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    Default Vision (MCU) Vs Super Johnny Storm (Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer)

    Paul Bettany's Vision goes up against Chris Evans' Johnny Storm when he had all of the Fantastic 4's powers.

    Let's assume Johnny can use all four powers to the same degree that his teammates displayed.

    How goes it?

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    Human Torch via Supernova

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    Is Vision allowed to phase through Johnny and kill him?

    'Cause...yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Star_Jammer View Post
    Is Vision allowed to phase through Johnny and kill him?

    'Cause...yeah.
    Would that work given how flexible he is with Reed's powers? He's so elastic that it could prove difficult to manage that i.e. to get a grip of anything inside Johnny's body. And could he get through Sue's shields?
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    He can phase through any part of Johnny's body and do enough damage to seriously debilitate him (stretched arm? Phase through and chop it off). Johnny either has to touch Vision (heh), or burn him. Vibranium is pretty durable, though.

    And we have no precedent to go on with Sue's shields, except that Silver Surfer phased through them.
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    Wasn't he emitting heat comparable to levels of a star?

    Vision should get melted here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritualcramp View Post
    Wasn't he emitting heat comparable to levels of a star?

    Vision should get melted here
    Couldn't he just go intangible to avoid that?

    I figured this might actually make for a strange but interesting tie, whereby there are lots of powers involved, but lots of ways to avoid being hurt by them.

    It might take some kind of slip-up or being coaxed into doing something silly to finish this one - if indeed it can have a definitive finish at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritualcramp View Post
    Wasn't he emitting heat comparable to levels of a star?

    Vision should get melted here
    The Tim Story Fantastic Four movies were rife with narrative hyperbole and flatout observed junk science(oh no Johnny's so hot he'll set the atmosphere on fire!)

    If Johnny was putting out star level energy he'd be obliterating everything in the vicinity and beyond around him, he wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    The Tim Story Fantastic Four movies were rife with narrative hyperbole and flatout observed junk science(oh no Johnny's so hot he'll set the atmosphere on fire!)

    If Johnny was putting out star level energy he'd be obliterating everything in the vicinity and beyond around him, he wasn't.
    Not to mention it took him a few moments to build up to his highest level.

    Is Vision expected to just stand back and watch? Lol
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