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    Quote Originally Posted by Assam View Post
    I don't think it will, but hopefully the trade market will keep the book alive. I'd really love to know why they aren't re-launching it at #1...
    I wonder why also, but I guess they feel the issue a good enough catch up point for a relaunch and they also know people complain about marvel doing constant relaunches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever View Post
    Action comics performs better than Detective Comics? Good.
    How good do you think the sales are now that the November figures have been released?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Learner View Post
    Action comics performs better than Detective Comics? Good.
    How good do you think the sales are now that the November figures have been released?
    The flagship books are doing good considering the state of the current market, but both are heading towards the sub 40k range. November's Action probably would been less than 40k if it hadn't been for the Oz Effect bump.

    After Action Comics #1000 and at the latest, the conclusion of Doomsday Clock, if there isn't a shakeup of the creative teams, I see both books crashing in terms of sales and having a hard time recovering after new creative teams take over.
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    I agree that switching creative teams works better to stop a book from dropping to a certain point rather than digging them out of that point. However, a dramatic uptick beyond two issues is realistically reserved for a Grant Morrison or a Jim Lee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagaton View Post
    I agree that switching creative teams works better to stop a book from dropping to a certain point rather than digging them out of that point. However, a dramatic uptick beyond two issues is realistically reserved for a Grant Morrison or a Jim Lee.
    Yes, unless there's a team made up of big names that also deliver unanimously well received stories, sales aren't going to increase by tens of thousands and remain at that level. But a different team may be able to stabilize sales in the 40k range for both books in the long run without having to resort to crossovers.

    There's also the matter of how the eventual price increase and putting a stop to double shipping is going to affect sales. It's going to happen eventually, since not all writers can manage the bimonthly schedule.
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    I feel like the current teams have been bouncing along the side of a bucking bull already with managing the double shipping. The current releases make people quicker to try a title with its lower price, and makes it a little more hairy to jump off a subscription, since the issues come up so fast and people with a decent relationship with their LCS won't stick them with the two or three issues released after a drop.

    Of course that last part isn't an issue with digital... but I also agree that the $4 monthly should be coming back pretty soon and personally I don't quite like paying a little more for something intangible.

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    December 2017 sales figures

    Superman 36 - 44,281
    Superman 37 - 48,591
    Action Comics 993 - 42,016
    Action Comics 994 - 41,495
    Super Sons 11 - 37,356
    Doomsday Clock 2 - 158,603
    Supergirl 16 - 28,450
    Trinity 16 - 25,178
    Superwoman 17 - 11,414.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Learner View Post
    December 2017 sales figures

    Superman 36 - 44,281
    Superman 37 - 48,591
    Action Comics 993 - 42,016
    Action Comics 994 - 41,495
    Super Sons 11 - 37,356
    Doomsday Clock 2 - 158,603
    Supergirl 16 - 28,450
    Trinity 16 - 25,178
    Superwoman 17 - 11,414.
    New Super-Man #18- 10, 387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assam View Post
    New Super-Man #18- 10, 387
    I forgot about Kenan. Why is that book selling so low? I have mostly heard good things about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Learner View Post
    I forgot about Kenan. Why is that book selling so low? I have mostly heard good things about it.
    As did I. It's inexplicable to me a book this good isn't selling higher. I'm really glad that they decided not to cancel it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosawater View Post
    As did I. It's inexplicable to me a book this good isn't selling higher. I'm really glad that they decided not to cancel it.
    The price of being a newly created character as opposed to an established character usually means their comics don't sell as well. Even though New Super-Man is critically acclaimed and has a loyal fan following which helped save the title from cancellation, Kenan still isn't well known enough. Which means his comic will struggle to break 20K again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Learner View Post
    I forgot about Kenan. Why is that book selling so low? I have mostly heard good things about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by rosawater View Post
    As did I. It's inexplicable to me a book this good isn't selling higher. I'm really glad that they decided not to cancel it.
    It really is a masterpiece, but like Lvenger said, this is what happens when you're a new character. Fortunately the book is doing really well in trade sales, Yang has said that was a major part of why the book avoided cancellation, but I still really wish DC had relaunched the JLC title at #1, rather than just rebrand it, which likely won't raise sales.
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    January 2018 sales figures

    Doomsday Clock - 157,714
    Superman 38 - 47,261
    Superman 39 - 44,402
    Action Comics 995 - 41,987
    Action Comics 996 - 41,331
    Super Sons 12 - 35,608
    Supergirl 17 - 26,466
    New Super-Man 19 - 10,069
    Trinity 17 - 24,530

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