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    Default How good is the show compared to the comic? Arrow & Flash

    Never having read much Flash until New 52, and never having read a single comic with Green Arrow in it, but watching both shows, I wonder how good the comics were compared to these shows? I have started collecting the Geoff Johns Flash books, but I haven't read them yet, and I still have no Green Arrow. I do however very much enjoy the two shows. What have you gotten out of them? The shows, the comics...

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    I don't watch the shows.
    But I do know this: unless you're talking about the comic books that specifically were based on the TV show, they aren't the same thing, so I'm not sure if you can accurately compare the two.
    The TV shows took characters from the comic books and used them as the basis / inspiration for the TV shows, but they definitely don't follow EVERYTHING as it happened in the comic book runs.

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    Comic Ollie is a hardcore leftie who would show up at Occupy Wallstreet or a Bernie Sanders rally.

    Arrowverse Ollie is mayor and has a politically undefined (and therefore inoffensive to any viewers on either side) generic make-things-better agenda.

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    I enjoy both the shows, although Flash this season was a little rough. But the comics are completely different. And they're so many more so it's hard to say that yes, the comics are better than the shows. There have been plenty of times where the books sink much lower than the shows because for so much of their histories, comics were disposable media. But on many occasions the books are so much better. They reach such higher peaks, mainly due to the histories.

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    My uncle had a huge comic collection and I started reading Mike Grell's run on Green Arrow....which if you have not read it is fantastic and that really got me into that character. Seasons 1 & 2 of Arrow pull a lot from those stories, so naturally I really enjoyed those seasons. Then season 3 started making Ollie into Batman and then season 4 was unwatchable.

    The Flash has always been one of my favorite heroes, largely due to Mark Waid's magical run in the 90s-00s. I also grew up with John Wesley Shipp's live action Flash show as well. So I have always enjoyed Barry AND Wally. I LOVE the current tv show and look forward to it every week.

    In regards to the New 52, it was complete and total garbage in every way and destroyed so much history and characters. I stopped buying DC comics during that time and am thankful for the rebirth.

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    Both are great shows.

    Legends of Tomorrow is easily my favorite, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    Comic Ollie is a hardcore leftie who would show up at Occupy Wallstreet or a Bernie Sanders rally.

    Arrowverse Ollie is mayor and has a politically undefined (and therefore inoffensive to any viewers on either side) generic make-things-better agenda.
    He's basically Batman lite (other than all the killing he does.) And I'm totally down with them incorporating some Bat-stuff to GA for the show.

    Been very impressed by CWs handling of DC characters.
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    I don't buy the new GREEN ARROW comics, but in the past I don't think Ollie was ever an extreme lefty. He was extreme, yes, but his politics were all over the place. Under O'Neil, Ollie espoused some weird politics often arguing against what would be leftist political positions. With Elliot Maggin, he was more of a moderate Democrat. But under Mike Grell--or Chuck Dixon--he seemed like a Libertarian.

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    I got socialist vibes sometimes from Ollie but I don't know :P. I always thought liberals were in the middle and left leaning meant you were more inclined to socialism.

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    "A billionaire turned communist." - Batman, as written by Frank Miller

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    With Oliver it definitely depends on the writer and their political views. Oliver has always been left leaning and one to stand up for the little forgotten guy, but it wasn't until recently (last 10 years or so), that he became "ultra liberal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    Comic Ollie is a hardcore leftie who would show up at Occupy Wallstreet or a Bernie Sanders rally.

    Arrowverse Ollie is mayor . . .
    Something that happened in the comic books, too, many years ago (well before the New52).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graphic Autist View Post
    "A billionaire turned communist." - Batman, as written by Frank Miller
    More like

    "A goddamn billionaire turned goddamn communist." -Batman, as written by Frank Miller

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    Arrow is a Batman show masquerading as a Green Arrow show. It's fun a show, but that's the harsh truth of what it is doing (to circumvent diluting Batman's film franchise). You really don't get comic book Green Arrow in that show. Green Arrow was sold out for Batman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Arrow is a Batman show masquerading as a Green Arrow show. It's fun a show, but that's the harsh true of what it is doing (to circumvent diluting Batman's film franchise). You really don't get comic book Green Arrow in that show. Green Arrow was sold out for Batman.
    Of course, many a Green Arrow comic has been a Batman comic masquerading as a Green Arrow comic too.

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