Vulture vs Rhino

[Stigmazilla]

Film versions

[choptop]

didn't Rhino have missile launchers or machine guns or sumthing? if so he wins.

[InvincibleDom]

didn't Rhino have missile launchers or machine guns or sumthing? if so he wins.

This. That Rhino suit was low key stacked.

[Jonathan]

didn't Rhino have missile launchers or machine guns or sumthing? if so he wins.

He had both.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Vulture had a Chitauri-based rifle that was capable of slicing the Staten Island Ferry in half lengthwise when it went full out, for what it's worth.

[choptop]

He had both.

ok so machine guns missiles armor that can take hits from spiderman super strength i assume yup Vulture dies in a stomp.

Vulture had a Chitauri-based rifle that was capable of slicing the Staten Island Ferry in half lengthwise when it went full out, for what it's worth.

thats not Standard Equipment tho even if he did have it im sure Rhino still wins.

[Twickster]

ok so machine guns missiles armor that can take hits from spiderman super strength i assume yup Vulture dies in a stomp.



thats not Standard Equipment tho even if he did have it im sure Rhino still wins.

I agree that the chitauri rifle is not standard equipment and Vulture shouldn't have it. I don't agree that with it, Rhino should win anyway. At the end of the day, Rhino's layout is featless, while we know that chitauri weapon when overloaded can cut a ferry in half. Also, basic maneuverability edge for Vulture, provided he's got a range weapon.

W/o Vulture having a range weapon, Rhino wins 100%. Basically, Vulture's suit was never really conceived as a "weapon" so much as "construction equipment". It was durable, diddn't have any range weapons, and simply used its wings and talons to lift and carry things around. Throughout the film, Vulture was basically fighting Spider-Man with a futuristic backhoe.

[Lord Falcon]

Are we all forgetting that Vulture's wings were smashing through thick concrete pillars with no real sign of damage?

[choptop]

I agree that the chitauri rifle is not standard equipment and Vulture shouldn't have it. I don't agree that with it, Rhino should win anyway. At the end of the day, Rhino's layout is featless, while we know that chitauri weapon when overloaded can cut a ferry in half. Also, basic maneuverability edge for Vulture, provided he's got a range weapon.

im saying he wins with it assuming Rhino is approaching spiderman LV strength and durability all so i think Rhino can shoot him down befor Vulture can fire at him.

[KJS]

I would've loved to have seen more of that Rhino...

[InvincibleDom]

Vulture had a Chitauri-based rifle that was capable of slicing the Staten Island Ferry in half lengthwise when it went full out, for what it's worth.

This is a good point. Back to square one for me. lol. And just like comment above, the suit deserved at least 5 more minutes of fight instead of the 15 minutes of Spiderman pout time we got preceding it. Waste of awesome definitely.

Side Note: Someone said Featless for Rhino. So here no extrapolation is allowed? Like if we didnt see it, we can't make an educated guess on what it might be able to do?

[Sharpandpointies]

Side Note: Someone said Featless for Rhino. So here no extrapolation is allowed? Like if we didnt see it, we can't make an educated guess on what it might be able to do?

Pretty much.

There's a little leeway, based on circumstances (EVERYTHING on Rumbles should really be looked at situation by situation, in my opinion), but the board operates on feats. We go with what is shown, for the most part. Some extrapolation can be done - for example, if a character has one single appearance where he fights against Shang Chi, and Shang Chi is forced to go all out, and still is getting wrecked, there's some leeway to say 'well, maybe that character is as fast as Shang seeing as we don't see anything to contradict it.'

Otherwise, feats feats feats. High-end feats consistent with the character's presentation.

[InvincibleDom]

Pretty much.

There's a little leeway, based on circumstances (EVERYTHING on Rumbles should really be looked at situation by situation, in my opinion), but the board operates on feats. We go with what is shown, for the most part. Some extrapolation can be done - for example, if a character has one single appearance where he fights against Shang Chi, and Shang Chi is forced to go all out, and still is getting wrecked, there's some leeway to say 'well, maybe that character is as fast as Shang seeing as we don't see anything to contradict it.'

Otherwise, feats feats feats. High-end feats consistent with the character's presentation.

Thanks for letting me know early, super helpful. I will limit my amount of contribution to this portion of the forums accordingly.

[Powerboy]

I agree that the chitauri rifle is not standard equipment and Vulture shouldn't have it. I don't agree that with it, Rhino should win anyway. At the end of the day, Rhino's layout is featless, while we know that chitauri weapon when overloaded can cut a ferry in half. Also, basic maneuverability edge for Vulture, provided he's got a range weapon.

W/o Vulture having a range weapon, Rhino wins 100%. Basically, Vulture's suit was never really conceived as a "weapon" so much as "construction equipment". It was durable, diddn't have any range weapons, and simply used its wings and talons to lift and carry things around. Throughout the film, Vulture was basically fighting Spider-Man with a futuristic backhoe.

I agree with that. We have no idea how accurate Rhino was with those weapons as we never see him use them. He could be deadly accurate or he could be in the typical action movie category where the villain couldn't hit a barn with a machine gun if he was inside the barn. We also have little idea of Rhino's durability while the Vulture has feats of durability and attack.

It's like saying I get an auto-win against the Vulture because I have a missile launcher and I'm in armor. Why is this featless guy getting to ignore the rules?

[Powerboy]

This is a good point. Back to square one for me. lol. And just like comment above, the suit deserved at least 5 more minutes of fight instead of the 15 minutes of Spiderman pout time we got preceding it. Waste of awesome definitely.

Side Note: Someone said Featless for Rhino. So here no extrapolation is allowed? Like if we didnt see it, we can't make an educated guess on what it might be able to do?

I'm tempted to be sarcastic and say they should have just had Peter shrug his shoulders after Gwen died, said, "Well, one down. More fish in the say. Where's MJ?" and then spend ten minutes fighting the Rhino.

Actually, I thought what Peter went through after the death of his loved one and ending it on a high dramatic moment was a perfect dramatic ending but so many people are, "Oh, why didn't they show the whole fight" not just here but generally as if the dramatic aspect is absolutely meaningless to them. To me, that's akin to watching the end of Rocky 3 and going, "Hey, how come they just show the first punch between Rocky and Apollo and don't do the whole fight?" Aside from that, who knows what we would have seen had they actually finished the Spider-Man series with a third one. The start of the Rhino fight may have been meant as a cliffhanger.