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    Democrats Reload for Georgia Runoff, But Party Divisions Remain

    Guess who is causing the division?

    Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, in an interview Tuesday in Louisville, Ky., said he didn’t know much about Mr. Ossoff, a 30-year-old former House staffer. Mr. Sanders said he isn’t prepared to back Democrats just because of a party label.

    “If you run as a Democrat, you’re a Democrat,” he said. “Some Democrats are progressive and some Democrats are not.”

    Asked if Mr. Ossoff is a progressive, Mr. Sanders, an independent who challenged Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential primary, demurred. “I don’t know,” he said.
    All Democrats are Progressives to one degree or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Yeah, it's just unsettling. Helping out another party you align with it one thing, trying to change it without actually being in it is another.
    I know you're more of the Hillary wing, and i'm of the Sanders wing.
    Personally i don't like parties at all. I think everyone should be independent. That's why I left the Democratic Party, because they stopped representing me. When you have Bernie being more of a Liberal than people like Feinstein. Then I believe the party needs to be changed. Sometimes change comes from the outside, not within. The way Perez squirmed aroudn that question on Hayes is why the DNC is always losing and in trouble.

    Ask Feinstein how running towards the GOP is gonna help her next year?

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    Bernie can still take a seat

    as far as Im concerned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    All Democrats are Progressives to one degree or another.
    Yeah, nothing says "Progressive" like letting someone who had to be strong-armed into dropping support for payday loan outfits head the parties' national committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    Bernie can still take a seat

    as far as Im concerned
    That one Senate Democrats gave him because they are "HRC" level out-of-touch should work just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    That one Senate Democrats gave him because they are "HRC" level out-of-touch should work just fine.
    like ive been saying for more than a year now

    he can go right back to Vermont and keep yelling about the system and the establishment and whatever else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Democrats Reload for Georgia Runoff, But Party Divisions Remain

    Guess who is causing the division?



    All Democrats are Progressives to one degree or another.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    Bernie can still take a seat

    as far as Im concerned
    His message is changing from "income inequality" to "I decide who the real progressives are, and who's qualified for office as a Democrat. But I'm not a Democrat. But I decide which ones are good for Democrats."

    Seriously, Bernie, F*** right off with that and stick to the issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    His message is changing from "income inequality" to "I decide who the real progressives are, and who's qualified for office as a Democrat. But I'm not a Democrat. But I decide which ones are good for Democrats."

    Seriously, Bernie, F*** right off with that and stick to the issues.
    Sure. Let's sideline that guy while the party that has lost everything but their fillings continues to screw up a one car parade.

    Makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    His message is changing from "income inequality" to "I decide who the real progressives are, and who's qualified for office as a Democrat. But I'm not a Democrat. But I decide which ones are good for Democrats."

    Seriously, Bernie, F*** right off with that and stick to the issues.
    I dont agree with that, if Sanders can help combat corporatism in the democratic party that would be an important asset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Sure. Let's sideline that guy while the party that has lost everything but their fillings continues to screw up a one car parade.

    Makes perfect sense.
    there are a number of younger, hungrier, and suitable Dems that can and are going to lead

    Sanders is NOT needed

    and not wanted by a large number of voters
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojotastic View Post
    I dont agree with that, if Sanders can help combat corporatism in the democratic party that would be an important asset.
    I would like it if he took social issues more importantly than he has.

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    I like Bernie Sanders. I agree with a lot of his stands on the issues. I voted for him in the New York Primary. But you don't get to step in and out of a clubhouse as the whim strikes you, but still act like you get to say who else gets in to the clubhouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    there are a number of younger, hungrier, and suitable Dems that can and are going to lead

    Sanders is NOT needed

    and not wanted by a large number of voters
    Doesnt Sanders attract a big number of younger voters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    I like Bernie Sanders. I agree with a lot of his stands on the issues. I voted for him in the New York Primary. But you don't get to step in and out of a clubhouse as the whim strikes you, but still act like you get to say who else gets in to the clubhouse.
    I think working together win Sanders would a lot more than party purity or no forming alliances, at the end of the day winning is what matter.

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