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    Default What do we want in Amazing Spider-Man 3?

    So with the box office numbers and reviews of the second film leading to the possible(and hopeful) delay of the third film the possibility of Sony learning their lessons might come when news spread. So for the mean time let's type about what we want in the third film:

    What I want in the third film can be best expressed with this list:

    -Peter actually acting smart and showing his intelligence. In the first film we can see that Peter is adapting more and more of his intelligence as the film goes on. However I have no idea if he was ever smart to begin with because if he was so smart he should've come along to the oscorp field trip while trying to figure out the mystery of his parents. Some people or haters might even say that he only got interested in science because of his father's clues but when you look at his boards there are some scientific and mathatical equations that look like it was written for like 2 years judging by the dirt and scratches. However in 2 he's reduced to a total dumbass when he couldn't figure out what batteries and magnets are and most of the time Gwen helps him out. It's just rather insulting to what makes the character so special to begin with. So for the third film I want him to come up with things on his own and we really need to see him invent stuff like what tony stark did in the first iron man film so that we can feel smart.

    -I want there to be some consequences. In the second film there were no consequences for what Peter has caused. Maybe there were a few but at the end there were like none at all so of something bad happened because of something Peter did I want it to happen and I want it to be written well.

    -get some new writers. I love what Roberto and Alex has done with the rough cut if the film but for now I really want things to be played safe judging by some of their other films regardless of a couple was messed around with talentless hacks. For starters I'd love if if the writers of breaking bad could handle spidey. I mean they captured so much human emotion from breaking bad I can actually feel what all of the characters went through. So I really want to see what they could do with him.

    -I want uncle ben to be important on the film. In the second fm due to Sony's unknown reasoning for cutting out important stuff from the second film uncle ben was not mentioned once. Not even a ghost of him ever appeared. It was even insulting when the death of his girlfriend had a greater impact than the death of his uncle making the character feel like some unfair prick and destroying part of the myth is of the character so for starters I want uncle ben to be part of the third film whenever Peter feels like he's struggling or something worse happens. It's not bad that Gwen would get done attention but family is important too which brings me to number 4.

    -I want more of Peter and aunt may. In the two films Peter and may had less interactions with eachother due to sloppy editing from both films. In the comics aunt may was one of the most important things for Peter Parker and was even one ofcthexpeople who helped him out with his life so for starters I want may to be important in the film and the franchise in general.

    -I want them to pick the right Mary Jane looks and acting wise. When shailene was castes as MJ in this movie she got alot of harassment with people calling her ugly, she looks like a foot, looks like Channing tatum or whatever and the disgusting editorial from from **************.com. If she was still on film she would've done something worse to herself while people wouldn't care because they are safe from the majority while hiding their fears and regret for what they've done. I'd love for shailene to come back but after the flack she recieved I want them to pick the right actress for Mary Jane looks AND acting wise. By looks wise I want her to be just good looking instead of just a supermodel which removes and relatability and tension so I want someone like Jane levy or Karen gillen to play as MJ.

    -like everyone I really think mysterio has the potential to be a great villain. He can use some effects to make something inspired from famous horror movies, science fiction movies, fantasy movies even done stuff created by his own works. It can even be a part of Peter's road to recovery and symbiote story if mysterio knows who he is and tries to mess with his mind by adding illusions of his uncle, connors, harry, girlfriend and his parents and even scare him by by putting an illusion of mysterio killing aunt may. The venom stage can finally hit when mysterio finally reached his nerve point.

    - also want j Jonah Jameson in the movie and I want him to play a role in Peter's life and I want jk Simmons to reprise his role. If he doesn't then that jerky guy from scrubs can replace him. By that guy from scrubs I meant he would be the only one who'd be in par with jk Simmons. There's like no one else who can top him. He's like RDJ. It's impossible to replace him


    -no messing around with the film. In both films thanks to Sony messing with the creator's works the fs didn't receive promising reviews nor were they huge hits at the box office even having their box office numbers seem rather pathetic. So if the want to earn money and keep the writes they shod let the creators handle the own work so they can give us a great spiderman film. Webb has had potential. Lets hope his full work gets revealed in the final film


    - please no overmarketing. Along with the choppy editing the over marketing ruined the whole movie experience spoiling everything and was also one of the reasons why this movie failed at the box office. So why not make it just a good trailer and leave the important stuff like something invvibg Peter and spider man, aunt may, Mary Jane, and something big and surprising involving the villain and his action including another possible villain in the story. You haven't had good reviews for both movies as well as disappointing box office numbers so I suggest you play it smart and stay faithful to the fans and viewers.


    So what do you want in the third installment?

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    GOOD villains, not lame ones. Well developed characters. A general tone. An action sequence that can finally rival against the train sequence in SM2. Respect Uncle Bens character. Stop visiting Peters goddamn parents. A new movie that I can see before I saw all of it due to the marketing. Don't overstuff the film with too many stories.

    Oh, and a good film would be nice as well.

    Ok, on a more serious note : I want the sisnter six to be threatening. If this is Garfields last film, don't introduce MJ. Introduce the Daily Bugle. Cast BRYAN CRANSTAN as JJJ! He's the only actor in my mind would could rival JK Simmons. Make it happen Sony!
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE DANGER965 View Post
    GOOD villains, not lame ones. Well developed characters. A general tone. An action sequence that can finally rival against the train sequence in SM2. Respect Uncle Bens character. Stop visiting Peters goddamn parents. A new movie that I can see before I saw all of it due to the marketing. Don't overstuff the film with too many stories.

    Oh, and a good film would be nice as well.

    Ok, on a more serious note : I want the sisnter six to be threatening. If this is Garfields last film, don't introduce MJ. Introduce the Daily Bugle. Cast BRYAN CRANSTAN as JJJ! He's the only actor in my mind would could rival JK Simmons. Make it happen Sony!
    well said. the villains can be sympathetic but they have to be more intimidating and well written and not edited to death. the characters like i said needed to be well developed and they were from both unedited versions of the films so just leave the characters alone.

    speaking of which, if the movie is really really long just leave it alone. i don't care how long the movie is just don't edit out everything because of the last two films the third one doesn't need to be edited and i really don't mind longer films anymore and neither should the audiance after the messes you've made.

    bryan cranston would totally be a perfect replacement for jk simmons. i mean the only two guys who can be on par with him are cranston and that guy from scrubs. infact, when i saw breaking bad i was thinking to myself if marvel gets the rights to spiderman back bryan would make a great norman osborn. WB and DC lost their chances of making him lex luthor and james gordan so cranston as jameson would be great. plus, i already felt him to be more suited in a marvel role considering how successful marvel is doing and how many bog named actors are casted in each marvel films.

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    A villain I actually care for. Don't make him a campy weirdo. Also, make a villain that legitimately stresses Peter out and makes him question what he does. Also actual fight scenes. I may be wrong, but I actually don't think there was one punch thrown in the last movie

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    Scrap the Sinister Six film idea and instead use the ideas for that film in ASM3. Then after that film, if it was a success, talk about a Sinister Six solo film, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    Scrap the Sinister Six film idea and instead use the ideas for that film in ASM3. Then after that film, if it was a success, talk about a Sinister Six solo film, maybe.
    This and don't' make the plot too convoluted and disjointed unlike ASM2. Smooth transitions between acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marvelguy25 View Post
    well said. the villains can be sympathetic but they have to be more intimidating and well written and not edited to death. the characters like i said needed to be well developed and they were from both unedited versions of the films so just leave the characters alone.

    speaking of which, if the movie is really really long just leave it alone. i don't care how long the movie is just don't edit out everything because of the last two films the third one doesn't need to be edited and i really don't mind longer films anymore and neither should the audiance after the messes you've made.

    bryan cranston would totally be a perfect replacement for jk simmons. i mean the only two guys who can be on par with him are cranston and that guy from scrubs. infact, when i saw breaking bad i was thinking to myself if marvel gets the rights to spiderman back bryan would make a great norman osborn. WB and DC lost their chances of making him lex luthor and james gordan so cranston as jameson would be great. plus, i already felt him to be more suited in a marvel role considering how successful marvel is doing and how many bog named actors are casted in each marvel films.
    Right on. Sadly every character that Cranston could play in a comicbookmovie are now pretty much taken.
    But JJJ ain't taken! Cranston is also an amazing comedic actor, and I got the idea from his character off from How I Met your Mother.

    Which guy from Scrubs are you interested in?! Neil Flynn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    Scrap the Sinister Six film idea and instead use the ideas for that film in ASM3. Then after that film, if it was a success, talk about a Sinister Six solo film, maybe.
    yeah, just scrap the sinister six. i don't believe they can do well on their own if you can't introduce them in a spidey flick first. if you really wanted to make a good sinister six movie thanks to the avengers just make some good spidey flicks as well and like i said even if it's long just leave them alone because after what you did to both films i really don't care how long this movie has to be anymore and neither should the audiance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE DANGER965 View Post
    Right on. Sadly every character that Cranston could play in a comicbookmovie are now pretty much taken.
    But JJJ ain't taken! Cranston is also an amazing comedic actor, and I got the idea from his character off from How I Met your Mother.

    Which guy from Scrubs are you interested in?! Neil Flynn?
    i was thinking about the guy who played as dr.cox

    also here are a list of deleted scenes i foun d for this scene:

    00:05:03:02 DELETED SCENE - PETER MEETS HIS FATHER
    00:01:24:14 ALTERNATE SCENE - COCKPIT DISCOVERY
    00:01:02:16 DELETED SCENE - FLASH FORWARD
    00:01:19:11 ALTERNATE SCENE - MAYHEM IN THE MORGUE
    00:02:08:03 ALTERNATE SCENE - MISSING EACH OTHER
    00:00:42:01 DELETED SCENE - IS PETER HOME?
    00:01:41:08 DELETED SCENE - CHASING GWEN
    00:00:39:15 DELETED SCENE - FELICIA SEES HER BOSS
    00:00:23:07 DELETED SCENE - GOBLIN KILLS MENKEN
    00:01:34:11 DELETED SCENE - MAX'S MOTHER
    00:04:14:19 ALTERNATE SCENE - PETER VISITS HARRY
    00:00:56:23 DELETED SCENE - OXFORD ACCEPTANCE
    00:01:20:06 ALTERNATE SCENE - BIRTH OF THE GOBLIN

    sad that there's no alternate gwen death plus beating plus uncle ben >. it would really be a good idea to give us a director's cut
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    They need another big story to adapt from the comics. Several of them have been done onscreen already, from the Lee / Ditko era up to the black costume era. Most of the stories going into the 90's would be too continuity-heavy to adapt or make sense of onscreen (Clone Saga, I'm looking at you).

    A Sinister Six story makes the most sense to tackle. It does need a fair amount of set up though, unless they can introduce characters succintly and quickly, like Kraven, Chameleon and Ock. Probably needs a few movies to really work though.

    Quote Originally Posted by marvelguy25 View Post
    -get some new writers. I love what Roberto and Alex has done with the rough cut if the film but for now I really want things to be played safe judging by some of their other films regardless of a couple was messed around with talentless hacks. For starters I'd love if if the writers of breaking bad could handle spidey. I mean they captured so much human emotion from breaking bad I can actually feel what all of the characters went through. So I really want to see what they could do with him
    I actually really like this idea, and would go one further and say get Breaking Bad director / creator Vince Gilligan to direct and write the next movie.

    There is some precedent to this as BB dealt with themes of Walter White's dual life, and him trying to hide what he was doing from his family.

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    Have Peter proactively go after the criminal empire Harry is building from his Ravencroft cell to the point he loses himself in the Spidey persona. Then you can have someone like MJ, social butterfly that she is, come along and reintroduce him to actually having a life outside the costume. He of course does nothing but talk about Gwen, but it's an endearing quality to MJ. Dude is obviously a romantic without realizing it.

    Play up the rivalry between Peter and Harry without them actually interacting. But they get each other's message loud and clear. That'll build up to the final battle where Peter infiltrates Ravencroft as a patient, learns a few things about himself, and during a big riot has a bare-knuckled, maskless brawl with Harry. Just primal, brutal stuff.

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    Given the focus on Peter Parker's private life, it seems that Spider-Man films don't handle multiple villains well. So what I'd like to see is Sony drop plans for the Sinister Six and Venom sequels, and to focus on one main villain for the next one. If I had to write a screenplay for that tomorrow, Harry's Sinister Six falls apart when he's unable to control Mysterio.

    However, Sony wants to make as much money as possible in short order ,their film division is doing well and they've made a lot of commitments to future films.

    Maybe it would be better to have a band-aid strategy. Amazing Spider-Man 3 could seed the Venom and Sinister Six films, while Amazing Spider-Man 4 would just have Peter Parker VS one main villain.

    In ASM 3, Peter Parker would be roommates with Flash Thompson, who lost his limbs in the military. The Sinister Six would be Harry Osborn, Rhino, Electro, Black Cat, The Gentleman and Chameleon. Peter would find the alien costume, which would give him power over his enemies, but also corrupt him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    In ASM 3, Peter Parker would be roommates with Flash Thompson, who lost his limbs in the military. The Sinister Six would be Harry Osborn, Rhino, Electro, Black Cat, The Gentleman and Chameleon. Peter would find the alien costume, which would give him power over his enemies, but also corrupt him.
    Still seems like way too much story for one film. I would have him going up against one villain like Scorpion, or two at the most, and bring in Vulture. Carnage could even be a possibility and carry a film all on his own.

    After Raimi's SM3, I think having the black costume being an alien again would be a misstep. They might as well go the Ultimate route and have it be some super suit being developed by Oscorp. Much more in line with this new series' themes.

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    if the next film involves peter bringing down oscorp then maybe the climax would involve the symbiote suit and then go to the fourth film and tell the story from there and introduce venom and the next film introduce venom.

    as for some of the ideas like flash as a roomate, etc. like i stated in the other forums after the bad editing sony put in i really don't care how long the film is. hell, i don't even care if it's 5 hours long and second i believe spiderman works best on tv than on film because the development of every story, characters, and mythos are huge! you know, it would've been a good idea to just give the films rights to spiderman so sony can continue with the spectacular spiderman and make their own tv shows if they ever want to hit big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Given the focus on Peter Parker's private life, it seems that Spider-Man films don't handle multiple villains well. So what I'd like to see is Sony drop plans for the Sinister Six and Venom sequels, and to focus on one main villain for the next one. If I had to write a screenplay for that tomorrow, Harry's Sinister Six falls apart when he's unable to control Mysterio.

    However, Sony wants to make as much money as possible in short order ,their film division is doing well and they've made a lot of commitments to future films.

    Maybe it would be better to have a band-aid strategy. Amazing Spider-Man 3 could seed the Venom and Sinister Six films, while Amazing Spider-Man 4 would just have Peter Parker VS one main villain.

    In ASM 3, Peter Parker would be roommates with Flash Thompson, who lost his limbs in the military. The Sinister Six would be Harry Osborn, Rhino, Electro, Black Cat, The Gentleman and Chameleon. Peter would find the alien costume, which would give him power over his enemies, but also corrupt him.
    even if they are "doing so well" they really should learnb from their mistakes because if they screw around with the third film not only will spiderman and crew be ruined but sony as a company will be screwed because if either venom, sinistser six, or the amazing spiderman 3 came and they decide to mess around with them for no reason they are screwed. one one would see a spiderman movie from them again until they give the rights back to marvel

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