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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    That is simply not true. Atheist fully understand the full spectrum of religious belief. But as I said, believers usually think at least part of the Bible is literally true.
    Some believe in Adam and Eve, Noah and the Flood. Some believe in Moses and the Exodus. Others believe Jesus was born from a virgin, performed miracles and his actual words are written in the Bible.
    All those beliefs are questioned by atheists.
    Wasn't the initial discussion about people who think every part of the Bible or a given religious text is literally true? It wasn't about hypothetical Christians who believe nothing in the Bible is true
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    That is simply not true. Atheist fully understand the full spectrum of religious belief. But as I said, believers usually think at least part of the Bible is literally true.
    Some believe in Adam and Eve, Noah and the Flood. Some believe in Moses and the Exodus. Others believe Jesus was born from a virgin, performed miracles and his actual words are written in the Bible.
    All those beliefs are questioned by atheists.
    There are some atheists who read the Bible, roll their eyes and say, "Oh right! Like that really happened!" Well, of course it didn't really happen. But that's not the point of the story. The point is to teach a moral just as the point of any of Aesop's Fables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Wasn't the initial discussion about people who think every part of the Bible or a given religious text is literally true? It wasn't about hypothetical Christians who believe nothing in the Bible is true
    Yes, he said only atheists and fundamentalist. I said that is not true of atheists and that most (all?) believers do take some part of the Bible literally.
    I think his statement was a bit of a strawman. Do we dismiss bible criticism because some don't believe every word? We can still discuss those things that a believer think are literally true. Even if they are not a fundamentalist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    There are some atheists who read the Bible, roll their eyes and say, "Oh right! Like that really happened!" Well, of course it didn't really happen. But that's not the point of the story. The point is to teach a moral just as the point of any of Aesop's Fables.
    If you go to the Bible thread on this board, you will find many that do believe all of it is true.
    And as I said almost all believers do think some of it was literally true.
    But atheists are as can be as varied as believers, the only thing atheists have in common is their nonbelief.

    And BTW, there are some really screwed up morals taught by God in the early books, including genocide and slavery.
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    Teacher, reserve cop accidentally fires gun in class, police say

    A teacher accidentally fired a gun inside a classroom here on Tuesday afternoon and a student was slightly hurt, authorities said. Dennis Alexander was teaching public safety for his Administration of Justice class in Seaside High School when a shot went off around 1:20 p.m., reports CBS Monterey, California affiliate KION-TV.

    Alexander is also a reserve police officer for Sand City Police, authorities said.

    Alexander "accidentally discharged his firearm into the ceiling," said Seaside Police Chief Abdul Pridgen.

    Though the gun didn't shoot anyone directly, "Fragments from the bullet struck a student in the neck," Pridgen said.

    The Monterey Peninsula Unified School District put him on administrative leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    If you go to the Bible thread on this board, you will find many that do believe all of it is true.
    And as I said almost all believers do think some of it was literally true.
    But atheists are as can be as varied as believers, the only thing atheists have in common is their nonbelief.

    And BTW, there are some really screwed up morals taught by God in the early books, including genocide and slavery.
    Definitely! Just ask an Amalekite. Oh wait.

    And Samuel said to Saul, “The Lord sent me to anoint you king over his people Israel; now therefore listen to the words of the Lord. Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    Oh boy, this has it all. Infidelity, Walmart, and white nationalist trailer trash folk. Bonus if it takes place in Southern Indiana and meth is involved.

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    There is something about this headline that makes you think.....


    White men stockpile guns because they’re scared of black people and feel inadequate, science says


    So, who is 'supreme'? The White Men who measure their masculinity based on the number of weapons they own? Or everyone else?

    According to science, the average gun owner is a white man without much education who is worried about providing for his family and who is afraid of black people.

    “These are men who are anxious about their ability to protect their families, insecure about their place in the job market, and beset by racial fears,” Scientific American writes. “They tend to be less educated. For the most part, they don’t appear to be religious—and, suggests one study, faith seems to reduce their attachment to guns. In fact, stockpiling guns seems to be a symptom of a much deeper crisis in meaning and purpose in their lives.”

    Among the works cited in the article is a 2017 study by two Baylor sociologists who plotted gun owners on a “gun empowerment scale.” They found that the people who were “most emotionally and morally attached to their guns” were 65 percent male and 78 percent white.
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    Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

    A teacher who is also a reserve police officer trained in firearm use accidentally discharged a gun Tuesday at Seaside High School in Monterey County, Calif., during a class devoted to public safety. A male student was reported to have sustained non-life-threatening injuries.

    The weapon, which was not described, was pointed at the ceiling, according to a statement from the school, and debris fell from the ceiling.

    Seaside Police Chief Abdul Pridgen told the Monterey County Weekly that a male student was “struck in the neck by ‘debris or fragmentation’ from something overhead.” Pridgen said whatever hit the student was not a bullet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Oh boy, this has it all. Infidelity, Walmart, and white nationalist trailer trash folk. Bonus if it takes place in Southern Indiana and meth is involved.
    Southern Indiana - YES

    Meth - no, but I wouldn't be surprised if these people haven't dabbled in 'chasing the dragon'

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    And the gun fetishists are out, with the NRA tweeting during the walkouts.



    Gotta love the placement of the American flag on the gun, to say that if you protest guns, you are protesting against America. :P

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    the NRA is scared of a bunch of high schoolers/middle school kids

    a lot of kids who will be eligible to vote in 2020

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    Lamb/Saccone challenges have started.

    Conservative Judge threw out some votes, all GOP, Saccone challenged them, another more conservative judge upheld and threw more out.

    Lamb is challenging a set of ballots set aside.

    Lamb has ruled out recount, Saccone has not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    the NRA is scared of a bunch of high schoolers/middle school kids

    a lot of kids who will be eligible to vote in 2020
    And that's why the NRA is collectively pissing their pants. They've seen the future and the picture ain't a pretty one for them. A revolution has started, and it's one the gun nuts and ammosexuals won't be able to stop.
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    Congress has started a probe on Zinke's and Carson's use of federal dollars.

    House Oversight Panel Asks HUD For Documents Amid Accusations Of Lavish Spending.

    Is DeVos going to be the last one standing?

    EDIT: And Mattis.
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