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    Default movie Silver Surfer vs movie Doomsday

    So, Silver Surfer from Rise of the Silver Surfer versus Doomsday from Dawn of Justice.

    Silver Surfer replaces the heroes from Dawn of Justice in the fight against Doomsday. How does he do?

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    He kicks Dooomsdays ass as DD cannot get him off the board unless applied smarts. Something he did not have.



    Surfer was basically flying plot device. True to comics there.

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    super skrull johnny storm hurt dr doom with Surfers powers did Silver Surfer have transmutation powers? if not thers not a lot he can do to DD maybe the suicide attack but it KO'd Surfer in the end and i doubt it killd Galactus so a stalemate?
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    Doom was having pis and super skull Johnnys touch disrupt powers in general due to SS exposure. He had super speed blitz the Warth making those holes to core for Galactus, brought Sue back from the dead and did take out fig Galactus in a quick fashion. He could just do a transmutation energy blast like what Doom did to dickbhead military guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chou Lives View Post
    Doom was having pis and super skull Johnnys touch disrupt powers in general due to SS exposure. He had super speed blitz the Warth making those holes to core for Galactus, brought Sue back from the dead and did take out fig Galactus in a quick fashion. He could just do a transmutation energy blast like what Doom did to dickbhead military guy.
    he can win with transmutation the power absorption thing was never shown effecting cosmic dr doom or Silver Surfer just other members of the FF and improving dooms looks for reasons? the super speed was travel speed not fighting speed and supermans fighting speed is way better then Surfers so we know doomday can deal with it the suicide attack ko'd Surfer two if he uses it so its going to be a stalemate im not sure the Surfers beams are going to put him down the nuke sure didn't and DD is not going to be easy to hit hell if he trys DD can just jump up and hit him or use a AOE attk point is if super skrull johnny storm can hurt him so can DD Surfers one hope is transmutation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    he can win with transmutation the power absorption thing was never shown effecting cosmic dr doom or Silver Surfer just other members of the FF and improving dooms looks for reasons? the super speed was travel speed not fighting speed and supermans fighting speed is way better then Surfers so we know doomday can deal with it the suicide attack ko'd Surfer two if he uses it so its going to be a stalemate im not sure the Surfers beams are going to put him down the nuke sure didn't and DD is not going to be easy to hit hell if he trys DD can just jump up and hit him or use a AOE attk point is if super skrull johnny storm can hurt him so can DD Surfers one hope is transmutation.
    One chance? Surfer can go intangible, fire energy blasts that OS movie Doom (who shrugs punches from a guy who has better strength feats than movie Superman), hit silly speeds, and use his board like some kind of teleporting gateway to redirect things like movie Blink, and fly at high multiples of lightspeed. Let's see: energy blast to stun/distract, blitz, phase, pass through as stupid DD flails, unphase, grab DD by his back, catapult him into the freaking sun. This isn't comic Supes: there are no feats for surviving inside a sun or getting powered up by same. Or simply space toss him: no flight feats, right? This ignores using a somewhat less powerful energy blast to KO DD without KO'ing himself, or transmutation, or disintegration (like opening up holes to the core of the planet) or other stuff. All this while, again, immune to damage thanks to intangibility at worst.

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    Surfer kills him

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Surfer can go intangible, fire energy blasts
    going intangible is not going to hellp a lot in a combat situation hes not shadowcat as for the energy blasts i dont think its going to put DD down for good he did survive a nuke just fine and can just jump up and hit SS back or use a AOE attk.

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    OS movie Doom (who shrugs punches from a guy who has better strength feats than movie Superman)
    who thing? skrull johnny with things powers? superman took out the World Engine thing had trouble holding up the London Eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    hit silly speeds, and use his board like some kind of teleporting gateway to redirect things like movie Blink, and fly at high multiples of lightspeed.
    thats travel speed not combat speed DD can deal with supermans speed just fine so he can deal with Surfers combat speed to as for the teleporting gateway? do you mean when SS absorbs the missile into the board? he was never shown absorbing a doomsday like bing so i dont see how it can hellp.

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Let's see: energy blast to stun/distract, blitz, phase, pass through as stupid DD flails, unphase, grab DD by his back, catapult him into the freaking sun. This isn't comic Supes: there are no feats for surviving inside a sun or getting powered up by same. Or simply space toss him: no flight feats, right? This ignores using a somewhat less powerful energy blast to KO DD without KO'ing himself, or transmutation, or disintegration (like opening up holes to the core of the planet) or other stuff. All this while, again, immune to damage thanks to intangibility at worst.
    i dont think hes stuning him hes not bliting him hes not tossing him and i dont think the hole was all the way to the core of the planet did they say it was?

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    One chance?
    yup as i see it transmutation is the One chance he has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    going intangible is not going to hellp a lot in a combat situation hes not shadowcat as for the energy blasts i dont think its going to put DD down for good he did survive a nuke just fine and can just jump up and hit SS back or use a AOE attk.



    who thing? skrull johnny with things powers? superman took out the World Engine thing had trouble holding up the London Eye.



    thats travel speed not combat speed DD can deal with supermans speed just fine so he can deal with Surfers combat speed to as for the teleporting gateway? do you mean when SS absorbs the missile into the board? he was never shown absorbing a doomsday like bing so i dont see how it can hellp.


    i dont think hes stuning him hes not bliting him hes not tossing him and i dont think the hole was all the way to the core of the planet did they say it was?





    yup as i see it transmutation is the One chance he has.
    He's Shadowcat enough to charge DD, phase through, unphase on the far side, grab DD by his back, and space toss him.

    Energy blasts don't have to KO him, they just need to distract, knock back, or blow the ground out from beneath him if somehow the very stupid DD manages to suss out the plan Surfer is trying.

    The holes were explicitly stated to go to the core of the earth, IIRC.

    And in the first FF movie, Thing punched Doom and accomplished... jack. It took the combined attack of everyone to KO Doom - straight punches didn't do jack. And Supes didn't lift the World Engine - lifting the London Eye is at least as impressive smashing a big space tinkertoy. And the London Eye is bigger than the WE in any case.

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    What's bigger the London eye or the ship Supes casually dragged?

    Not that it matters much since Surfer still owns the entire DCEU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonknight11 View Post
    What's bigger the London eye or the ship Supes casually dragged?

    Not that it matters much since Surfer still owns the entire DCEU.
    Lifting does not equal dragging, though. I can drag a HELL of a lot more than I can carry.

    Doesn't really matter though, for this fight - you can spot Supes a pretty big strength edge on the Thing and it changes literally nothing at all about this battle.

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    Doomsday knocks him off his board and then beats him too death. Suffer ain't good enough to phase, grab, and toss without doomsday spin backfiring him right onto his shiny butt. Doubt WAS would even try that anyway. DD 10/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvel-Studios Rep View Post
    Doomsday knocks him off his board and then beats him too death. Suffer ain't good enough to phase, grab, and toss without doomsday spin backfiring him right onto his shiny butt. Doubt WAS would even try that anyway. DD 10/10
    1: Surfer couldn't be seperated from his board without plot divices.

    2: WAS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    He's Shadowcat enough to charge DD, phase through, unphase on the far side, grab DD by his back, and space toss him.
    strength feats for movie silver surfer being able to space toss something doomsdays size befor he can hit him back?


    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Energy blasts don't have to KO him, they just need to distract, knock back, or blow the ground out from beneath him
    fair enough but its still not going to put DD down for the 10 count knocking him back or burieing him is not going to work hes just going to keep comeing back.


    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    if somehow the very stupid DD manages to suss out the plan Surfer is trying.
    why do you keep mentioning how stupid DD is? i dont see what doomsdays IQ has to do with the fight...

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    The holes were explicitly stated to go to the core of the earth, IIRC.
    i see cool did he do the holes in one big blast DBZ style or did he need time to do it?

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    And in the first FF movie, Thing punched Doom and accomplished... jack. It took the combined attack of everyone to KO Doom - straight punches didn't do jack.
    thats cool and all but its still far below doomsday who took on superman wonder woman and a nuclear bomb.

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    And Supes didn't lift the World Engine - lifting the London Eye is at least as impressive smashing a big space tinkertoy. And the London Eye is bigger than the WE in any case.
    it may be bigger but you can bet The World Engine is heavier and more durabili and im not trying to be a ass but to say the London Eye feat is as impressive as the World Engine feat is kind of ridiculous its like saying hulks leviathan feat is as impressive as the London Eye feat its just not true.

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