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    Default How do you want Secret Empire to end?

    Like it says. Since we know most of the solicits for the main book now, how do you expect/want Secret Empire to end, and what will happen afterward?

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    Probably a combination of cosmic cube shenanigans to fix some stuff along with an ending that shows what it means to be Captain America, similar to the end of Superior Spider-Man.

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    How do I want it to end?
    I want some cosmic force to come down and make it so the entire event never happened and then have nobody ever reference it again.

    How do I expect it to end?

    Not that. Cap's reputation will be tarnished, he'll feel ashamed, no other hero will trust him, and the whole thing will suck. And that's if we're lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    How do I want it to end?
    I want some cosmic force to come down and make it so the entire event never happened and then have nobody ever reference it again.

    How do I expect it to end?

    Not that. Cap's reputation will be tarnished, he'll feel ashamed, no other hero will trust him, and the whole thing will suck. And that's if we're lucky.
    And don't forget backlash against the superhero community as a whole from the people who actually liked having the Secret Empire/HYDRA in charge or at least preferred it to "out-of-touch superhuman elitists pretending to protect us when they never gave a damn about us in the first place."
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    Cap remembers what had happened before Kobik, and pulls a Lelouch. Now world reflects and moves forward at the point where they almost were all enslaved and that threat is eliminated by heroes they lost their trust in from the Second Superhuman Civil War. But while the people may like them the world governments are non ready to trust the heroes and each other. It wouldn't be a forced Superhuman Registration Act but unless you are part of a nation super team chances are they won't help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    And don't forget backlash against the superhero community as a whole from the people who actually liked having the Secret Empire/HYDRA in charge or at least preferred it to "out-of-touch superhuman elitists pretending to protect us when they never gave a damn about us in the first place."
    I never viewed any of the marvel heroes as elitists not with carol danvers not with tony stark and certainly not with Peter Parker.

    So I fail to see who you're referencing as out of touch elitists since carol tony and peter aren't that and never have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ianbarreilles View Post
    I never viewed any of the marvel heroes as elitists not with carol danvers not with tony stark and certainly not with Peter Parker.

    So I fail to see who you're referencing as out of touch elitists since carol tony and peter aren't that and never have been.
    I think he was referring to how the civilians in the Marvel Universe are going to react, not his actual views on any of the characters.

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    Cap remembering what he was made to do and dealing with the fallout of that would be good; Steve is one of the few heroes who is actually respected by everyone in the Marvel universe, so having the people treat him the way they treat the X-Men or Spider-Man would be interesting, if not completely new.

    Apart from that I'd like to see the superhero community dealing with the shame of knowing they screwed up so badly, fought each other so much, that a lot of people actually preferred life under HYDRA-Cap. That's one of the points that was made in "The Oath," and it seems like it would be a good way to launch the whole "heroes acting like heroes again!" theme they've been teasing for a year now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    And don't forget backlash against the superhero community as a whole from the people who actually liked having the Secret Empire/HYDRA in charge or at least preferred it to "out-of-touch superhuman elitists pretending to protect us when they never gave a damn about us in the first place."
    Let's not forget that on the opposite end of the spectrum will be those who will hate and distrust the superhero community for having allowed this to happen in the first place. After all if possibly the most iconic symbol of freedom among the heroes could do something so terrible, how can they believe any of them are on the level?

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    I want it to end with Nick Spencer leaving the Captain America books with an actual A lister taking over.

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    How I want it to end: I want it to be the new Dark Reign and last a long time until the Heroes win, Cap gets his old personality back and afterwards we get some great stories about picking up the pieces.

    How I expect it to end: The event ends this summer and everything else i wrote above still applies.
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    I want Steve Rogers to be restored to normal, and then to say, "Wait, I was working with Hydra? But they're Nazis!"

    And then maybe someone's like, "Well, actually, they're an ancient organization, it's just that one branch worked with the Nazis." And Steve's like, "Son, I've spent most of my adult life fighting Nazis. I know Nazis. Hydra are Nazis."

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    As long as we get the REAL Steve Rogers Back and his History Restored to Originally then I will be Happy, that is Greatly what I Want!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiamatty View Post
    I want Steve Rogers to be restored to normal, and then to say, "Wait, I was working with Hydra? But they're Nazis!"

    And then maybe someone's like, "Well, actually, they're an ancient organization, it's just that one branch worked with the Nazis." And Steve's like, "Son, I've spent most of my adult life fighting Nazis. I know Nazis. Hydra are Nazis."





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    Any ending that involves Steve dead or permanently disgraced is a betrayal of the character and the worst ending they could do, this is not a Darth Vader type fall from grace or pro wrestling heel turn, this was a good man turned against his will into a monster.

    Steve Should regain his self and be the one to deal the deathblow to Hydra, that is the only ending there can be, not saying that the ending they'll do, but any other ending will be shitting the proverbial bed imo, only popular with the hardcore Cap-haters.

    I actually wouldn't mind a Superman 3 type deal where actual Steve is separated from from Captain Hydra, and Steve whips his ass.

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