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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBopp View Post
    When Supergirl says something publicly, it is - by the nature of who she is - news. Just as if the President makes an allegation about his predecessor without evidence to support his claim, the fact that he says it is news.

    No one paying attention and thinking clearly thinks CatCo is going anywhere soon. Kara needs a connection to everyday people for narrative purposes, and CatCo provides it.
    Oh yeah, I get it. But by the same nature given Carr's apparent rules (that are presumably somehow in place and presumably being applied equally elsewhere) it's still his business to run what he feels is credible. Of course looking back one has to wonder why Supergirl didn't just make the announcement herself elsewhere, since yeah she should be able to easily be able to do so. Karadidn't have to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Well, I imagine it's probably similar to the implant the Cyborg-Supermen have in their heads that prevents J'onn from reading their minds, as Jeremiah demonstrated in the last episode.

    Which still doesn't solve the question of "how," granted...
    That makes sense. Thank you. Yeah, still the question of 'how' is unanswered.


    I get the sense Mon-El isn't proud of his people's reputation or his status as the Prince, and he may not have wanted Kara or the rest of the DEO to treat him any differently had they known he was royalty.

    There also might be some things Mon-El did as prince that he's not very proud of.
    Hmm, maybe


    Those would both be awesome gets for Supergirl .
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyroTwilight View Post
    Oh yeah, I get it. But by the same nature given Carr's apparent rules (that are presumably somehow in place and presumably being applied equally elsewhere) it's still his business to run what he feels is credible.
    The problem with Carr's rules is that they bear little resemblance to good reporting. He's a horrible editor. He has a direct quote from Supergirl - on tape, but won't publish it because he can't verify the truth of what she says. No story would ever get published that way.

    It irritated me also that he used a pocket tape recorder from the 80s instead of video recording her with his phone, but that's the least of his issues.
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    Ah, the old "Tell you your taillight is out so we can abduct you" trick. That was scary. J'onn's test of Alex was messed up, but ultimately, it was necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I kinda hate seeing Kara lose her job, without which she doesn't have much reason to be "Kara Danvers," but I can't say she didn't have it coming. Snapper was spot-on with how she needed better and more reliable sources before she published her article, and it was extremely unprofessional of her to just publish an independent blog with what she had when she was employed by another newspaper. He was also spot-on that she can't just keep using Supergirl as her only main source, which is pretty suspicious in-and-of-itself.
    I want to root for Kara, but so many times I feel like Snapper has a very good point and Kara hasn't been thinking things through.

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    Seeing Kevin Sorbo on Supergirl . . . now I wish Bruce Campbell and Lucy Lawless to guest star.
    This show has had Dean Cain and Lynda Carter. I, personally, am hoping for Adam West and for the three of them to somehow share the screen together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJBopp View Post
    The problem with Carr's rules is that they bear little resemblance to good reporting. He's a horrible editor. He has a direct quote from Supergirl - on tape, but won't publish it because he can't verify the truth of what she says. No story would ever get published that way.

    It irritated me also that he used a pocket tape recorder from the 80s instead of video recording her with his phone, but that's the least of his issues.
    "Supergirl claimed that an unknown source told her that unknown source told her that terrorists have stolen the space alien registry and are kidnapping the people on it for unknown purposes" is what he should run with? Not publishing a sensational, unverifiable claim as news seems like the very definition of responsible journalism to me.

    Now, if Supergirl makes the claim publicly - like the accusations the sitting president has made about his predecessor over Twitter recently, as someone pointed out - then it does become news. But even then, those real world claims came with details that could be investigated - Supergirl's claims didn't.

    Requiring two sources or at least some verifiable details on a story guaranteed to cause a panic doesn't seem like an unattainable standard to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit Walker View Post
    "Supergirl claimed that an unknown source told her that unknown source told her that terrorists have stolen the space alien registry and are kidnapping the people on it for unknown purposes" is what he should run with? Not publishing a sensational, unverifiable claim as news seems like the very definition of responsible journalism to me.

    Now, if Supergirl makes the claim publicly - like the accusations the sitting president has made about his predecessor over Twitter recently, as someone pointed out - then it does become news. But even then, those real world claims came with details that could be investigated - Supergirl's claims didn't.

    Requiring two sources or at least some verifiable details on a story guaranteed to cause a panic doesn't seem like an unattainable standard to me.
    Pretty much. It can be argued that real life news agencies report really news lite "news", but Carr's assessment really is a stab at what responsible reporting is supposed to be.

    Like I mentioned earlier the real failure is Kara treating the topic like Catco is the only one she can go to when she as Supergirl can basically go and yell it anywhere and make it a news story.

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    I wonder if Mon-El is going to get some kind of royal armor or outfit, due to being the prince, that resembles his comic look? Maybe then we'll finally get him in a proper costume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit Walker View Post
    "Supergirl claimed that an unknown source told her that unknown source told her that terrorists have stolen the space alien registry and are kidnapping the people on it for unknown purposes" is what he should run with? Not publishing a sensational, unverifiable claim as news seems like the very definition of responsible journalism to me.

    Now, if Supergirl makes the claim publicly - like the accusations the sitting president has made about his predecessor over Twitter recently, as someone pointed out - then it does become news. But even then, those real world claims came with details that could be investigated - Supergirl's claims didn't.

    Requiring two sources or at least some verifiable details on a story guaranteed to cause a panic doesn't seem like an unattainable standard to me.
    "Supergirl, the hero who has saved the world/city countless times, claimed that the anti-alien terrorist group that's PUBLICALLY KNOWN to be an anti-alien terrorist group, and who's leader was ON TRIAL for her crimes before getting busted out during said trial and is now a wanted fugitive, is kidnapping aliens for some unknown reason."

    Yes, you DO run that story. No news organization in the world wouldn't have run it if this were even remotely close to real life. But then again, these writers have shown that they have no concept of how:

    -The stock market/corporate world.
    -Trials/legal proceedings.
    -Lawyers.
    -Etc.

    Actually work. So it doesn't surprise me that they seem to not know how actual journalism works either. Basically, they got too hamfisted with their "message" and forgot this little thing called accuracy and logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher007 View Post
    "Supergirl, the hero who has saved the world/city countless times, claimed that the anti-alien terrorist group that's PUBLICALLY KNOWN to be an anti-alien terrorist group, and who's leader was ON TRIAL for her crimes before getting busted out during said trial and is now a wanted fugitive, is kidnapping aliens for some unknown reason."

    Yes, you DO run that story. No news organization in the world wouldn't have run it if this were even remotely close to real life. But then again, these writers have shown that they have no concept of how:

    -The stock market/corporate world.
    -Trials/legal proceedings.
    -Lawyers.
    -Etc.

    Actually work. So it doesn't surprise me that they seem to not know how actual journalism works either. Basically, they got too hamfisted with their "message" and forgot this little thing called accuracy and logic.
    Maybe Supergirl should have published the blob instead of letting Kara Danvers take the heat. Probably more people know who Supergirl is than who Kara Danvers is anyway.

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    make daxam great again......

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    Wynn referred to his alien girlfriend as a "She-Hulk? Marvel's lawyers are writing up papers.

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    C'mon you just know that Mon-El and Kara are going to get together again.

    Either that, or just before that happens Mon-El sacrifices his life to save Earth and/or Kara and Kara weeps for him.

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    So Mon-El's Dad, the King, is Lar Gand. I guess that's a nice nod to it being Mon-El's true name in the comics. Though that still begs the question of why Mon-El shares a similar name to the House of El...

    Honestly, I can kind of see where Mon-El was coming from in keeping his true heritage a secret. Given how biased Kara seemed to be when it came to Daxamites, and how much she doubted Mon-El when she thought he was just a royal guard, she might not have given him the time of day if she thought he was part of the royal family of Daxam. Heck, given the planet was destroyed, it's not like his status as the prince mattered anymore.

    With all the bad blood between Krypton and Daxam, and the obvious bias that lends to, it's difficult to discern truth from fact whenever one criticizes the other or vice-versa. Especially after all we've learned about Krytpon so far. Though judging by what Mon-El's said about his parents and living on Daxam, the criticisms of Daxam weren't too far off either.

    I guess Winn really does have a thing for Femme Fatale "bad girls," though at least things with Lyra ended better then his relationship with Siobhan did.

    J'onn couldn't have read Lyra's mind to check if her story about her brother was true? Or maybe he did and that's how Winn got the op approved?

    Man, even when Jimmy gets his own sub-plot and emphasis as Guardian, taking on alien street-crime, he's still getting the tar kicked out of him. Thank goodness we have Alex on this show to demonstrate how you really kick-butt without powers .

    Mon-El telling off his parents like that for how badly they treated Daxam and it's people, and how he wants to be better then that now, is maybe the first time this version of Mon-El reminded me of the comic version. If he could take that attitude and apply it to being the prince, he might actually do some good for Daxam...if he didn't have to get through his parents first.

    Lar Gand and Raya gave Mon-El up a lot more easily then I was expecting, and it seems like a waste of Kevin Sorbo and Teri Hatcher to only use them for one episode, but there's probably not a lot the Daxamites can do given a single bullet could take them out and their abilities are limited compared to a Kryptonian's. The only thing in their favor is their battleship. Though I do wonder if we'll see them again, and as more direct antagonists...

    Well, 2-3 episodes with Mon-El is a record as far as Kara's love life is concerned, so I guess that was nice even if it was still tough watching that breakup .

    Was that effect on Music Meister's eyes when he used his powers supposed to be alluding to the cartoon pupils he had on Brave and the Bold?

    So...now instead of just inducing people to sing and dance through the power of his own voice, the Music Meister throws people into an alternate reality where they're forced to sing? I have to say I don't quite see why they had to change Meister's powers, given their plenty fun and zany as is, though on the other hand with the way things are now we do get to see Kara in a gorgeous period dress .

    I hope Meister not needing to sing to use his powers here doesn't mean we won't get to hear Darren Criss sing for the special. Would feel like a waste of casting him in the role otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    So Mon-El's Dad, the King, is Lar Gand. I guess that's a nice nod to it being Mon-El's true name in the comics. Though that still begs the question of why Mon-El shares a similar name to the House of El...
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    Could be just a coincidence. I mean, are Christopher Lee and Jim Lee related? (I would have used Stan Lee, but that's not his given name.)

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    Though with Mon-El and the House Of El they are two different races on two different planets and El is basically Kara's last name already so it would be something that would come up when they met, I used to work with a guy that when he got married his wife didn't have to change her last name as she had the same last name as the guy that I used to work with, their fathers even had the same first name as well...and no they weren't related so it was fine, fine...but just weird...

    But no I don't believe that those two are related...

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