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    Default TV Supergirl [Spoilers]

    I have to admit I'm looking forward to this. I haven't seen or heard anything about this show that gives me pause. The only thing that even approaches a question is a lingering doubt that the production quality can be maintained (take a look at the first episode of House, for example, and you'll see production quality that is never attempted again).

    Vox.com had a review today that makes me more excited for it than previously.

    "There's a difference between a serious superhero and a superhero played seriously."

    This sort of observation is like manna from heaven to me. It's why I didn't care for Man of Steel, and don't look forward to Batman v Superman. It's why I think Amazing Spider-man did less well than Raimi Spider-man. Serious superhero fits Batman in live action, and almost no other superhero.

    It appears that Supergirl gets it. I can't wait to find out more.
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    Haven't seen the pilot that leaked, but it looks great.

    Amazing costume, the effects look more than decent for television, love the actress playing Kara and I'm excited to see Maxwell Lord finally appear outside of comic books.

    But, as excited as I am to see Red Tornado, his suit looks pretty tacky.

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    I have seen the pilot and can't wait for more. I loved what I saw. Can't wait to see Peter as Max Lord

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    Yeah, this and Blindspot are the two shows I was/am most excited about. I really hope it does well, though I'm nervous about it not being in the best time slot for it to succeed. *fingerscrossed*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awonder View Post
    Yeah, this and Blindspot are the two shows I was/am most excited about. I really hope it does well, though I'm nervous about it not being in the best time slot for it to succeed. *fingerscrossed*
    I think the show's regular slot (Mondays at 8:00) is actually pretty good. Its only major competition is really "The Voice." Yeah, it's going against "Gotham" but Gotham is hardly a ratings juggernaut and Supergirl is likely to draw a significant audience segment of people who don't watch Gotham.

    (Blindspot is turning out to be much better than I expected, although admittedly my expectations were quite low.)

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    I've already seen the pilot (assuming no changes were made, which is probably safe to assume) and quite enjoyed it. I hope this does well enough to continue on for at least a few seasons.

    I have no hangs-ups on "TV show vs. comics" as I am not the biggest DC fan. Announcement of the show, however, led me to try out some Supergirl trades; was quite sad to see her solo canceled shortly before the debut of the show. Maybe a successful show can help change this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    I've already seen the pilot (assuming no changes were made, which is probably safe to assume) and quite enjoyed it. I hope this does well enough to continue on for at least a few seasons.

    I have no hangs-ups on "TV show vs. comics" as I am not the biggest DC fan. Announcement of the show, however, led me to try out some Supergirl trades; was quite sad to see her solo canceled shortly before the debut of the show. Maybe a successful show can help change this.
    The changes from the leaked pilot if constantine to the aired one were incredibly jarring and one of the things that got me to stop watching/caring. That and the fact that I had just marathoned 9 seasons of supernatural and canstantine wasn't offering me anything new

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    My one problem. Kryptonese???? Try Kryptonian

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    Wait-a-minute!

    Superman has been public knowledge for quite a while by this point, yet the idea of aliens existing is still scoffed upon by the public? Do they think he's a metahuman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saul_on_the_road_to_damascus View Post
    My one problem. Kryptonese???? Try Kryptonian
    My one problem: Why did the alien bad guy run away from puny human missiles?

    Otherwise a very promising start.
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    I am not sure yet. It was so cheesy in some places especially the stuff between the sisters and the whole "Henshaw hates them filthy aliens" angle. The effects were pretty good and Benoit is pretty good as Supergirl, but there are just so many plot holes in the writing. I mean you are saying that a whole Phantom Zone prison crashed on Earth and that is not Superman's top priority? Or that he just left Kara's ship lying around for the DEO to find? You can not use Superman as such a central figure in your shows mythology and then just ignore common sense things to explain away glaring plot holes.

    I will give it another episode or two to see how it plays out, but am on the fence right now.

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    I enjoyed the pilot overall, I agree it was pretty cheesy in parts, and the Kryptonese line was kind of silly (It should be Kryptonian) But overall I think its an enjoyable enough show to stick with.
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    It certainly had its fair she of cheesy contrivances:

    • How did Kara not notice the city-size space station trailing in her wake as she exited the Phantom Zone?
    • How did the DEO get their hands on Kara's ship? Did her "parents" turn it over to them? Because it seems unlikely that Superman would have just left it sitting in the desert, waiting for someone to find.
    • Who, in this day and age, still has a lo-res camera on their cell phone? And how is it only one person on the plane got a picture of her?
    • Was it really necessary to repeatedly refer to her as a "female hero"? She's a woman. We get it!
    • "James" could have at least tried to employ a bit of subtlety when he was dropping hints to Kara. As it was, he came across as kind of a smug jerk.
    • For someone who likely never threw a punch in her life before, Kara seemed like a pretty proficient fighter, esp. since she was going up against a guy who was an ex-con and probably a soldier.
    • Given that the show openly acknowledges Superman's existence, the lengths they went through to avoid saying the word "Superman" were almost comical. I assume there are some kind of rights issues in play.


    All that aside . . . I quite liked it. Benoist was good, as was Chyler Leigh. Henshaw was a complete dick, but I liked the character and the way the actor played him. I did think that Flockhart was a bit too arch, a slight caricature of the heartless boss. Hopefully she dials it back going forward. I thought the action scenes were quite good and entertaining. Quality production values and execution. Some real punch to them.

    I like "Kryptonese." It actually makes more sense used as the name of a language/dialect, esp. since they presumably speak more than one language on Krypton.

    All in all, a solid opening.

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    Very cheesy. But Supergirl reminds me of Felicity from Arrow. I might stick with it for a few more episodes to see if it loses it's cheesiness

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    I like that henshaw is distrusting of those aliens.
    Definitely felt like an illegal immigration metaphor (unless I'm reading too much into it)

    Felt they laid it on a bit thick with the whole "you just think that because she's a girl" angle. I don't think I'll mind it if it has some more nuance going forward.

    The axe that's capable of cutting her exploding in her face and there not even being one flesh wound and something to the effect of "that was close" is a minor gripe, but something that stuck out to me.

    Kara should really ease up on herself, the invasion is not her fault, season 6 of Smallville is a better example of a member of the house of El having some fault for an invasion.

    Kara's evil aunt being the seasonal big bad seems like a good idea and definitely liked the blanket kal-el was wrapped in as a kid being used.

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