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    Default How long before marvel tells us they have fantastic four rights back?

    OK we have two x-men shows and now Deadpool yet marvel owns all x-men tv rights so what did fox trade marvel for those rights? If you saw the stan lee scene in gotg 2 we know what they traded as fox owned characters show up.

    So how long before marvel lets us know they got fantastic four back? Marvel has that "mystery" movie in the works and fox just said they are planning another FF movie! The question is is this a Spider-Man type deal or did they just outright get the rights back?

    What do you think?

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    Fox needs to give up FF already and we need Galactus and Silver Surfer in Guardians 3

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    It always astonishes me that nobody has been able to make a good FF movie. All it takes is the right writer and director. It shouldn't be that hard.

    But the title has the stink of failure on it and it will probably be a few more years before that wears off, and somebody can try again. I'm not sure it would be possible to fit them into the mutant-less MCU, though. I guess they could be Inhumans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewCrossett View Post
    It always astonishes me that nobody has been able to make a good FF movie. All it takes is the right writer and director. It shouldn't be that hard.

    But the title has the stink of failure on it and it will probably be a few more years before that wears off, and somebody can try again. I'm not sure it would be possible to fit them into the mutant-less MCU, though. I guess they could be Inhumans.
    Unless your dying for franklin to show up you dont need mutants or inhumans. They had an accident give them powers. Same as Hulk and Spiderman except in space. Honestly id be more excited about Dr Doom,Galactus,and Silver Surfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    Unless your dying for franklin to show up you dont need mutants or inhumans. They had an accident give them powers. Same as Hulk and Spiderman except in space. Honestly id be more excited about Dr Doom,Galactus,and Silver Surfer.
    This has been my impression for some time. Fans want the three you mentioned more than the F4 themselves.

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    Marvel is co-producing the X-Men shows so I doubt they gave up the TV rights. They are using them as a bargaining chip to get what they want out of them.

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    It always astonishes me that nobody has been able to make a good FF movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Marvel is co-producing the X-Men shows so I doubt they gave up the TV rights. They are using them as a bargaining chip to get what they want out of them.
    I doubt they get any real creative control so unless they are getting a bigger stake then the 5% of the profits (or.whatever small number it is they get from the movies). They have to be getting something.


    Xmen have always been one of marvels best sellers well in the last 3 decades atleast. So they probaly have way more interest in the X movies and shows being good then the F4 which wasnt a big seller in the modern age.

    After deadpool came out his merchandise sold like crazy. They should give fox complete controll of xmen. Movies,tv,and tie in merchandise. Then Fox give them everything not X related back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    *snip*
    That doesn't count, it just further adds to the mystery of why they can't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    I doubt they get any real creative control so unless they are getting a bigger stake then the 5% of the profits (or.whatever small number it is they get from the movies). They have to be getting something.


    Xmen have always been one of marvels best sellers well in the last 3 decades atleast. So they probaly have way more interest in the X movies and shows being good then the F4 which wasnt a big seller in the modern age.

    After deadpool came out his merchandise sold like crazy. They should give fox complete controll of xmen. Movies,tv,and tie in merchandise. Then Fox give them everything not X related back
    Fox can't move forward with the X-Men on TV without Marvel. They are ones that need to play ball. Fox realizes they'll need more than Deadpool. Main X-Men film series isn't drawing like it use to and Jackman retired as Logan. They need to expand the property to keep it going. That can't happen without Marvel's cooperation.

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    And just like that marvel tells us about that gogt 2 cameo. It's shared like quicksilver!

    http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/05/...s-kevin-feige/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    OK we have two x-men shows and now Deadpool yet marvel owns all x-men tv rights so what did fox trade marvel for those rights? If you saw the stan lee scene in gotg 2 we know what they traded as fox owned characters show up.

    So how long before marvel lets us know they got fantastic four back? Marvel has that "mystery" movie in the works and fox just said they are planning another FF movie! The question is is this a Spider-Man type deal or did they just outright get the rights back?

    What do you think?
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    Civil War was a game changer on who can be in who's movie, and in the rumor mill and it is really a rumor I have heard no real confirmation but their is some negotiation concerning this between Disney and Fox..
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    The ship has sailed as far as a "Grand Unified Marvel Cinematic Universe," though, unless they reboot the whole thing (which they will eventually). Even if all the studios could sit down and agree to a wealth sharing plan to benefit all. There's no way at this point you could justify the Avengers and the X-Men existing in the same continuity. (There would be some wiggle room with the F4.)

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    I think Fox's negotiating power has really decreased with the commercial success of GotG. Marvel needed Fantastic Four as a vehicle to expand their universe in the cosmic scale. With Guardians, the window for that need is decreasing by the day. The situation with Spider-Man was a bit different in that the character was a proven money-maker (hence Sony had leverage). F4 as it is now is a known lemon. Marvel would find it useful, but not necessary, in getting that property back to move their universe forward.

    Conversely, this might actually make it more difficult for Marvel to get the rights back, as Fox will not have anything significant to gain / get any big concessions from Marvel for the rights (unlike Spider Man).
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