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    A peak into Trump diplomacy

    According to reports, the US president told Peña Nieto: “You have a bunch of bad hombres down there. You aren’t doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn’t, so I just might send them down to take care of it.”
    Trump may have threatened to send US troops to Mexico when he was talking to the Mexican president. But he was just joking, probably, that couldn't get us into any trouble in the future could it?

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oops-to-mexico
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    Aaaand another Trump supporter got punched.

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    Eh WBE? Remember how you said that it bore watching? <.<

    ALBANY — State Rep. Gerald Greene, R-Cuthbert, who was shot in the leg during a robbery attempt on Jan. 26 in Columbus, said he had been in Foxes Adult Entertainment Store prior to being assaulted in the establishment’s back parking lot.
    “I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but what I was doing there is nobody’s business but mine,” Greene said in an exclusive interview with The Herald on Wednesday. “I know that might sound a little strange, but I am not a perfect person, and I made a bad mistake and I am paying the price for it.”
    Initial reports stated that Greene, who has served in the State House for 34 years, was shot during a holdup after he stopped at a Columbus package store while on his way home from the state capital.

    Greene said the two businesses share a common parking lot.
    “I was parked in the back of the Foxes store,” admitted Greene, who said he was carrying cash and checks in storm relief money for the Red Cross when he was shot. “I was going back to my car, and a man was sitting on the back steps of the building. He asked me if I had any change. I said, ‘No, I do not, I’m sorry.’ I opened the door of my car to get in, then he spun me around and said, ‘I’ll kill you right now on the spot. Give me everything you’ve got.’ He had a gun pointed right at my chest.

    http://www.albanyherald.com/news/loc...f6144e0c7.html

    Fascinating revisions to his tale.
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    Just a reminder that both sides can make up shit and both are wrong in doing so

    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/loca...33053942-story
    The man who claimed his mother died in Iraq after trump's EO turns out to have lied. She died 5 days before it was issued. His Imam confirmed the man was lying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryphon View Post
    Just a reminder that both sides can make up shit and both are wrong in doing so

    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/loca...33053942-story
    The man who claimed his mother died in Iraq after trump's EO turns out to have lied. She died 5 days before it was issued. His Imam confirmed the man was lying
    Oh come on guys, why you gotta troll like that. Trump doesn't need help to look bad, lying just helps him.

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    Two years ago on this date, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of Pat Bertroche, a failed candidate for Congress back in the Tea Party Wave of 2010 who was a rambling, incoherent idiot for a man who went through medical school, only to be worked into a berserker frenzy by the passage of the Affordable Care Act to the point where he was lying to the public and perpetrating the myth that its implementation would lead to “healthcare rationing”. His website had a link to the issue of terrorism which began with the policy of “Kill ‘Em All”, before delving into a story about a mass suicide he claimed to personally witnessed by five Iranians in Vienna that also has no basis in reality. Bertroche was also opposed to same sex marriage, claiming that the Supreme Court was stepping out of line to rule on the subject, and just needed to “let Congress vote on the Defense of Marriage Act” which was also off-putting, because Congress HAD voted on it back in 1996, and the Supreme Court had, many years later, ruled it unconstitutional and overturned the law… which is how those two branches of government work. Anyway, what really seemed to be the moment that finished off Pat Bertroche’s hopes at heading to Washington, D.C., was his campaign trail idea to solve our immigration crisis by implanting microchips into illegal immigrants that get caught so they can be tracked and can’t sneak back over again. Sane people, of course, realize that’s not just an impractical idea, it’s a human rights violation. Needless to say, Bertroche did not win office in Iowa’s 3rd Congressional District, and has faded from relevance since.

    One year ago today, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of David Rivera, a former one term member of the U.S. House of Representatives for Florida’s 25TH Congressional District for one term, arriving with the Tea Party Wave in 2011 and leaving two years later in 2013. Prior to his Congressional career, he was making noise in the Florida House of Representatives, where he was good friends with, and housemates with future Senator Marco Rubio, where Rivera stacked up a HUGE cloud of ethics violations ,Where does one even begin with this guy? Well, it all started back in the 2012 elections, when Rivera’s primary opponent, Marili Cancio, happened to dig up an old police report from 1994 that showed there was a David M. Rivera (same name) who was charged with repeated acts of domestic violence against a Florida woman. The rabbit hole went deeper, though. The domestic violence storyline was something that Rivera had been trying to shake as far back as his career as a state legislator, but how he supposedly shook the stigma of abusing his girlfriend in 2002 was a bit more suspicious. Rivera’s opponent in that election had planned to release a series of fliers about the allegation of domestic abuse to stir up anti-Rivera sentiment. David Rivera just coincidentally was involved in a traffic accident with the delivery vehicle that was trying to mail out those fliers before the deadline, where he claims that he was trying to flag down the driver who also had HIS fliers, and in the process of trying to wave him down on the road, the delivery driver lost control of their vehicle (totally not his fault, right) and crashed. Which is news to the delivery company, who recall Rivera just colliding with them and running them off the road. So in 2011, under the David Rivera Wikipedia page, they had a “controversies” section with both the story of accusations of domestic violence, and the bizarrely convenient traffic accident listed. That’s not uncommon for political candidates. What became a bit of a point of a contention, though, was Rivera’s press secretary, Leslie Veiga, kept logging into Wikipedia to delete any negatives about him, whenever they would be edited into his biography. Rivera’s press secretary had to be busy with those attempted scrub jobs. Considering there were also news stories about how he and Marco Rubio’s shared home was foreclosed on in 2010 while both were running for office (and presumably were trying to paint a picture of themselves as “fiscally responsible Republicans”). There was also the fact that in all disclosure reports, David Rivera listed the U.S. Agency for International Development as his employer… even though the USAID office itself never had a record of even hiring him. Or say, after how Rivera went above and beyond in the Florida House of Representatives with Marco Rubio to help change the law in Florida so that dog racing tracks in the state were permitted to also have big-revenue drawing slot machines, a specific dog track made a $510,000 payment to a consulting firm run by Rivera’s mother. (Because that doesn’t seem like bribery, at all.) In spite of being one of the shadiest people in politics running for Congress in 2010, David Rivera managed to ride the Tea Party Wave to Washington, where he would vote against the renewal of the Violence Against Women Act (not surprising given his history of domestic violence), tried to repeal the Affordable Care Act repeatedly, and defund Planned Parenthood. However, Rivera continued to have allegations of ethical misconduct dog him, yet still. FBI investigations were launched into his finances, including reimbursing himself for over $60,000 in fraudulent campaign expenses, and failing to disclose $137,000 in loans from a company owned by his mother. That investigation concluded in 2015, and a judge recommended $58,000 in fines towards Rivera for the offenses. So with all the dirt on him before he was in office, and the dirt continuing to pile up... David Rivera was facing a tough road to re-election in a presidential election year in 2012, where he would again be facing off against Joe Garcia. So, he got even more desperate, and even more crooked, if you could believe that even possible. You see, Rivera thought his only hope of winning would be if Garcia was badly damaged in a primary battle. And that's apparently how Rivera funded Justin Lemar Sternad, a political neophyte, as that shadow candidate in the 2012 Primary for Florida's 26th Congressional District's seat in the U.S. House of Representatives (running there because of redistricting). Sternad was running attack ads, for example, to make English the national language (in Miami), and saying that Joe Garcia had left his wife when she had contracted cancer, not unlike the stories about Newt Gingrich, from once upon a time. Another FBI investigation discovered that Sternad's campaign manager was Ana Alliegro, a self-styled "conservative bad girl", and a close personal friend of David Rivera's. Rather than be interviewed by the FBI and potentially implicate herself and Rivera, Alliegro fled to Nicaragua, where she is working as a hairdresser until presumably, the statute of limitations on any crime she or Rivera may have committed runs out. Because now that she’s there, she’s admitted Rivera’s plan to use Sternad as a proxy to smear Garcia. Needless to say, Rivera lost in 2012, only getting 43% of the vote. He attempted a comeback campaign in 2014 to again run for the seat in Florida's 26th, but couldn't even advance past the primary, only earning 7% of the vote after running what The National Journal called "The Worst Congressional Comeback Ever". Rivera finally accepted his pathway to Congress is blocked, at least for now, and tried to run for his old district in the Florida House of Representatives. He STILL lost that race by 53 votes. We’ll set aside this crooked loser's profile at this time, and we'll start profiling a different kooky Republican on this date instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 556-20, since this was established in July 2014.)
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    Jennifer Carroll

    Thank you for joining us here at “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” for our 556th original profile, where we'll be discussing former Florida Lieutenant Governor Jennifer Carroll, who after serving eight years in the Florida House of Representatives, was elected to office during the 2010 Tea Party Wave, and holds the historic honor of being the first African-American woman ever elected to statewide office in Florida. Yes, for a few years there, Carroll was one tragic mongoose attack against reptilian Florida Gov. Rick Scott from herself being governor of the Sunshine State. However, most signs indicate that would have not been an improvement, even with how awful Rick Scott is.

    Let's see, where to begin... back in 2004, when Carroll was still a state legislator, she was appointed to the National Commission on Presidential Scholars. She was forced to resign, however, when it was discovered in an investigation by CBS News that many Bush administration appointees were slotted for positions using degrees from phony diploma mills. Carroll herself had "attended" Kensington University and received a degree from them, and the Bush Dept. Education picked her based on those credentials. Amidst the controversy, she was forced to resign.

    After keeping her head down for six years, Carroll ended up winning the office of Lieutenant Governor, albeit with 48% of the vote even with the Tea Party momentum behind her. Then again, maybe her mediocre victory was because of reports she may have falsified documents to take advantage of a government program, but whatever.

    Carroll again began to try and seek out the limelight, perhaps thinking of a future run for Governor of Florida or other office for herself, when she gave a terrifying speech before the Faith and Freedom Coalition in 2011. The highlights of her fanatacism:

    So let's see... we have her complaining about the separation of church and state that prevents religion from being taught in public schools, some Christian faux-victimization, and then fear-mongering that anyone who stands against theocracy being a dictator or socialist. All in a matter of sentences. If it wasn't so scary, we'd be impressed she crammed that much Fundamentalist red meat into so short a time.

    But then again, is only gives us the pleasure of pointing out the hypocrisy of the fact that the God-fearing' Carroll, and her anti-gay stances was embroiled in a sex scandal in July of 2012, right around the time she became a member of Mitt Romney's election campaign (specifically his Black Leadership Council, which also had the deranged Allen West on it). Carroll was reportedly caught engaging in a lesbian affair with one of her aides. Carletha Cole, a former staffer arrested for illegally taping conversations from Carroll's office and leaking them a a Florida newspaper reporter. However, Cole alleged in a court filing that she was actually fired after she walked in on Jennifer Carroll having sex with another female aide in her office.

    Now, the smart way for Carroll to have dismissed this would have been to say she was married for 29 years, it didn't make a lick (no pun intended) of sense given her strong Christian beliefs, and that you couldn't trust Cole, because she was up on charges. However, she opted instead to mention that "Black women that look like me don’t engage in relationships like that", which only sparked more outrage and forced her to apologize for her insensitive remarks.

    And only six months after that controversy, Jennifer Carroll's career was over after she was implicated in a $300 million multistate racketeering investigation into a nonprofit veteran's charity organization she formerly ran, Allied Veterans for the World. The charity itself was running illegal online "Internet Sweepstakes cafes" that were actually just online gambling. Even more shocking was that out of the hundreds of millions of dollars that Allied Veterans of the World was pulling in, the investigation found they were lying about how much they were donating to Department of Veterans' Affairs charities, and had only had sent 2% of its earnings to them, pocketing the rest. Carroll had actually introduced a bill briefly in 2010 while a state legislator to legalize internet gambling cafes, but after her connection to Allied Veterans of the World was mentioned, she quickly yanked the legislation, and blamed it as a mistake by one of her aides.

    With Rick Scott already furious that she was embroiled in a variety of scandals, including another that her travel budget had increased thirty-fold and now was somehow $300,000 a MONTH, so Scott made Carroll fall on her sword and resign, also signing an executive order to force her pay a (GASP) $1000 fine. She actually had the nerve to whine about it and how she felt "betrayed" by that, but you have to consider it was a far better fate than the guy running Carroll's organization fared, as he ended up being sentenced to six years.)

    Perhaps the best obituary for her political career was the New York Times' summary that her tenure as lieutenant governor was “marred by scandal and poor judgment” and she was “increasingly viewed as an embarrassment to the man who chose her for the job.”

    Yeah, that about says it all, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspellmaster View Post

    Any way we in Illinois can help you guys out?
    With the repair of Cline Avenue, I don't think so. I really don't think there's any plans drawn up and if this third party company can pull it off.

    What is on again / off again is an 80/94 bypass that would go through south Lake County, Indiana and hook up with 57 in Cook County so that you could avoid 80/94 altogether. That one's on hold now thought since Illinois probably won't have money in their budget and landowners in Indiana are against it.
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    U.S. Military Probing More Possible Civilian Deaths In Yemen Raid

    Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations, officials said.

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    Christian Leaders Denounce Trump’s Hypocrisy Ahead Of National Prayer Breakfast

    “A conscience that is not awake to suffering and fails to respond is walled off from the love of God.”

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    House Republicans Vote To Overturn Rule Protecting Waterways From Mining

    Poisoned water, here we come, folks, courtesy of your friends in the GOP!

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    Trump Team Sent Federal Watchdogs An Ominous Message That Has People Worried

    Democrats want to know if inspectors general really are in the firing line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    I am pretty well versed in American generational cohorts. Boomers are "post war to '64", 1946-1964, so 53 - 71 years of age. Your years a a bit funky but that's not my contention with your post because they're mostly right.

    What was the name of the Baby Boomers before they became the Baby Boomers? Me Generation. And they earned it. They came down to earth in the 70s when the Baby Boomer term was coined. Their trajectory of social, economic, and political influence mirrors the former Generation Me, or, better known Millennials. Boomers started out problematic, calmed down, and post 2016 election, it appears they're back to the Me Generation traits.
    Really depends on who you consult about this. While they do share some ideas of selfish and self destructive behaviors (See the term Yuppies, because to some they created this) they're not nearly as Me as the Gen Xers are in regard to things. Maybe it's because I'm around a ton of progressive Boomers, I'm not sure, but the majority that I've met have been pretty forward thinking an liberal in nature, unlike a number of Gen Xers that are from the earlier part (some of the later tail end of the generation seems to be a lot more willing to be more progressive) who come off as more the Me type personality that are majorly associated with the Boomers.

    Silent is shrinking too fast to be viable change agents.

    Totally agree with you about Xers, they're gonna mess things up more because of their "I'm voting for dippy candidate of the moment because REASONS. Oh crap, that was a bad idea," voting record.

    Can't really comment on Generation Zers yet personally, because they don't vote (lowest turnout so far). 2020 will be telling. They are 41% churched up, the highest cohort since the Greatest Generation. So they might be uber conservative. Time will tell.
    Silent may be shrinking but they're influence on the Xers and possibly Zers is something to watch for in the coming years. And yeah, you're right on the money with the Xers being very much into the idea of voting for REASONS, or thinking about things on a more "how do I make the world burn" level due to issue they have apparently.

    Zers are still not quiet out of high school yet. They're just hitting the college years, also because Xers are in low numbers I hear they're also in smaller numbers because of their parents. Maybe, but a lot of them are also probably going to be highly rebellious due to actions taken by their parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    Eh WBE? Remember how you said that it bore watching? <.<




    http://www.albanyherald.com/news/loc...f6144e0c7.html

    Fascinating revisions to his tale.
    Knew it. So now here's the questions:

    1. Was it an actual robbery that just happened?

    2. Was it a pimp that shot him for not paying for something?

    3. Was he shot for something to do with the store or soliciting something?

    4. Is the money okay or was it taken?

    It's fine if he has his quirks, no one is questioning that I don't think. The shady part is why he was hit when he was coming out. IF this is a pure on case of robbery then someone's been watching him and knowing his pattern. IF it's not, then is it related to the store or his activities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    With the repair of Cline Avenue, I don't think so. I really don't think there's any plans drawn up and if this third party company can pull it off.

    What is on again / off again is an 80/94 bypass that would go through south Lake County, Indiana and hook up with 57 in Cook County so that you could avoid 80/94 altogether. That one's on hold now thought since Illinois probably won't have money in their budget and landowners in Indiana are against it.
    Which third party company is it? I know there's a few that the two states share at times. Oh that area, yeah given that the budget is right now in question still and even with the AG Madigan pressing on the whole taking it to court, (because we do need that resolved), not sure where the money would go to. Although the whole bill for money to be used strictly on roads and stuff could be something that could be useful. It's something I'll have to look into on my side of the boarder. Landowners tend to be annoying at times, because in some cases they don't actually use the land they have. What reasons are they giving to oppose it anyway?

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    So, it's true, after the Immigrants, Trump goes now after the LGBTQ people.

     A leaked copy of a draft executive order titled “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom,” obtained by The Investigative Fund and The Nation, reveals sweeping plans by the Trump administration to legalize discrimination.

    The four-page draft order, a copy of which is currently circulating among federal staff and advocacy organizations, construes religious organizations so broadly that it covers “any organization, including closely held for-profit corporations,” and protects “religious freedom” in every walk of life: “when providing social services, education, or healthcare; earning a living, seeking a job, or employing others; receiving government grants or contracts; or otherwise participating in the marketplace, the public square, or interfacing with Federal, State or local governments.”
    https://www.thenation.com/article/le...iscrimination/

    This is literally making LGBTQ people second class citizens.
    Holy crap, they are really done if this executive comes through.

    This is absolutely horrifying.

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    WASHINGTON — Rex W. Tillerson, the former chairman and chief executive of Exxon Mobil, was confirmed by the Senate on Wednesday in a 56 to 43 vote to become the nation’s 69th secretary of state just as serious strains have emerged with important international allies.

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    WASHINGTON — Rex W. Tillerson, the former chairman and chief executive of Exxon Mobil, was confirmed by the Senate on Wednesday to become the nation’s 69th secretary of state just as serious strains have emerged with important international allies.

    The many votes against Mr. Tillerson’s confirmation made his selection among the most contentious for a secretary of state in recent history, and he takes his post just as many traditional American allies are questioning the policies of President Trump. In the past 50 years, the most contentious confirmations for secretary of state were those of Condoleezza Rice in 2005, who passed by a vote of 85 to 13, and Henry Kissinger in 1973, who was confirmed 78 to 7.

    Mr. Trump is the most unapologetically nationalistic president of the modern era who has questioned the value of many of the alliances and multilateral institutions that the United States has nurtured since World War II to keep worldorder...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/u...gtype=Homepage



    I don't understand this.
    For 50 years you guys stood firm against Russia, now you willingly become their puppet-country :/

    I guess money trumps patriotism, but the latter is sure useful to keep the masses roaring.

    Oh, and talking about Russia, guess what happened after Putin talked with Trump?

    Parts of east Ukraine are on the brink of a humanitarian crisis as the worst violence for a year in the conflict between Kiev and Russia-backed separatists has left up to 19 dead and thousands of people without water and heating in freezing temperatures.

    The violence is an early test of Donald Trump’s stated desire for better US relations with Russia. Kiev has watched nervously as Trump has repeatedly praised Vladimir Putin and floated the idea of lifting sanctions.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-russia-stance

    2 months, and Trump will have lift the sanctions, and Putin will be in Ukraine in force.
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    Trump is just following through with his campaign promises and appointing his friends and yes-men like we knew he would. The real horror will start in a few months when the surprises start. He'll run out of the stuff we know he's going to do soon, but his ego demands that he stays in the spotlight, so he'll so something, anything, just to stay on the news. I wonder what it will be, but I'm already sure it will be bad.

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