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    Question Why is the Clone Wars TV show good?

    So Iím more than a little frustrated with the Clone Wars TV show as I canít seem to understand the appeal of it. I keep trying to enjoy the series for what it is but I canít seem to continue watching for long and for something that eats up a lot of time within the new canon I should have some familiarity with it right?
    Let me just get this out of the way; I donít like Ahsoka Tano. I genuinely donít and that extends farther than just the first few seasons. I canít seem to get invested with her and Anakin probably because I know it has no bearing on the movies. In the overall plot, Ahsoka doesnít matter. While thatís not to say I canít enjoy tertiary characters (I was fine with the original Starkiller so why is Ahsoka a problem?) I donít get the appeal and I donít know Ahsokaís personality. As far as I can tell she is the plucky sidekick who has an arc every so often but more of a story arc as opposed to character arc (no I havenít seen her walk away from the jedi yet but something that important and so late should never come last).
    Also the show makes a lot of people seem inept like when Cad Bane is running through a Republic ship hangar (happens to be able to pilot a republic ship) and nobody stops him yíknow, like all those clones with guns. That army thatís standing right there, or the jedi still aboard. Even at points when they know there is sith and or separatist activity on Mustafar and Anakin never thinks that maybe, just maybe that this refinery world should be looked into by the Republic or inform the Jedi this happened, and if he did clearly did nothing about it. The clones donít even get off free as within a few episodes I watched recently with Commander Cody ordering his troops to run into a hail of blaster fire.., and they do. Itís only for the plot armor that these guys survive as a plan that dumb is always going to kill troops. While I can't remember the episode, the Republic canít land troops due to an Ion cannon. Why canít they land somewhere else and ride up to them in the ship out of the cannonís range or bring one of those giant tanks with them? Sure they have hostages but whatís really stopping them from going up to the encampment with the turbo tank and firing on the troops then? Why risk trooperís lives on foot when everyone is safe in a tank out of harmís way, and can take out the enemy with minimal risk?
    I just donít get the appeal of the show and why people approach me like the stereotypical Brony telling me ďyou didnít give the show a chanceĒ. Iíve rewatched up into the final season a few times now. Iím sorry I donít get it. So I ask the good citizens of this Star Wars forum to answer my question-
    ďWhy is Star Wars: The Clone Wars, good?
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    If these are things that bother you, how on earth did you ever make it through the movies?

    The point (well, one of the points) of Ahsoka is that she is a far better reason for why Anakin lost faith in the Jedi order and fell to the Dark Side than anything in the actual prequels.
    Also, her walking away wasn't supposed to come last. Disney bought the property and ended it prematurely.

    And if you need to land in, say, Brussels, which is well defended by an Ion cannon, and you are pressed for time, you can't land in Beijing instead and make your way back overland.

    The clones with plot armour, well, almost all of the named clones in the series spoilers:
    get killed off by the end of the series.
    end of spoilers And they're super soldier characters with borderline superhuman stats. Nobody complains when Batman does stuff like that.
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    The show's first two seasons are a bit iffy, but things get better in the third season IMO. The somewhat goofy Jedi shoulder armor (Yeah, I know it's in part meant to evoke Vader) is dropped, and the characters more closely resemble their movie counterparts. It also has one of the more interesting storylines-The "Mortis" arc which saw the return of Pernilla August and Liam Neeson, raised some interesting questions about the nature of the force and had Anakin become Darth Vader a bit earlier(!) although it's all solved via a reset button of sorts...
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    It's so well appreciated cause it literally saved the prequel era from being an absolute waste of time.

    One word : development.

    It developed Anakin and Obi-wan friendship, it gave A LOT of character growth to Anakin and hell, they even also made episodes about the separatists, how that confederation worked, the people behind, what were their positions and opinions which i found to be very interesting.

    Plus a lot of side characters were brought on the table. Very cool characters for many of them.

    That show made the prequels era so much richer.

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    One of the best reasons why it is good.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    One of the best reasons why it is good.......

    spoilers:
    The return of Darth Maul
    end of spoilers
    I was sceptical about that, but yeah. The final confrontation with Palpatine was better and more epic than anything Lucas ever did with either character in the movies.
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    The movie, Season 1, and parts of Season 2 are quite a slog to get through, but at a certain point things do look up and change for the better, with characters and aspects getting the focus that the prequel movies either couldn't or wouldn't do, and giving the characters made for the show a lot of development. Ahsoka is definitely one of the best examples of that, starting out as Anakin-Lite but becoming her own character and woman as the show progresses and by the end of it.
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    It's just not very good imo, and the Clone Wars era is my favorite in Star Wars. There's a nice chunk of really good episodes, but the majority of it really is just violence for violence's sake (which is a big reason why "fans" prefer it to the prequel films). If you want real depth from that era, I would suggest a few of the novels and Republic/Clone Wars comic books (anything from John Ostrander is gold).

    Rebels is even worse, but I'll always be grateful for the brief duel between Obi-Wan and Maul on Tatooine. It was pretty much perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceWayneJr. View Post
    but the majority of it really is just violence for violence's sake (which is a big reason why "fans" prefer it to the prequel films)
    It is very action oriented true enough and the droids do provide an endless flow of targets for the jedis to destroy without any moral issues, but i never felt watching this stuff that the violence depicted was overly gratuitous.

    Now Rebels i agree a bit more with you.

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    Without the clones wars series the Anakin backstory would had been ruined IMO the prequel films portrayed him as a whiny brat and I never bought his "friendship" with Obi-Wan all they did were fight 90% of the time while telling use about these adventures they had and friendship they built and talked behind each other backs as soon as one left the room. It was the clone wars TV show that makes me believe when sir Alec Guinness said "And he was a good friend".
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    I'd say it's better to judge the show on an arc-to-arc basis; TCW is almost insanely jittery in tone, quality, and imagination. There's a world of difference between the Carnage Of Krell arc (aka, Star Wars does 'Nam) and the Padawan arc (aw, look at the widdle Jedi students!) or between the Mandalorian Academy arc (aka, don't mess with the Duchess's tea!) and the stand alone A Friend in Need (aka, Seriously, the Death Watch are EVIL!).

    I personally love the episodes that focus on the Clones, the Mandos, or on thriller style stories. Those are arguably better than some of the movies. But others are just uninteresting and boring to me.
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