicks wasn't in line to become number four. Talk about hilarious bullshit coming from the White House.

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    President Donald Trump Suggests Death Penalty For Drug Dealers

    Trump used Singapore’s “zero tolerance” drug policy as an example of how the U.S. should be. My take? Trump believes that only Blacks and Latinos are drug dealers, thus all his tough talk. But, what about WHITE dealers? Would he change his tune on them? What do you think?

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    Former Trump Aide Sam Nunberg Says Mueller Probe ‘Not A Witch Hunt’

    There’s a lot there, and that’s the sad truth.” Cheeto Jesus and all his sycophants won't like hearing that.

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    Vladimir Putin Blames U.S. Election Interference On ‘Jews,’ Ukrainians

    The Russian president denied accusations of meddling during a tense interview with NBC’s Megyn Kelly. Jews and Ukrainians working for the Kremlin, Vlad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    Antifa isn't running around assaulting people that aren't them
    Not what I'm hearing.

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    On this date in 2015, 2016, as well as 2017, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day posted profiles of South Carolina State Senator Tom Corbin from the South Carolina State Senate, a misogynist extraordinaire who has referred to the only female member of the South Carolina State Senate and all women as a "lesser cut of meat", as well as repeatedly making cracks about how women should be in the kitchen and barefoot to get a rise out of the ladies. He also voted to nullify the Affordable Care Act in South Carolina, wanted to pass stricter voter ID laws that would disenfranchise tens of thousands of voters if not more, voted for the concealed carry of firearms in bars, because alcohol does wonders for impulse control, and once sponsored legislation to force every citizen of South Carolina over the age of 17 not in the National Guard to be drafted into a state militia to battle any potential invasions from, as he theorized, the "Red Chinese".

    Corbin barely survived a tough GOP primary in 2016 against John B. White, winning by a mere 300 votes. He has remained quiet since his re-election, but we’ll continue to monitor his voting record and social profile for any more brain-addled statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post
    Well, Trump is at Pennsylvania to promote a Republican candidate and it's insanity as per usual. Check out this tweet storm with video for the details.

    Highlights include calling Chuck Todd a son of a bitch, calling Warren Pocahontas yet again, wanting to exceute drug dealers, and signalling out a black female congresswoman to say she has a low IQ. Poor WBE. So much insanity to report on in one single night.
    Todd has Steven Mauchin on Meet The Press and tried to question him about Trump's behaviour at the rally and Mauchin kept dodging the questions. Todd seemed to get a little short with him and said something like, "Look if nothing he says matters, then maybe we should just stop covering him then?" Mauchin is like of course you should cover him be we should be talking about policies. Todd goes, "I'd LOVE to talk about policy, why can't he talk about policy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Former Assoc. Dir. of National Intelligence: "it was entirely possible votes were tampered with."



    But Hillary is at fault for only winning by 3 million votes. We can't look for the other reasons we have the baboon in the WH.
    The election wasn't decided by the popular vote, even though the Hillary Clinton campaign spent resources on getting out the vote in places that didn't help them. So she would be at fault for piss-poor strategy in losing the electoral vote while doing well in the popular.

    It's also a leap from one guy saying that it's possible votes were tampered with to declaring it a certainty.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    Antifa isn't running around assaulting people that aren't them

    that's what racist white a-holes do
    Antifa seems to be doing it in the West Coast.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.172f1c637efa

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/10...-arrested.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    In the short term: Register more people to vote, and vote in the people not suppressing the votes.

    Long Term: Vote for those who bring up voter suppression and popular vote initiatives when their party is in power rather than a minority.
    I'm generally in agreement here about the ways to fight voter suppression.

    It would mainly make a difference in close elections, so the activists should do what they can to make sure elections aren't close (IE- be involved in Ger out the Vote initiatives.)

    Getting candidates to agree to specific policy proposals would also be a way to go, so there can be an open debate on the merits, and that when legislators are in office, they'll know what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    It's a bit vague on the exact effects, saying that one myth is that "GOP dominance has more to do with geography than gerrymandering." without giving any comparison to how many congressional seats are the result of the former, and how many are the result of the latter, which means the myth isn't disproven.

    The general consensus is that some Republican advantage is the result of gerrymandering, but not a lot of it (a further factor is that Republican advantage in gerrymandering in some states is offset by the Democratic advantage in their states.)

    Nate Cohn of the New York Times had an interesting piece on decisions the Pennsylvania Supreme Court made that really favored Democrats in redistricting. They prioritize partisan balance when other standards (combining communities of interest, randomly selected geographic bodies) would favor Republicans.

    Many of those choices are easy to spot on a map. Every potentially competitive Republican-held district juts out to add Democratic areas, like adding York to the 10th District, Lansdale to the First District, Reading to the Sixth District, Stroudsburg to the Seventh District, South Philadelphia to the Fifth District, or Mount Lebanon and Penn Hills to the 17th.

    There are also subtle choices that are harder to see. They’re less about picking and choosing municipalities and more about how to group counties. These choices also often work to the advantage of Democrats, like the decision to center the 12th District in Beaver rather than in Butler County, or to have the Fifth District, rather than the Fourth or the First, take population in Philadelphia.

    Any of these decisions can be justified. It is also possible, although unlikely and unproven, that only this combination of choices yields the absolute minimum number of split counties or municipalities, the key criterion of the court order.

    But in all of these cases, there were Republican-leaning alternatives of seemingly comparable merit. Collectively, it’s a pattern of augmenting Democratic strength, inching the statewide map closer to partisan parity.

    This does not necessarily mean the map amounts to a “Democratic gerrymander,” as some have suggested. Over all, it admirably adheres to traditional nonpartisan redistricting criteria, like compactness and the avoidance of unnecessary county splits. But the map makes Democratic-tilting choices so consistently that it is hard not to wonder whether it was part of an intentional effort to achieve partisan balance in a state that is fairly evenly divided.

    It would be somewhat surprising, at least to me, if the court drew this map without that goal in mind. Nathaniel Persily, the Stanford professor who helped draw the map, has been barred by the court from discussing it.

    A series of pro-Democratic choices would be necessary to create statewide partisan balance, since lopsided winning margins in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh put Democrats at a considerable disadvantage in translating their votes to seats statewide. In fact, the new map still slightly advantages the Republicans with respect to the statewide popular vote.
    Perhaps it shouldn’t be a surprise if the court strove for partisan symmetry in the context of a partisan gerrymandering case. But the court order did not say that the maps should strive for partisan balance, and it seems that’s the reason Democrats did not strive for it, either.
    This is gerrymandering, but for a defensible goal that does favor Democrats. It would be something that should be articulated so that the decisions can be made openly.

    Fivethirtyeight has an interesting interactive on the effects various decisions can have on the composition of the House.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ting-maps/#Dem

    They compare eight scenarios, and the only one in which Democrats have the House is one in which things are gerrymandered in their favor. If districts were selected to be geographically compact (either following county lines or algorithmically) Republicans have 2-3 less House members than they currently do, which fits the idea that gerrymandering has helped them, but that geography is much more important.
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    so Im still trying to wrap my head around WHY the GOP in Kentucky basically stopped the legislature from changing the child marriage statutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    so Im still trying to wrap my head around WHY the GOP in Kentucky basically stopped the legislature from changing the child marriage statutes
    Bigotry. The twisted logic is that by getting the government involved by banning child marriages, it would provide a legal leg for the federal government to stand on in forcing them to acknowledge gay marriages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    so Im still trying to wrap my head around WHY the GOP in Kentucky basically stopped the legislature from changing the child marriage statutes
    As of Wednesday, the bill passed the State Senate 34-3.

    http://kycir.org/2018/03/07/bill-ban...passes-senate/

    Is there an update?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    As of Wednesday, the bill passed the State Senate 34-3.

    http://kycir.org/2018/03/07/bill-ban...passes-senate/

    Is there an update?
    Governor still has to sign it

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    some non politics news

    Fyre Festival founder ordered to pay $26 million back to investors


    In June 2017, McFarland was arrested on charges of providing false financial information to potential investors of Fyre Fest. The 2017 Bahamas music festival was billed as an upscale boutique experience providing luxury villas and catered meals with performances from artists such as Migos, Major Lazer, Blink-182, and Disclosure. However, festival-goers instead arrived on the island in April to a post-apocalyptic tent city and little more than bread and cheese provided for their meals.

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