Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 31 to 38 of 38
  1. #31
    Incredible Member Darkseid Is's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    694

    Default

    I'm not the biggest expert on things that happen outside of the movies but I did read a few things and I think Tarkin had some sort of importance with the Death Star like it was his idea to create it or he ran it. Something like that I'm guessing.

  2. #32
    Astonishing Member Hiromi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    3,707

    Default

    It wasn't his idea, but he was the Moff and later Grand Moff in charge of the sector it was being built in and was directly appointed by the Emperor himself to oversee it, as I said earlier in the thread Vader at the point answered directly to the Emperor, but so the same was true for Tarkin, in a way they had similar ranks just in different ways, and since the Death Star was Tarkin's personal project appointed by the Emperor himself even Vader had to respect it.

  3. #33
    Incredible Member Darkseid Is's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Posts
    694

    Default

    Tarkin always interested me a lot. He's one of my favorite characters in Star Wars that aren't named Luke, Leia, Han or Vader.

  4. #34
    Mighty Member ChrisIII's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,279

    Default

    The original EU had him come up with the idea for it (although it was also partially credited to Sienar, creator of the TIE fighter)-and that it took a much shorter time to build, and actually had a partially working prototype version (mainly the frame and the laser). However, AOTC and ROTS largely overrode that continuity by making it a Seperatist weapon that was kind of taken over and completed by the Empire.

    Krennic's and Erso from Rogue One were technically part of Tarkin's initiative (An Imperial think tank), but apparentally Krennic did most of the "hands on" work for the project before Tarkin took over.
    chrism227.wordpress.com Info and opinions on a variety of interests.

    https://twitter.com/chrisprtsmouth

  5. #35
    Astonishing Member WebLurker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    2,054

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    The original EU had him come up with the idea for it (although it was also partially credited to Sienar, creator of the TIE fighter)-and that it took a much shorter time to build, and actually had a partially working prototype version (mainly the frame and the laser). However, AOTC and ROTS largely overrode that continuity by making it a Seperatist weapon that was kind of taken over and completed by the Empire.
    The Death Star's history has been revised and retconned a lot over the years. The original idea was that Tarkin invented it -- or at least came up with the idea and supervised the project; The Legends Jedi Academy Trilogy books showed his construction site, complete with an unfinished prototype with a working laser. Then the Rogue Planet novel retconned that Tarkin stole the idea from Sienar (who had lost interest in it), claiming to Palpatine that it was his idea. The AOTC reveal was retconned with Legends by having Palpatine pass on the plans to the Geonosisians, who started it during the Clone Wars, then it fell into Imperial hands and was finished by the Empire (and the half a dozen other designers and inventors that Legends had claimed were the brainchild or major inventors behind it). The Jedi Academy prototype was retconned by the Essential Atlas as a testbed for the laser (since ROTS established that the ANH Death Star was the first one started).

    So, by the end of Legends, the Death Star's history was almost as messy as the story of how the Rebels stole the plans (basically for the latter, there were multiple mutually contradictory stories that were forced together with the retcon that it took multiple missions to steal every singe piece of the plans). The reboot and Rogue One simplified the messes into one account.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    Krennic's and Erso from Rogue One were technically part of Tarkin's initiative (An Imperial think tank), but apparentally Krennic did most of the "hands on" work for the project before Tarkin took over.
    Well, Tarkin was the overall supervisor of the station project; Krennic was in charge of the superlaser's construction.

  6. #36
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    40

    Default

    Didn't Vader oppose the idea of the Death Star? I always looked at it like some way of Palpatine diminishing Vader's power and influence; kind of like a punishment or test for Vader to deal with. Vader was still Palpatine's only real competition and to place him in a leadership position over the galaxy's supposed best deterrent seemed kind of out of balance with how the Sith Lord would operate.

    EDIT: This guy came up with a different answer. Basically he said Vader was not attached to the military directly, Tarkin ran the DeathStar and basically Vader would come in an out of interaction with the military based off the needs of the Emperor:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3odFDljJhqM
    Last edited by Professional; 09-15-2017 at 09:48 PM.

  7. #37
    Mighty Member ChrisIII's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,279

    Default

    Yeah, in both Rogue One and ANH he seemed mostly unimpressed, even with Jedha's destruction (Mostly because of they having to make a cover story for the senate).

    I'd say there's plenty of evidence in the films that Vader wanted to overthrow Palpatine and rule in his stead with Padme (and then Luke and possibly Leia) by his side-of course he did eventually, but only at the cost of his own life (In ROTJ). It'd be interesting what a Vader-run Empire would've been like.
    chrism227.wordpress.com Info and opinions on a variety of interests.

    https://twitter.com/chrisprtsmouth

  8. #38
    Astonishing Member WebLurker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    2,054

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Professional View Post
    Didn't Vader oppose the idea of the Death Star? I always looked at it like some way of Palpatine diminishing Vader's power and influence; kind of like a punishment or test for Vader to deal with. Vader was still Palpatine's only real competition and to place him in a leadership position over the galaxy's supposed best deterrent seemed kind of out of balance with how the Sith Lord would operate.
    Not sure if that's been addressed one way or another for Vader. I know some sources have indicated that some of the navy officers didn't like the Death Star. For example, in the canon Darth Vader series, Grand General Tagge expressed the opinion that the Death Star had been a waste of resources that could've been used to build capital ships and other smaller-scale military equipment that could've been had more flexible applications (the guy basically worshiped at the altar of TV Tropes' "Boring But Practical" trope).

    Quote Originally Posted by Professional View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Professional View Post
    EDIT: This guy came up with a different answer. Basically he said Vader was not attached to the military directly, Tarkin ran the DeathStar and basically Vader would come in an out of interaction with the military based off the needs of the Emperor:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3odFDljJhqM
    Oh, Star Wars Explained. Love that guy's stuff.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •